Quarryscapes Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 As seen here: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/wagons/gwr87782.html Seem to figure in a few official photos of wagons, anybody care to give a history? (and a 4mm supplier!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 GWR self-contained - suggest you check with Dave Franks at Lanarkshire Models (davefrk of this parish) who'll be able to advise whether he does them and maybe suggest where they might be found if he doesn't. Edit - 'fraid it's just you, Mickey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Yes, the Gloucester photo shows the GWR self-contained buffer introduced in 1910 and first used on this wagon type together with O14 and V12 vans, see here. A quick google does suggest that Dave Franks does these, but with 18" rather than the 15" head shown in the photo. I believe he might also do the Dowty buffer shown in the second photo. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 in 4mm ABS produce them - I still have a bag of them. I think I have seen some in David Geen's range but I will have to check. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Have a read here... http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/GRCW_Bluebell.html Buffers should be LMS part Number B030 or B031. (These are stepped self contained but the HMRS phot in the link in post #1, the buffers appear to have parallel body's.) If you need the Mk1 Dowty's as fitted by PBA they are part no BH01. Here's the real Deal. Porcy EDIT: 11th (and subsequent) photographs on this page: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/cw_news/gwr87782_restoration.html seems to confirm that the buffer body was indeed pre 1915 parallel body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Many thanks guys - how widespread were they in use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Many thanks guys - how widespread were they in use? Assuming you mean the GWR self-contained type, they were very common on new built wagons and vans between 1911 and 1923. As the page in your op says, 10815 wagons of the O11 diagram were built, and they were fitted to several other less numerous diagrams. Gloucester RC&W built about 1750 O11s and similar numbers were built by other wagon companies. After the grouping, the GWR continued to use them on many NCU wagons (opens with sheet supports, china clay wagons, many vans, etc.) though the RCH type was adopted for most others. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 So on a 1905 build O2 I take it I shouldn't fit them? how about an O4 as in the other Coopercraft kit? I really need some books on GWR wagons! And some rub down transfers, but that's another story! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler Fan Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 As with many of these wagons going walk about on other Company rails, GWR removed the sheet rails; looks like the same on PBA example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 So on a 1905 build O2 I take it I shouldn't fit them? how about an O4 as in the other Coopercraft kit? Not on an O4 either, they were earlier builds (1901-4) than the O2. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 Plain ones it is then for now! Can't really get away with a Clayhood in North Wales to excuse them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2015 Yes, the Gloucester photo shows the GWR self-contained buffer introduced in 1910 and first used on this wagon type together with O14 and V12 vans, see here. A quick google does suggest that Dave Franks does these, but with 18" rather than the 15" head shown in the photo. I believe he might also do the Dowty buffer shown in the second photo. The B013 buffer linked to above is not the GWR type, you want either the B022 1’6”13" head or B023 1’6”16" head. I've used these on several kits, very nicely made and detailed buffers. Edit: forgot, they also do the B030 1'8 1/2" 13" head self contained GWR buffer too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The B013 buffer linked to above is not the GWR type... Quite so, not sure why I linked to the LMS type Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2015 Probably just a simple brain fart Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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