Midland Railway in EM gauge

[Martin S-C]

My browser is Firefox and its Adblock Plus. I know they make a plug-in (or add-on) for Chrome as well. There are some websites that won't allow you in using an ad-blocker, mostly newspapers or other media but if I want a particular new story I just go elsewhere.

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/end. Apologies to everyone for hi-jacking the thread. Back to the trains!


 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Martin S-C

[Donw]

12 hours ago, Mrkirtley800 said:

OK, point taken.  I get a great deal of enjoyment out of RMW and if adverts are necessary, so be it.  However, I would be happy to pay a subscription if that is what is required to keep it going.

 

Derek I got fed up with them and as I had a digital subscription to Garden rail  swapped that with some extra cash and pay a subscrition to world of railways. I get Gold membership of RMWEB - no adverts and digital access to BRM and Gardenrail  for £70 quid less than the price of one coffee a week.

 

Don

[Mrkirtley800]

Any of you fellas sending me pm’s, I can’t get at them.  There is a broad band of emptiness along the top of the page, which stops me getting at them.

Best use my email address for now until things are sorted.

It is          dando22@btinternet.com

Derek

[Rowsley17D]

Treat yourself to a Christmas present of Gold membership, Derek. Put the £10 OAP Christmas bonus towards it!

[Martin S-C]

On 12/12/2021 at 22:41, Mrkirtley800 said:

Any of you fellas sending me pm’s, I can’t get at them.  There is a broad band of emptiness along the top of the page, which stops me getting at them.

Best use my email address for now until things are sorted.

It is          dando22@btinternet.com

Derek

You haven't by accident hit the F11 key on your keyboard have you? I wonder if that would do it as it hides the browsers upper toolbars. Of course I may be wrong but its something you can try.

[Mrkirtley800]

And lo!  It was lost,  but it has been found, glory be!!

 

This is my first Craftsman kit,  which I built in 1988 ish.  It was one of the regular engines to run on my old exhibition layout, Kirkby Malham mk1.

This one was given the Coachman Larry paint and line out treatment, but a second similar loco had to do with my efforts, which is why they are never seen together.

I also acquired two Midland 0-4-4T kits, one of which was built in 00 and finished in LMS black, for my youngest son.  He is now, of course, an 0 gauger, so all the 00 locos have gone to his son.

The other is still waiting to be painted and is to EM.  ‘Bout time I extracted a digit.

The mainframes (chassis) on all these kits were shaped to take what looked like a Triang 04 motor, so were thrown away and all four sport scratch built frames, with Mashima motors and I think, gearboxes.  So long ago, I have forgotten, and I have not taken a peek under them recently.

Like all my tank locos, they are beam compensated, so run pretty well.

This one is a very quiet loco and a pleasure to operate.

But because I have not used it very much, it sits in it’ s box in a cupboard.

Last year,when I began to check the running qualities of my engine fleet, this one had disappeared.  My only thought was that it had slipped down behind the cupboard, but because of my cranky knees, I couldn’t get down to look for it.

My daughter came to the rescue by almost climbing inside the cupboard and retrieving it.  It had actually slipped under the base of the cupboard unit.

Anyway, now that it has appeared, it is being thoroughly checked for running qualities.

Incidentally, as well as compensating the tank engines, I arrange for pick ups on the tenders of tender engines and which can be split framed, compensated or just the first two axles run in slots, putting some of the tenders weight on the back of the engine.   Most of the locos also sport pickups.

During our exhibiting, I was not prepared to accept jerky running.

The top picture is a bit unfortunate.  It shows I haven’t finished off my milk van roofs properly.

Derek

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2021 by Mrkirtley800

[lezz01]

I have one in the process of being rebuilt Derek. They were designed for the Ancorbridge DS10 motor. Mine too has a better chassis and a 1220 mashima with flywheel. I believe I used Gibson mainframes and conrods it is also beam compensated with Perseverance components. 

Regards Lez. 

[Mrkirtley800]

 

 

As 2021 disappears down the line, let me wish all my fellow RMWebbersa very happy, safe and productive New Year.

Lets hope 2022  allows us to return to some sort of normality, whatever that is.

Derek

 

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2021 by Mrkirtley800

[mullie]

Happy new year to you and all your family. 

 

Martyn 

[Rowsley17D]

All the best, Derek to you and yours.

 

[Alister_G]

Happy New Year to you and Olga, all the very best.

 

Al.

[lezz01]

Happy new year Derek.

Regards Lez.

[queensquare]

13 hours ago, Mrkirtley800 said:

And lo!  It was lost,  but it has been found, glory be!!

 

This is my first Craftsman kit,  which I built in 1988 ish.  It was one of the regular engines to run on my old exhibition layout, Kirkby Malham mk1.

This one was given the Coachman Larry paint and line out treatment, but a second similar loco had to do with my efforts, which is why they are never seen together.

I also acquired two Midland 0-4-4T kits, one of which was built in 00 and finished in LMS black, for my youngest son.  He is now, of course, an 0 gauger, so all the 00 locos have gone to his son.

The other is still waiting to be painted and is to EM.  ‘Bout time I extracted a digit.

The mainframes (chassis) on all these kits were shaped to take what looked like a Triang 04 motor, so were thrown away and all four sport scratch built frames, with Mashima motors and I think, gearboxes.  So long ago, I have forgotten, and I have not taken a peek under them recently.

Like all my tank locos, they are beam compensated, so run pretty well.

This one is a very quiet loco and a pleasure to operate.

But because I have not used it very much, it sits in it’ s box in a cupboard.

