Nigel N Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I see Bachmann are bringing out a Blue & Yellow version of their VDA van as, I believe, a ZRA for the CM&EE. Does anyone have any photo's of an actual van in this livery, or know when they appeared, and how many?? Thanks Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Paul Bartlett's site has some that may fit the bill, 200654, 200664 for example - looking at the images i'm not sure whether those are in truth blue or grey though! Does Bachmann list a running number for it?http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brvda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel N Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 I haven't seen a running number so far!! I have looked at the photo's on Paul Bartlett's site, and like you, i'm not 100% sure, but I think they are looking more like grey I think???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Enlarging the above it seems to be 200654 in the bachy shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 In that case, it's obviously what Bachmann are working on. I've tried to send Paul an IM to see if he can confirm the colour of the real van in his images but I can't seem to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Problem with this one off schemes in my head is, that you'll never need a rake of them......or should I say bachys problem more like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Yeah, well maybe two off! I think the images prove that even if the colour is blue (i'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment) it's a fairly rare paint job. But then that's nothing new from the RTR manufacturers! Oddly the product number 38-146 appears to be exactly the same as a recent one in dutch grey and yellow!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel N Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Found this pic on flickr of 200654 at Mossend, where I think Paul's phot's were taken, and its definitely grey............ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndedman/7467442918/in/photolist-kyYj43-q7B7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 Found this pic on flickr of 200654 at Mossend, where I think Paul's phot's were taken, and its definitely grey............ http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndedman/7467442918/in/photolist-kyYj43-q7B7 Sorry but I beg to differ. Looking at the clouds in this picture, it was probably quite overcast and the blue looks darker and greyer as a result. Paul Bartlett's photos are taken in the sun and in those the colour is clearly blue. Based on both photos, I suspect the blue is quite dark, but is blue nevertheless. We will have to wait and see if the colour of the production model looks similarly dark in the flesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel N Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 I am hoping it is blue on 200654 as shown on Paul's photo at Mossend in 89, as it will give me a good excuse to run it on my late 80's Scottish layout!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david12345 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yeah, well maybe two off! I think the images prove that even if the colour is blue (i'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment) it's a fairly rare paint job. But then that's nothing new from the RTR manufacturers! Oddly the product number 38-146 appears to be exactly the same as a recent one in dutch grey and yellow!? I don't think they have ever produced the grey and yellow one. I think this is the substitute. The only grey and yellow civil link one that had been produced is the model rail limited edition from a few years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Was it catalogued but not released? Googling the number gets lots of references to it being a civilink grey one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david12345 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 After the Bachmann announcement on price rises and new models, the civil link one disappeared and this one took it's place. There was a discussion on another thread at the time. There were another couple of models that had changed livery at the time of the announcement too much to peoples disapproval. I can't remember where it was discussed though. I don't know if model rail mag objected to a rerun of a previous limited edition albeit weathered this time. I don't know why they would replace a sought after and common livery with this nearly unique one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 . I don't know why they would replace a sought after and common livery with this nearly unique one. Because when we started looking for them, at Bachmanns request, we couldn't find suitable examples. They had done the one we had seen between a number of us. Whereas there were two (at least) of the blue ones. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvda/e148507ab http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvda/e75a008e Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david12345 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks Paul. I thought there would have been more of the Civil Link livery. Surprising there was only one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropTheTap Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Still unconvinced by the model's shade of blue. The prototype appears more of a greeny- blue, almost military blue, judging by the pictures (and my eyesight). It almost looks as if Bachmann have used Mainline freight blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I did a model of a Hornby VDA in this livery as 664, I will try and find my prototype pics of this van in Kent for RSE stores use. Spotted at Tonbridge West Yard several times in the 1990s. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted May 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 7, 2015 I always get excited when seeing a new wagon model in an attractive colour scheme but the trouble is that if you're trying to get your wagon weathered to look like the real life photos where it's inevitably faded and a bit battered, its normally easier to do a complete repaint in the faded/weather-beaten colours than to tone down the RTR colour scheme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Totally agree about fading. Many years ago Bachmann did an 08 in faded yellow/blue that looked superb. Just a shame that they don't seem to have repeated such a paint job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropTheTap Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Totally agree about fading. Many years ago Bachmann did an 08 in faded yellow/blue that looked superb. Just a shame that they don't seem to have repeated such a paint job. Agreed. There was also an example for the collector's club (08507 IIRC). They have a weathered one in their upcoming products but I can't decide if it has "proper" faded paint or a spray of dirt over the regular blue. I'm leaning towards the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 It was the collectors' club model that they did; the first BCC locomotive that I bought. I seem to recall that it took over a year to sell out back then which might be why they didn't repeat the faded look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2015 Totally agree about fading. Many years ago Bachmann did an 08 in faded yellow/blue that looked superb. Just a shame that they don't seem to have repeated such a paint job. I'm hoping that the current catalogue weathered 08818 in BR blue will be like that. But I imagine it's one thing going to those lengths for a Limited Edition, it might be asking too much for a normal production run. I would have bought the BCC one but at the time I was moving over to DCC and didn't fancy having to hard wire the decoder. I expected there to be another one along eventually...ha ha ha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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