Rail-Online Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hi, Whilst scanning a few photos from Seaham in 1966 I came across this view - I am pretty sure those battered things are handrails and not negative scratches. What do you all think? Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hi, Whilst scanning a few photos from Seaham in 1966 I came across this view - I am pretty sure those battered things are handrails and not negative scratches. What do you all think? Tony They definitely look like handrails; I do wonder who might go into a hopper wagon, though- perhaps when the load was frozen and wouldn't flow through the bottom doors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted April 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2014 This photo on the Bristol Railway Archive site of HTV hoppers also shows handrails, albeit of a different design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yes, those are handrails, the rails at the end form a ladder for internal access. The wooden Chauldrons had handrails inside as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 A friend of mine was a GP in Hartlepool for many years. He remembers treating a local coal merchant who had been using a pick axe to free up 21 tons of frozen coal that was stood over a coal drop with the hopper doors open when gravity took over. I don't think that the internal handrails were of much use... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 A friend of mine was a GP in Hartlepool for many years. He remembers treating a local coal merchant who had been using a pick axe to free up 21 tons of frozen coal that was stood over a coal drop with the hopper doors open when gravity took over. I don't think that the internal handrails were of much use... You shouldn't chuckle, but......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 The use of hand rails inside mineral hoppers can be traced back at least to the introduction of the P6 hoppers by the NER before world war one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Found another Negative showing internals, far hopper is a LNER built one and has a different arrangement Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Found another Negative showing internals, far hopper is a LNER built one and has a different arrangement Tony Tony Does the original negative show more of the first hopper as it is lettered up for "Iron Ore" and I suspect it may be a MoT one? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Tony Does the original negative show more of the first hopper as it is lettered up for "Iron Ore" and I suspect it may be a MoT one? Mark Saunders Sorry Mark - that is the total extent of the neg. I too saw the Iron Ore branding but it was being used for coal traffic at the time as it is at Sunderland South Dock. I did wonder if it would be overloaded if fully filled with Iron Ore as it is such a dense mineral. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Sorry Mark - that is the total extent of the neg. I too saw the Iron Ore branding but it was being used for coal traffic at the time as it is at Sunderland South Dock. I did wonder if it would be overloaded if fully filled with Iron Ore as it is such a dense mineral. Tony Easily, it would probably be only about a third full depending on the iron content of the ore loaded, I have some photos of one of these stuffed in a cripple road after a hopper malfunction resulted in it being filled to the brim and then some, the springs are hard on the break stops and the whole thing is basically groaning under the weight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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