Last year,when I began to check the running qualities of my engine fleet, this one had disappeared.  My only thought was that it had slipped down behind the cupboard, but because of my cranky knees, I couldn’t get down to look for it.

My daughter came to the rescue by almost climbing inside the cupboard and retrieving it.  It had actually slipped under the base of the cupboard unit.

Anyway, now that it has appeared, it is being thoroughly checked for running qualities.

Incidentally, as well as compensating the tank engines, I arrange for pick ups on the tenders of tender engines and which can be split framed, compensated or just the first two axles run in slots, putting some of the tenders weight on the back of the engine.   Most of the locos also sport pickups.

During our exhibiting, I was not prepared to accept jerky running.

The top picture is a bit unfortunate.  It shows I haven’t finished off my milk van roofs properly.

Derek

 

 

 

 

Happy New Year one and all

 

Your 1F in  red looks fabulous. I built a pair a couple of years ago in 2mm. Mine will be grubby black c. early 1920s but the other is lined red. I built it for my mate Nick Dearnley (of DG couplings fame) and he is in charge of painting and lining it!

 

Jerry

 

 

[Donw]

Best wishes to you and Olga for the new year and the same to your followers.

 

.

Don

[Barry O]

Hopefully I can call in and see you and Olga when we are at Robin Hoods Bay at Easter Derek.. 

 

Have a good 2022 and I wish you and Olga good health for the coming year!

 

Baz

[Mrkirtley800]

Hello Jerry,

          Those open cabs look very nice indeed, and in 2mm ——- wow

Derek

[Mrkirtley800]

 Barry,

       You know where we are.

[Dave Hunt]

Hi Derek. What a lovely little open cab. Just to join the party, this is my S7 version taken a couple of years ago on my embryonic layout. They are some of my favourite Midland engines.

 

A very happy new year to you and Olga and I hope to be able to see your model in the flesh one day.

 

 

All the best.

 

Dave

[Compound2632]

Somebody needs to work out how to build a working chassis:

 

 

... along with soldering neatly and all that sort of thing.

 

No. 1092 is marked with a ? in Summerson for its 1899-1902 allocation but is in a batch of five Derby-built engines the rest of which were at Birmingham or Burton at that time and all at Birmingham in May 1908.

[Mrkirtley800]

Hello Dave, my son bought me a Mercian Models kit in 7 mm for my birthday, some years ago.  He asked me to build it and make it go but it was for his son, who was six months old at the time.

It was nice to build, and in the kit were included parts to build either open or closed cab.  I built the open cab version, and finished it in plain black, and to 0 gauge fine scale standards.

It was compensated and runs very well with its Mashima motor and gearbox.

Being a fully paid up Yorkshireman, I couldn’t waste the additional parts, so a  part kit, part scratchbuild appeared with full cab, compensation and big Mashima and gearbox.

I finished it in crimson lake, which puts it running prior to 1911?

Here are a couple of pics.  One shows the open cab version behind.

I note they are gathering dust.

Derek

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by Mrkirtley800

[Mrkirtley800]

Stephen,  yes I realise my locomotive allocation might be a bit wayward, the 0-4-4WT was mainly London based although there is a photo of one on a train in Derbyshire.

Kirkby Malham is (or was when I used to pass through) a beautiful village, but did not have a railway.   So why not stretch imagination and use any locomotive that appeals.

The 0-4-4 WT is a particular favourite, being built way back in 1966, as was my Kirtley goods (the crimson one).

The information available then was pretty limited, so if we built an out of the way engine, we may not get it right, and that is the case in a few of my efforts at that time.

Derek

Edited January 5, 2022 by Mrkirtley800

[Rowsley17D]

12 hours ago, Mrkirtley800 said:

Stephen,  yes I realise my locomotive allocation might be a bit wayward, the 0-4-4WT was mainly London based although there is a photo of one on a train in Derbyshire.

 

That's a good enough excuse for me to run the one I am building on my layout. Any chance of its number Derek?

[Compound2632]

13 hours ago, Mrkirtley800 said:

Stephen,  yes I realise my locomotive allocation might be a bit wayward, the 0-4-4WT was mainly London based although there is a photo of one on a train in Derbyshire.

Kirkby Malham is (or was when I used to pass through) a beautiful village, but did not have a railway.   So why not stretch imagination and use any locomotive that appeals.

The 0-4-4 WT is a particular favourite, being built way back in 1966, as was my Kirtley goods (the crimson one).

The information available then was pretty limited, so if we built an out of the way engine, we may not get it right, and that is the case in a few of my efforts at that time.

Derek

 

No criticism was intended! Simply that when faced with choosing one from a large class, the allocations given by Summerson are a useful tool for narrowing the field.

[lezz01]

I have a photo of one of the Kirtley WTs at Tewkesbury shed in LMS days.

Regards Lez.

[Compound2632]

S. Summerson, Midland Railway Locomotives Vol. 2 (Irwell Press, 2007) p. 112: "Nos.1206 and 1208 had gone to Gloucester by 1909 where they were used on goods duties, not being fitted with carriage warming and were to be found on Tewkesbury and Malvern branch duties. No. 1208 returned to Kentish Town by 1914 but the former remained at Gloucester until broken up in December 1928." Also: "Between December 1921 and February 1922, Nos. 1200-2 moved to Manningham and 1207-9 to Skipton. All had had their condensing gear removed some years previously."

 

He seems to have missed the earlier transfer of No. 1215 (ex 789) to Skipton for the Kirkby Malham branch. Of that engine, he does say that around 1912 it went to Derby as works shunter.