Focalplane Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Some background. In 2003 I returned to Europe after 30 years working in the oil industry. The previous 23 years I had lived in Houston, Texas where I picked up a devotion to all things EsPee, but enough was enough, we decided to return to what was to be our retirement home in England. Which we did, but the England I returned to was far different from the one I left in 1974 and a holiday to southern France in 2004 set us to think about a second home in the sun among the vineyards, etc. etc. Being overly cautious we did nothing for three years, then started to visit at odd times of the year, staying at a fine self catering apartment near Béziers. In 2009 we rented an apartment in the same village and it then took three years to find what we were looking for, a "lock up and leave" apartment near the coast but not on it with access to good hiking and wild swimming locations. Since November 2012 we have been happily living in Aude though I should stress that we still have that retirement cottage in England! So, on with the purpose of this photo thread. Member JeffP is responsible for instigating it with his fine sequence of older photos. I have previously posted many of mine on the US site, trainorders.com, for which you have to be a paid up member to see anything more than small thumbnails. As a modeler I also try to capture images of the details that good layouts need and I also take photos of the many abandoned branch lines in the region. I'll kick this post off, then, with two photos of a 2007 Talgo service from Montpellier to Cartagena. The motive power is my favorite of all SNCF electrics, the aptly named "nez cassé" or "broken nose" BB7200 series which towers above the miniature shared bogie carriages. The red colored Talgo series are long gone from this line now, so this is truly historical. I will post more on the Talgos later. The first shows the west/southbound train approaching the Malpas Tunnel, immediately west of Colombieres. This tunnel passes under the Canal du Midi, also in a tunnel. The second shows the same train after it has passed through the tunnel and now passing Nissan station. This latter location features in many of my photos. Both of these photos were taken from the ridge that forms the Oppidum d'Ensérune. An excellent spot, particularly with a good telephoto lens mounted on a tripod! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Nice, love railway photography in the S of France, the blue skies seem endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 The blues skies may seem endless, but when it rains down there, you know about it...On the last two occasions, both in late Spring, we've visited Languedoc, the weather has not been good. On the first, we were staying near Gignac, and decided to take my mother to see Lac du Salagou- when we got there, it was raining so heavily, we couldn't see the lake from the road. On the second, we were going to visit one of my wife's former colleagues, who was restoring a hôtel-particulière outside Pezenas. We went down via Millau, where mid-day temperatures were about 3 Celsius.Whilst the plain was slightly warmer, the only blue sky visible was some miles off-shore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Ah the weather! Yes, it can be most unpredictable and all those catchment areas for flood water along the autoroutes are there for a reason (take note Highways UK!) Some examples. We rented a 3.5 tonne truck to move our effects down south in February. A75 is the cheapest toll route but in winter it can be closed. For us it stayed open but the temperature went down to -17ºC north of Millau. Winter 2011/2 was the big freeze. The Canal du Midi froze over, the Leucate Etang froze over, ice appeared on rocks on the beach at Leucate. I have been told that the southern France olive would not have survived another one or two days of sub-zero weather. La Tramontane! La Marine! Every wind in France has a name! In these examples you cannot have both at the same time - one blows from the NW, the other from the SE. La Tram wins most of the time. What amuses me about the TV real estate programs is how many people appear to decide to live in the area after just one visit! Do they really think that the summer Mediterranean climate lasts year round? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 The branch line from Narbonne north to Bize is still used occasionally though the tourist train operation ceased several years ago. The line crosses the Canal du Midi where the canal is also joined by the Canal de la Robine, a spur that runs down to Port La Nouvelle. The two photos show the blue sky as well as the canal (the first one of them does!) These were five exposure "natural" HDR efforts, the only way to reduce contrast under the midday sun. