Sir Madog Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Now that Dapol´s Terrier will soon be hitting the market, it´s about time to think of a worthy home for it. Unfortunately, it won´t be a big home for that not so little doggie, as the space I have for a layout can not exceed 10´ by 2´ (in metric - 3.0m by 0.6m) - not much to give that fella the necessary exercise, but good enough for a little old fashioned shunting work. Oh, I nearly forgot to tell - on the right side of the layout, it ha to narrow down to a foot - if I want to avoid issues with SWMBO. I am not so keen about a sweet rural setting, industrial or urban is fine for me, but I have no idea how to come up with a layout design, which is rewarding to build, nice to look at and interesting to operate. Is there anybody around willing to help me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2015 Several of the Terriers worked the Newhaven harbour lines which included dock & quarry sidings,warehouses, tramway, swing bridges etc Worth looking for old aerial photos & maps Google will find photo & IRR article & plan from 1973 Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 On the Gauge O Guild website you can find, under publications, their splendid book on small layout designs. As many of them have actually been built, they provide a realistic resource for mini layouts which should be operable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Several of the Terriers worked the Newhaven harbour lines which included dock & quarry sidings,warehouses, tramway, swing bridges etc Worth looking for old aerial photos & maps Google will find photo & IRR article & plan from 1973 Dava I'd second something based on Newhaven. Try searching the 'ournewhaven' website for 'terrier'. Some cracking, inspirational pictures. http://www.ournewhaven.org.uk/category/searchgoogle.aspx?q=terrier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2015 Great photos of Newhaven & Terriers on the harbour line, lots of scope for a small layout here My project is just 6 feet, see microlayouts Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If you're into Light Railways, you could always do a little terminus. Run around loop and a couple of sidings is all you need. Perhaps something based on the "Timesaver" concept. Or perhaps something based on Ffarquhar: (Top right of the plan, shown on three modules here) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Here's a home for a Terrier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just that the loco looks like a D1 (0-4-2 T larger version) than a Terrier to me. I'm reading an old book on the Kent & East Sussex which was\is one of their true homes! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 In that case, this is more of an appropriate picture: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Now that we're on the topic of sheds (homes for locomotives) I think this is a rather attractive prototype: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF51 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If you can find a copy of, or some who has one, Iain Rice's book Designs for Urban Layouts, he has several small ones it it that you could mos likely adapt. Jim F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 On the Gauge O Guild website you can find, under publications, their splendid book on small layout designs. As many of them have actually been built, they provide a realistic resource for mini layouts which should be operable. There are two volumes. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 There are two volumes. Ed And very good indeed they be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF51 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Only the 1st is available free to download off the Gauge O Guild website. Volume 2 is available to purchase, £5 plus postage. Jim F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thank for all the info, folks! I am currently working on an idea, which I will present here to "be torn apart" - and I mean that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I must obtain a copy of Volume 2! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 I must obtain a copy of Volume 2! Me too! In the meantime, I have developed a first idea for a layout, based on an idea I think Ian Rice once put on paper for a "stacked" layout. I took the middle part and adapted it to O gauge and the space I have. I am not yet completely happy with it, but this is as good as I can do it at the moment. Your thoughts and amendments are highly appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Nice idea. I think I would make the engine shed a single track affair and extend the platform line to make a loop with the ersthwile shed line. Two loops would provide plenty of play operational flexibility. Here is a scan of the Iain Rice stacked layout. I've always had a soft spot for this design. My favourite is the one with the exchange siding allowing the appearance of main-line and privately owned locos. I would however, reverse the crossover to the exchange siding taking it off a 3-way tandem on the industrial line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I would tend to agree about having a second run round loop for the platform. Not sure you would even need a loco shed, maybe just coal & water. Possibly, use another 3-way on the right hand side to gain a bit more usable trackage. (Just my thoughts.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think I would make the engine shed a single track affair and extend the platform line to make a loop with the erstwhile shed line.ME2. The value of a run round on a passenger platform cannot be underestimated for operation appeal. Where as an extra road on a shed is just a place to hide a second loco. (just how many do you need/have on a layout this size before it starts to look more like an MPD. I would also swap the first two points so that the passenger traffic has priority (1st point to go straight to the passenger platform) OK this will shorten the warehouse loop a little but the 3-way could also be moved a little to recover the length. But its your layout you know what is important to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 I like the idea of having a passing siding at the station and also swapping the points at the right end of the layout. I have been trying to incorporate that into the track plan, but failed. I´d need minimum and extra 2 ft. for that, which I don´t have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'd link up the platform road with the front engine shed road, make this the locomotive release and reduce the shed to just 1 road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Madog Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 How´s that: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 That will allow much more fun. Now move the platform to the left and you can put in a short siding behind the pumphouse and storage tanks. What radii points are you planning to use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 That looks more sensible to me- two shed roads is very much overkill, in fact one shed road probably is! I actually think it looks OK with the station loop points inside the goods yard loop points, and this allows you to run around a passenger train without the loco going "off scene" which is generally more satisfying to watch- obviously the freight shunt does involve an exit stage left but for some reason this seems better to me than the passenger shunt doing so- possibly because the passenger loop is in the foreground. The main downside I can see is that you have a lot of pointwork and effectively only three shunting operations- loco on shed, passenger train in station, goods train under the loading dock (& potentially the rear FY road if you are treating that as an extended siding, bringing it up to four- but using that siding would involve moving the stock under the canopy). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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