TomScrut Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) On 03/02/2022 at 10:01, Pete the Elaner said: I would have agreed with that, so the 47s surprised me. I doubt we'll see more 90s for a year or so. Bachmann have a lot of other models in their catalogue. The 47s didn't surprise me but I will be surprised if they sustain the release rate into next lot of announcements. Especially given I think pretty much every era is catered for with them now. I hope we get more 90s but they have done a few and so will be a while I think. I just don't think I'll end up with any since none were in the colours I wanted. If they had done an orange FL one instead of a green one, or a modern DB of some sort I'd have been all over it. Edited February 5, 2022 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 It is curious that we will shortly have 3 different Freightliner liveries to choose from but no EWS/DB… does make you wonder if FL helped with development or there are Licensing challenges with others? Or maybe FL are more popular? They do seem to have worked their 90 fleet harder over the years… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: It is curious that we will shortly have 3 different Freightliner liveries to choose from but no EWS/DB… does make you wonder if FL helped with development or there are Licensing challenges with others? Or maybe FL are more popular? They do seem to have worked their 90 fleet harder over the years… I was wondering that, but then could the Kernow one have been done without DB's permission? Bit of an odd one that as I expect that logo etc. on that is property of DB Germany, and the livery was on a BR loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, The Black Prince said: I think we will see a continued selection of 47s coming for a while yet, they have all that development to pay off and if they continue selling like hot cakes they will want to cash in on that. Yes but I don't think they'll do as many in the next release. A) we are looking into Q3 for the ones they have announced anyways IIRC and B) they won't want to have them sat on shelves whilst wallets catch up with the first releases. They will need to make their money back but I don't think they'll be releasing 20 different ones a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 21:19, chris37422 said: I think ADB968008 was correct in saying 90029 was first. I have the below dates at Toton for (red)repaint dates 90029 Nov/Dec 2012 90018 Jan 2013 90036 Jun 2013 90040 Dec 15/Jan 2016 90019 April 2016 90028 Dec 2018/Jan 2019 90035 Sep 2019/Oct 2019 90037 Aug 2020/Sep 2020 Every day is a school day then ... my apologies @adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 21:19, chris37422 said: I think ADB968008 was correct in saying 90029 was first. I have the below dates at Toton for (red)repaint dates 90029 Nov/Dec 2012 90018 Jan 2013 90036 Jun 2013 90040 Dec 15/Jan 2016 90019 April 2016 90028 Dec 2018/Jan 2019 90035 Sep 2019/Oct 2019 90037 Aug 2020/Sep 2020 Speaking of repaints, do you know whats happening with 90021 ? which has just gone off to be repainted this week just gone @chris37422 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 5 hours ago, TomScrut said: I was wondering that, but then could the Kernow one have been done without DB's permission? Bit of an odd one that as I expect that logo etc. on that is property of DB Germany, and the livery was on a BR loco. The model is being made by Bachmann, which includes Liliput in its stable and over the years will have made thousands of DB liveried models in the HO range, I would expect all the licensing is already in place for how current and former liveries are reproduced (the Kernow edition uses the old logo and 90s version of DB 'traffic red'). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, andyman7 said: The model is being made by Bachmann, which includes Liliput in its stable and over the years will have made thousands of DB liveried models in the HO range, I would expect all the licensing is already in place for how current and former liveries are reproduced (the Kernow edition uses the old logo and 90s version of DB 'traffic red'). I think the licensing point was more if another manufacturer had exclusivity on licensing on the 90s specifically. Not sure if this is a thing or not. Bachmann make plenty of DB 66s. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnson Street IEMD said: Speaking of repaints, do you know whats happening with 90021 ? which has just gone off to be repainted this week just gone @chris37422 ? Is this the celeb Malcolm one ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: Is this the celeb Malcolm one ? I heard it was heading into DB red ... but there's that the new Malcolm livery on the horizon too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that these are now in stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Rail Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just to stir the livery pot another RES one on its way home..,, 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 That looks great in RES. The new Malcolm one is supposed to be going on 034. I was surprised there wasn’t a plain DB red one but I’m still adding a Virgin one and the Freightliner in triple grey from this batch. cheers Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that these are now in stock. I haven’t done an exhaustive survey but none of my usual retailers seem to have them yet (or at least haven’t