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 So one day we visited the big city, Montpellier, which apparently tops the list of cities most French people would like to live in. It does have a certain character though I prefer Perpignan. And there at Gare St. Roch was a real stranger, or so I thought at the time: A British Class 66! In fact there are quite a few "Sheds" working as expats in Europe. What was immediately obvious was the very different loading gauge of the locomotive and the tank cars it was pulling. One advantage of working in Europe is that an air-conditioning unit can be stuck on top of the cab - quite a prerequisite in Languedoc summers - though this one had not been so modified. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 We have a property in the Limousin, actually southern Haute Vienne. Go four km south, you drop into the Dordogne, go 16km west, you are in the Charente. Ours is at 450m, so we get rain off the Atlantic......sometimes it can rain constantly for 48 hours or more. We also get what is known locally as a bruine.......like a sea fret. The A75........yes, towed a caravan up and down that, it rises to over 1100m...the Col des Issartets, at 1121m, over 3640ft!!! Compare that with the M62 which goes up to about 424...and we think that's high. As an aside, it took the French the same amount of time to push the A75 over 100km south, up hill and down dale, viaducts, tunnels and embankments, as it took us here in the UK to enlarge four lanes of the A1 to eight over 12 miles!!!! On the flat. Here's one of my offerings, a pair of local units at Narbonne, I think. It would have been August 1999 or thereabouts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Introducing Gare de Nissan Near where I used to live and an excellent spot for close up train photography! Nissan closed down but was re-opened as an Arrete, or stop, with certain (very few) trains slowing down to respond to an arm wave. Only Regionals in the rush hour, basically. Grande Lignes went by at 160kph. So did TGVs. Nissan station has been let to a family but the last time I was there it was empty and rather forlorn. I can recommend the line between Montpellier and Narbonne for serious "railfanning" as there are all the examples of French trains you could ask for: TGVs (Duplexes and Reseau) Grande Lignes - CoRail, AutoTrain, etc. Regionals - Languedoc Roussillon mainly but other regions sometimes appear Freight - Container, Wood Pulp, Covered Wagons, Tank Cars, Transfesa Maintenance - all sorts! Because there is no LGV between Nimes and Perpignan, and won't be for several more years, the line shares regular traffic with TGVs. And the bonus is that you really can get close to a fast but not high speed TGV. Makes easier photography too. Edited July 16, 2014 by Focalplane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Five years ago, most TVGs south of Nimes/Montpellier were the single deck Reseau (System) trainset. What we think of as the classic French high speed train. As demand increased out of Gare de Lyon the tendency has been to replace Paris trains with Duplex trainsets while retaining Reseau trainsets for cross country services that use, somewhere along the line, high speed track. So Perpignan-Bruxelles, Toulouse-Dijon cross country trains still retain the older design but today you are more likely to see Duplex TGVs, often in pairs. Two examples from 5 years ago: The first is a Reseau trainset heading into the Malpas Tunnel near Nissan The second is a Reseau passing through Nissan. Note the yellow line, an advisory to would be passengers that this is as close as they should stand to the tracks. No fences, just simple signs advising you that trains run at high speed and can be dangerous. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 One of the joys of living around Béziers is the proximity of the main line to the Canal du Midi. This shot was taken from the tow path near Colombieres, just east of the Malpas Tunnel. The amazing Etang de Montady, a drained lake dating back to the 12th Century, is behind the main line. A relatively short train of tank cars had what appeared to be a rather powerful rake of locomotives (double heading is not unusual, but FIVE?) In truth, only one locomotive was working, the front BB7200. Its two cousins behind have their pantographs lowered, while the Class 668xxx diesels are also in tow. The latter are often seen at Nimes MPD, the regional SNCF centre. Various explanations for their presence at Nimes run from emergency use when the overhead power fails to maintenance trains at night on the LGV, again possibly when the power is switched off. Similar pairs are also seen at Gare de Lyon in Paris. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 The previous post mentioned Béziers which is an important stop and junction along the Midi Main Line. Most of the facilities at Béziers are out of use, including a large MPD/Works and marshalling yards. Béziers is also the southern end of the single track line from Clermont Ferrand, still operating but with autobus workings to avoid the Viaduc to Garabit. The station building is classic SNCF architecture, very similar to the next large station down the line at Narbonne. The train shed is relatively small, at least when two coupled TGV trainsets stop. But notice the throwback to steam days to the right: A classic French water crane! No longer connected but left in place as is so often the case in France. A conventional "Grandes Lignes" express at Béziers, with a westbound train, possibly from Nice to Bordeaux. The locomotive is BB7255, yet another of my favorite "Nez Cassés"! Note that both pantographs are up, a sign that this is a long train. