jcredfer Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hi, I have fitted a number of Kadee Couplers. At the moment these are limited to various lengths of the NEM Pocket type. I thought they would be easy to fit, but even here there were small matters to be addressed, like sloppy fitting in the NEM Pocket, different heights [mainly Bachmann] I now come to the rolling stock which is not NEM Pocket fitted. I thought a little gentle application of some Kadees to a Bachmann "Local Suburban" set might not draw too much attention of the management ........... Ssshhh 'though .....I started by looking at the “Local Suburban Set” coaches [Collett Corridor] and find they have a narrow Tension Lock, attached to the Bogies [marked 3023E, if that has any meaning]. The attachment is through a bar, screwed to a moulded plate, in the centre with 2 location pegs outboard. Looking at the height where the Kadee box would be screwed, it seems that the only possible fit might come from Underset Shank Couplers. The "attachment plate" front edge is slightly beyond the end of the coach chassis, suggesting the Short [144 Whisker set, or 24 Normal set] Given the Buffers are not sprung the Medium length ones might also be worth a look [147 Whisker, or 27 Normal]. Not sure which of these will sit high enough, if at all. I would imagine that a set of Short and a set of Normal would allow for experiment. I am not sure if there is a variety of Boxes to fit them in, nor if any of the boxes will sit higher than others. The 56xx loco, from the Set, has pockets, which are standard low Bachmann Pocket ones, for which it looks like, there is no Kadee suited. They are so low it may be suitable to glue another pocket on top of it and fit a 362 coupler?? Have anyone come across any reasonable answer to this one either? Does anyone have any information about what Kadee couplers might be best from what is available and how to fit them. Regards and thank you for your time.Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted April 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2015 I realise you're asking about Kadee's but if your sets are likely to be semi-permanently coupled it might be worth investigating Bachman DMU couplings between coaches. See discussion last week where I responded to Silver Sidelines thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/880/entry-15937-%E2%80%98b%E2%80%99-set-couplings-and-colours/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 J, See the link s in your thread, I posted, did not see, this thread till later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Hi MetrOLand, I was, as you say, looking at Kadee Couplers all round, but I read your ideas with interest. The layout is intended to be put away quite frequently, but that doesn't negate any of what you say about couplings in the middle of rakes. Your ideas will remain a possible option, many thanks for the link which may also be of use to other readers too. Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted April 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2015 This document gives mounting dimensions for the HO Kadees.http://www.kadee.com/html/kadee_catalog_small.pdf#page=9 There are little problems with NEM mounts. I sometimes have to shim between the pocket and the coupling tail. There is no easy solution for the cars where the NEM mount is not at standard height. Cars where the tension lock is screwed or riveted on can have an NEM mounted in its place; drill a hole in the coupler shank. Watch out for superdetails dangling from the buffer beam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 Hi John, Thanks for the reply. Yes I have a height gauge. It certainly shows up levelling issues very clearly. Julian, I assume as a starting point you have the Kadee height gauge? I use Kadees universally and have found it to be indispensable for assisting in reliable fault-free operation. John Fitton any ideas about the Bachmann mk 1 Collett corridor coaches? ..... strange shape for the bit the Tension Locks attach too ...... Edit - forgot manners - being busy transporting kids to 3 x activities and cooking for the family is NO excuse ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I picked up a Kadee trial box a while ago for about 25 pounds, it contains many different types of kadee nuckle couplers, different lengths, different offsets, different mounts and boxes, it also contains springs, washers, uncoupling magnets, hight gauge and grease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2015 I don't know about the Colet coaches but if ey are anything like the MK 1s then I use the longest NEM available (21s?) then drill a hole in the NEM arm and mount under the wrongly situated (height wise) NEM box. Add a bit of superglue to stop them rotating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 Julian: If you are searching this site (or others) you might want to look for Kaydee and KD, which are popular miss-spellings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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