RMweb Premium Downer Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2014 A new Middleton Press album of pics and informative captions. I suppose you have to be interested in the area/line, but if you are this is great Lots of photos of Stratford, Temple MiIls, Lea Bridge, Coppermill Junction, etc etc. Oh for an rtr N7 and Class 125 dmu! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks! I devour anything about Stratford and it's surroundings... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Trevellan Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2014 I shall seek this book with keen anticipation as it covers a swathe of my former stamping grounds. Our Rolls-Royce DMUs were designed to run on EMU timings, hence the extra grunt, and I had many a lively trip in them. It was a sad day when we lost them to the Great Northern after the Lea Valley electrification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 A copy has been duly ordered. Thanks for the scoop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I remember the days when the normal service on the Cambridge (Kings Lynn) to Liverpool Street line was an EE3 with 9x mk1 coaches, centre one being a Buffet car. Oh so boring (well it was then!). Then one day I arrived back at Liverpool Street to catch the said train, an express, probably Bishops Stortford/Audley/End/Cambridge etc, only to find there was another booked departure 5 minutes before it, terminating at Cambridge. Not sure if it stopped anywhere else en route. So I thought I'd take it, it turned out to be a 125 dmu, busy with commuters, but I got a seat up the front. Did that thing motor to keep ahead of the 37! I believe this was a single summer timetable only, Fridays Only extra. It was rare to see a 125 at Cambridge. Happy days. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I shall seek this book with keen anticipation as it covers a swathe of my former stamping grounds. Our Rolls-Royce DMUs were designed to run on EMU timings, hence the extra grunt, and I had many a lively trip in them. It was a sad day when we lost them to the Great Northern after the Lea Valley electrification. Remember travelling on them when commuting on GN suburban services for a while, rather a long time ago now. If you could sit at the front and if the driver hadn't pulled down the window blinds behind his seat, it was interesting to see the different controls for the hydraulic transmission with the little vertical levers rather than the normal dmu gear selector. One incident that sticks in my mind: at a stop at Finsbury Park on a down service, a lot of people got on to the already crowded carriage. The slam doors in the middle of the unit wouldn't shut. Am exasperated porter hustled some people off and the doors could then be shut. The weight of the excess passengers had bowed the floor of the unit downwards distorting the door frames..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Started my train-spotting days on Stratford station way back when in the last days of steam - and the continual announcements 'the next train to arrive at platform 8 will call at---' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 ... Maryland, Forest Gate, Manor Park, Ilford, Seven Kings, Goodmayes, Chadwell Heath, Romford, Gidea Park, Harold Wood, Brentwood, Shenfield ... Yes, those announcements still run and anyone who has spent time within earshot of Platform 8 can reel them off virtually in their sleep! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60526 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Used to train spot down Ponders End and Brimsdown, can just remember coal traffic coming into the PE gas works. Late 60's early 70's, friday evening used to be good. Around 6:30 there was a down Kings Lynn which usually had a Tinsley 37, but occassionally an odd Brush 2 D58xx might turn up or even an odd 47. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The timing of that "down Kings Lynn" is suspiciously close to one we had at Cambridge, though it was an UP train from Whitemoor to London? Is that what you meant by any chance? We spotters used to call it "the Tinsley" as it was hauled by a Tinsley loco. Though we had our own GE D58xx, we always associated the D58xx series with the Sheffield ara, always looking for a cop with this one! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2014 ... Maryland, Forest Gate, Manor Park, Ilford, Seven Kings, Goodmayes, Chadwell Heath, Romford, Gidea Park, Harold Wood, Brentwood, Shenfield ... Yes, those announcements still run and anyone who has spent time within earshot of Platform 8 can reel them off virtually in their sleep! On the way to Cheshunt? I think you were on the wrong platform Now Turkey Street, there's a name for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60526 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The timing of that "down Kings Lynn" is suspiciously close to one we had at Cambridge, though it was an UP train from Whitemoor to London? Is that what you meant by any chance? We spotters used to call it "the Tinsley" as it was hauled by a Tinsley loco. Though we had our own GE D58xx, we always associated the D58xx series with the Sheffield ara, always looking for a cop with this one! Stewart Stewart, it was certainly a down train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The book arrived today. Had a nose through it and I have to say it looks very good indeed. Nice photo variety too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 On the way to Cheshunt? I think you were on the wrong platform Now Turkey