updated their webpages yet). Where did you see them? I’m still feeling skint from overindulgence in 86s… 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Patriot87003 Posted February 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Matt said: I haven’t done an exhaustive survey but none of my usual retailers seem to have them yet (or at least haven’t updated their webpages yet). Where did you see them? I’m still feeling skint from overindulgence in 86s… The Bachmann website currently shows that the sound fitted versions of the IC Mainline 90026 (32-613SF) and the Freightliner Grey 90048 (32-620SF) have arrived … link below. So retailers should be receiving them during the coming days. https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/category/model-railway/branchline/electric-locomotives The non-sound fitted versions are due during March/April, while all versions of the Freightliner Green and Virgin livery are due during April/May. My funds also depleted following the arrival of the 86’s … and a failed fridge/freezer! So currently saving again for this year’s pre-orders including the IC Mainline and Virgin 90’s. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Matt said: I haven’t done an exhaustive survey but none of my usual retailers seem to have them yet (or at least haven’t updated their webpages yet). Where did you see them? I’m still feeling skint from overindulgence in 86s… I had a sound fitted Mainline one on order from John Dutfield's in Chelmsford. Ken e-mailed me to say they were in stock & he had tested it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2022 Hereford models also show them in stock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamescav95 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Fresh from Kernow and on the test track. It’s an amazing model and so happy I went with sound fitted. Perfectly smooth runner straight out the box 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Jamescav95 said: Fresh from Kernow and on the test track. It’s an amazing model and so happy I went with sound fitted. Perfectly smooth runner straight out the box Sound fitted does make quite a bit of difference on them, doesnt it ? Does the panto rise and fall still make a noise on these newer ones ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnson Street IEMD said: Does the panto rise and fall still make a noise on these newer ones ? I'd be surprised if it was silent. OTOH whether it makes less noise or a different noise is another matter altogether 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamescav95 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnson Street IEMD said: Sound fitted does make quite a bit of difference on them, doesnt it ? Does the panto rise and fall still make a noise on these newer ones ? It’s still fairly loud yeah but not as bad the the first batch 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Street IEMD Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I imagine my local model shop will have them in soon enough, so we may take Malcolm, Bill or one of the Team Red Skodas in for a sound comparison I'm not entertaining buying one till @Bachmann catch up with reality, there are more than Freightliner operating the Class 90 currently ... and opting to make the first three era-10/11 90s in their colours, to me, just doesnt make sense ... if it were the other way round, i would still think it was crackers to have done three DB liveried 90s, despite being chuffed about it ... Kat@johnsonstreetIEMD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 00:08, adb968008 said: Interesting choice of buffers, puts it post privatisation (summer 1994), rather than pre, I guess 1994 - 2003… A good choice for VT passenger services, and covers its longest period of running in that livery. 90029 has always been an odd one out.. As built as 90029 in Mainline it ended up in Freight mostly from 1988-1992, despite having the passenger fittings / rubbing plate. Yet after becoming a 90/1 in DB livery and having its rubbing plates removed Its moved upto being a long term passenger service hire-in for much of its life, firstly to VT upto 2003, renumbered back to 90/0 and EWS livery, then the Pretendolino and then on the Sleeper. In 2012 it was the first one in (Official UK) DB livery and moved to the ECML until very recently, 2019. its now in Grand Central currently.. another odd ball livery. Colourful history, literally. An interesting find this weekend - even if 90029 wasn't the main focus of the video. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Those wanting a DB one, rejoice! https://locomotionmodels.com/exclusive-models/diesel-and-electric-locomotives/br-class-90-no-90028-sir-william-mcalpine-db-cargo_1 https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/170596-Bachmann-collectors-club-locomotion-models-announcement-at-model-rail-scotland-1100-and-youtube-1115/ Edited February 25, 2022 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Well, rejoice if you are also happy paying a premium! I get it and I am glad it is available, but with prices spiralling (and threatening to go further) it sticks in the throat a bit. Still, not as bad as the red team and their tactics but could take a lesson from the green team! With all that said, I'm still working out if I can move money around to afford it! Edited February 25, 2022 by ac1874 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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