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nice photos, we camped for five weeks at a time up near Clermont L'Herault, and I spent quite a bit of time at Beziers. I used to walk in the back way to the works in the evening sunshine, never got asked what I was up to, hardly a soul about. Very atmospheric though. In the yards on the far side of the works from the mainline were rfows of locos awaiting the torch, from old 9400 to little tiny Y2400. Even a row of the old 4700 locos that worked the line up the the Somport pass before the viaduct was smashed. Why don't trains pass over the Viaduc de Garabit now, do you know? I have video of a train passing over it shot from the last coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Nice photos, we camped for five weeks at a time up near Clermont L'Herault, and I spent quite a bit of time at Beziers. I used to walk in the back way to the works in the evening sunshine, never got asked what I was up to, hardly a soul about. Very atmospheric though. In the yards on the far side of the works from the mainline were rfows of locos awaiting the torch, from old 9400 to little tiny Y2400. Even a row of the old 4700 locos that worked the line up the the Somport pass before the viaduct was smashed. Why don't trains pass over the Viaduc de Garabit now, do you know? I have video of a train passing over it shot from the last coach. I understand that the bridge is not in good enough condition at the moment for trains to cross. I saw it the other morning while driving to Paris and there is no sign of any work being done. Low priority I assume. Two photos taken in the early morning sunlight. I was driving only because my TGV had been cancelled due to "la Grève" (strike), this was the highlight of an otherwise long drive. Edited July 5, 2014 by Focalplane 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Long it is.....did you ever do the same in the days of the N9? Before that pass and the whole road system fell into the valley, south of Millau? In those days you wound down a cliff face under the viaduct, and climbed back up the other side. There used to be a nice hotel nearby where you could swim in the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Long it is.....did you ever do the same in the days of the N9? Before that pass and the whole road system fell into the valley, south of Millau? In those days you wound down a cliff face under the viaduct, and climbed back up the other side. There used to be a nice hotel nearby where you could swim in the lake. The first time we travelled on A75 was in 2004, before the Viaduct de Millau was completed, so we remember well the drive down into and up from from Millau. There was a special lookout to view the fast completing bridge which was compelling. I would think the Viaduct chops off at least 90 minutes from the journey time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2014 The locomotive is BB7255, yet another of my favorite "Nez Cassés"! Note that both pantographs are up, a sign that this is a long train. It is pretty normal to see both pantographs raised when a train is starting from a station, even on short rakes of coaches, to get the train moving. Once underway the front panto is dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 It is pretty normal to see both pantographs raised when a train is starting from a station, even on short rakes of coaches, to get the train moving. Once underway the front panto is dropped. But this one was entering the station, the water column is at the eastern end of the station and the westbound train has some way to go before stopping. I have heard that the drawdown for heavy loads does require the second pantograph to be raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 And now for something different - a tourist heritage line west of Rivesaltes. Le Train du Pays Cathare et du Fenouillèdes (TPCF) is a privately run tourist line from Rivesaltes to Axat following the Agly river valley (well, sort of). The scenery is stunning and the upper reaches include some curved viaducts. Sadly the line no longer passes trough the Aude Gorge to Quillan. Equipment includes rail cars and diesel hauled open wagons in the summer. It may not be as famous as Le Train Jaune but is a good alternative. The first two are of a two car train on a Père Noel special before Christmas in 2010: The third is at the line's storage sidings 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I remember staying at Axat when this line was still SNCF-operated, about 20 years ago (my