Street, there's a name for you Merely responding to bike2steam's "spotting" reference to platform 8 - which serves stopping trains to Gidea Park, Shenfield, Southend Victoria and sometimes Southminster and Shoeburyness. I'm fully aware that it is not the platform for Lea Valley services! Down Mudchute with you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2014 Merely responding to bike2steam's "spotting" reference to platform 8 - which serves stopping trains to Gidea Park, Shenfield, Southend Victoria and sometimes Southminster and Shoeburyness. I'm fully aware that it is not the platform for Lea Valley services! Down Mudchute with you! I guessed you had 'knowledge' of the GE. Certainly an interesting urban network. I remember as a youth finding the EMU services somewhat enchanting, however my mates who came along with me to spy 37s thought I was deranged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Great shot of D8407 out on the road in GFYE on limestone hoppers. Pictures of 16's working in 1967 are rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I guessed you had 'knowledge' of the GE. Certainly an interesting urban network. I remember as a youth finding the EMU services somewhat enchanting, however my mates who came along with me to spy 37s thought I was deranged Mates tell you what others are too polite to say! I never really appreciated the early EMUs until they'd all but gone. Apart from the 302 sets out of Fenchurch Street, I think I had 100% spotting records for the Eastern Region EMUs, but sadly took very few photographs of them until it was too late. For some reason I'm reminded of a preserved 306 set running specials on the Braintree branch. With their highly sprung (horsehair?) seats and branch-line standards of track laying, the occupants of the seats at the end of the carriage were merrily bouncing up and down in unison in what would have made a good advert for the Natural Law party! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted February 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2014 ... don't forget the smell either. mk1 EMUs always had an aroma of sweet and dusty mould. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 ...that was because of the bodies underneath those large seats.........usually deposited at Ilford or Southend. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Always surprised that I have never ever seen a layout of the Cheshunt to Cambridge section of the line. I can only ever recall seeing one 125 at Cambridge – it made the local papers due to the rarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Lambton58 Posted February 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks for flagging up this book. Definitely one to look out for - I grew up in Cheshunt, and used it and Theobalds Grove a lot. Theobalds Grove was the choice if wanted the underground ( usually at Seven Sisters). Cheshunt was the station if I wanted to go to Liverpool Street. Funny how places like London Fields, Cambridge Heath and Bethnal Green always sounded nicer than they looked, especially in late 70s! Ralph Lambton58 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Talking of Bethnal Green does Waterloo Buildings still exist? A large "flat" complex to the north side of the main GER lines? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I did a lot of spotting all over this area in the fifties and early sixties,lots of freight and variety on trains many of the stations were slowly falling to pieces and in need of tlc.The line through Ponders End produced a variety of freight to watch and then hop a train to Stratford bunk the shed (until thrown out ) used to catch the 121 bus from Chingford to Ponders End once rode on a Guy Arab with wooden slatted seats very uncomfortable.When I lived in Newbury Park used to see freight from Chigwell, went past the back of my home on the way to Ilford , change from Central Line tube.Stratford seemed a very spread out station with trains going in all directions the low level lines provided an interesting journey through to the docks.The emu,s out to Shenfield were lovely things to ride on and were fast .My father used to take me to Goodmayes to watch the marshalling yard always seemed to be busy with all tracks full.When our branch was being electrified we had the Rolls Royce powered dmu s running Chingford to Wood Street most Sundays great to sit up front and watch the view .Did not like the 304,s much preferred an N7 with Quad Arts on the back,the electrics made Liverpool Street a bit dull on the surburban side but at least a few interesting sights on the west side.Was not Turkey St closed for a long time until the wires went up? Train watching was a very good hobby to pursue in all of this part of the world.A4,s at Wood Green ,WD ,s out to Cheshunt,Brits on the GE to Norwich plus the N7,s all in all geat fun in the company of good friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Googling around this I found the Cheshunt Railway, an early horse-drawn monorail. Is there any mention of this in the book? Apparently the guy who built the Wuppertahl line got the idea from this. I can't find any photo's of the Cheshunt Railway,does anyone know of any please? Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted February 19, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2014 Googling around this I found the Cheshunt Railway, an early horse-drawn monorail. Is there any mention of this in the book? Not that I can find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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