god-daughter's godmother had a house just down from the railway).A pair of BB66xxx would arrive about 09:00 with a number of covered hoppers, which it would take as far as St-Martin-Lys. This involved it turning through almost 180 degrees on a very impressive curved viaduct. It would return some hours later with loaded wagons; I believe the commodity in question was talc, though there were probably other things as well. The line originally went via Quillan to Carcassone, but the section from Quillan to St Martin was severed a long time ago. When we were there, there was evidence that timber traffic had been loaded at Axat. I'm told that the line, as well as having the tourist service, now also has 'Operateur du Proximite' status, with some mineral traffic being handled from Saint-Paul-de-Fenouillet to Rivesaltes, where it is collected by either ECR or Europorte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I understand that the bridge is not in good enough condition at the moment for trains to cross. I saw it the other morning while driving to Paris and there is no sign of any work being done. Low priority I assume. Two photos taken in the early morning sunlight. I was driving only because my TGV had been cancelled due to "la Grève" (strike), this was the highlight of an otherwise long drive. Sad to hear the viaduct is still closed - went to see it in 2005 while on holiday near Langeac - made sure we were there for a picnic at lunchtime when a train in either direction passed over it within an hour or 2. Most impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 As far as I can tell, the Montpellier-Cartagena Talgos are no more now that the Paris-Barcelona through TGV is up and running. This is a real shame for railfans as the Talgos made an interesting sight and also traveled the coastal route complete with a gauge change at Port Bou. So there will be several postings on the Talgo, starting with this one which shows a modern Talgo passing through Nissan with me standing trackside (behind the yellow line). The train would be the morning run which passed Nissan around 8:30 am. The train approaches, hauled by a locomotive belonging to the 26xxx class. The usual loco was a BB7200. As the train passes my vantage point you can see how much smaller the Talgo coaches are, yet they seem spacious inside, no doubt due to the small single axles connecting each coach to the next which allow for a lower floor level. Talgo trainsets have separate "power" cars to provide on board electricity, etc: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 The Narbonne Autotrain runs during the summer months between Germany and Narbonne. It is one of the few remaining autotrains and with the high prices it is understandable why they are a diminishing sight. An overnight service, the train leaves Narbonne toward the end of the afternoon. It is a long train as can be seen from the photos. The first sees the train approaching Nissan, taken with a teklephoto lens that brings the distant Corbieres Hills much closer than they really are. The busy road is the old Route Nationale 9, a haven for prostitutes each afternoon, though the government has plans to curtail their activity. We once counted 13 "ladies of the afternoon" between Nissan and Narbonne. The train then entered the Malpas Tunnel and from my hilltop viewpoint I waited for it to emerge: The second class DB coach is not the only foreigner on the line, as well as the Spanish Talgos there are also Italian couchettes to be seen. The train then took the curve into Colombieres and on to Germany. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 "One train can hide another" is the translation of this sign seen at a minor level crossing west of Nissan: And it does happen! First a westbound Téoz (Grandes Lignes) express approaches the crossing: As it passes an eastbound Reseau TGV approaches. Headlights are dimmed and the inevitable horn is sounded: The Téoz express clears the crossing and the TGV bears down on the crossing: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Two TGVs - Spot the difference! Both photographed at Malpas Tunnel. The first is a standard Reseau single deck TGV. The Second is. . . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Malpas Tunnel approach, west bound Grandes Lignes Express Taking the foreshortened curve east of Colombières, a west bound express approaches the Malpas Tunnel and my viewpoint on the ridge above. A typical 13 car train pulled by a dual voltage BB22xxx class, No. 22323. A few moments later the locomotive comes close enough for a portrait. I cannot distinguish the regional shield on the side, perhaps others can? Typically these trains run across southern France, anywhere from Nice to Bordeaux. They are extremely comfortable to ride in (particularly First Class) but there is a noticeable judder during starting and stopping which does not occur with a TGV due to its shared bogies. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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