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  1. I love the look of those Rob. Will these be for the new printer? As I’ve said before some of the detail looks very fragile (for a clumsy oaf like me!). How robust will this lower running/ foot boards be? Andy
  2. I’ve also been building a layout with working point rodding. This is the new, as yet nameless, O gauge layout of the East Surrey MRC which is based on a ‘Minories’ type track plan. The cranks are from DCC concepts, the stools are 3D printed by club member @woko, it’s 0.7mm wire and the levers are Gem which will be situated in the base of the signal box. A video of it working is here.
  3. My latest project is an O gauge J69. I didn’t know that I wanted one of these, but fellow club member, Rob (@Woko) decided to 3D print a body and was asking me about chassis options. I suggested following the example in 00 gauge if putting a 3D printed J69 body on a terrier chassis as the wheelbase and diameter is more or less identical. My hand then ‘slipped’ on ebay and I ended up with a O gauge Dapol Terrier for £155 which was a bit of a bargain! I loaned Rob the chassis to help him sort out the print to fit. In return for the suggestion and loan of my chassis, Rob very kindly printed me a body which I started on today. Here is the box of bits. I gave the body a sand down and then Halfords grey followed by filler primer. There were some diagonal lines after the grey primer but they seem to have reduced after the filler primer and I’m confident that after a sand down tomorrow it will be pretty smooth. Then I have the job of trying to work out where all the bits fit on!
  4. They look great Rob. I didn’t pay enough attention to the one you brought along last night as I was stressing about why my stock was misbehaving! But it’s a great start if what I hope will be many 7mm prints. Can’t wait for the GNR ones to give my C12 something prototypical to haul.
  5. I’ve now managed to find time to watch the video. Superb stuff as others have said. Those observation cars look the business…I’m going to have to model at least one! The rest of the train formation seems to be 2*TSO, 1*BSO and 1 * BSOT. Interesting that there was no First Class. Other trains I have seen from this era seem to convey 1st so I’m wondering whether the observation cars were regard as 1st. Does anyone know?
  6. Andy, I’ve just finished reading through your thread. It’s all inspiring stuff, so thanks for posting. As I’ve explained on Rob’s thread, I am currently a OO modeller of 1950s ER steam and diesel but I’m starting up in 0 gauge and am basing my 0 gauge layout on Glenfinnan. I’m starting in the 1980s as that is the era in which I fell in love with the line spending far too much of my university days in Scotland (which considering I was at Southampton uni was a long journey!) My idea is that it will be eventually be a ‘through the ages’ type of layout with trains from the 1930s until the day before sprinterisation as I don’t think much changed on the line over this period. As such your thread is very useful for me in filling in prototype details from my rusty memory. Like others have commented I don’t remember the observation saloons despite a lot of journeys in that period. Do we know which trains they worked? As for modelling them, they look similar in basic outline to the steel/ ply 1930s LNER tourist stock. So I would be tempted to use Ian Kirk kits and cut and shut them to suit. The kits are no longer available but often appear on ebay. I will try this in O gauge where, luckily, Ian’s kits are still available. Does anyone know of a coach drawing for either of these vehicles? You also mention class 20s working on FTW-MLG services. This is something I never experienced on the WHL (apart from 20045 paired with 37051 on the sleeper) but there are plenty of photos around. Do we know how frequently this happened and which service it tended to be on? Regards (another) Andy
  7. I hesitate to re-enter the fray on the old motor / gearbox debate but everyone else is so why not! My own feeling is that the motor gearbox is the easy bit of getting a sweet running chassis. It’s all the setting up of the chassis, coupling rods, pick ups and valve gear which seems to create problems. I’ve built many kits over the years and none of the kit built chassis run as well as a modern RTR loco to my intense frustration. They are just about good enough to use but not as sweet and smooth as I would like. I know it can be done as Tony shows week in week out, but I think that needs a lot of experience and/ or skill which I’m still learning. It is not a problem with the motor gearbox where I’ve tried DJH ready made boxes as well as many alternatives such as high level. That bit always seems to work fine. so I’m reluctant to spend the money on a new DJH box when I know that is the easy bit and I may waste it all on the difficult bits to come. For me, if I can find a RTR chassis which is close enough, I’ll always use that rather than try to make my own. Then I can enjoy building the body sure in the knowledge that it will work. I know that some might regard that as ‘cheating’ but surely it’s only one step on from using a ‘RTR’ motor gearbox?! I’d also say that it’s generally cheaper than buying a chassis, wheels and motor to kit build a chassis, especially if you can sell the body on ebay. Sorry to lower the tone! Andy
  8. Thanks Rob, That was so far back in my read through that I’d obviously forgotten about it! I did follow the links at the time which were well worth a read. I look forward to the ‘Earth Mover’ video. Andy
  9. Great pictures and thanks for inviting me to operate. I’ll hold you to that 37 promise!
  10. Another, rather different, question if I may. Can I ask you to elaborate on your coach formations? I note that the CWNs of the period show fairly similar formations of, typically BFK, TSOs and either a RMB or BSO(T). Whereas photos and your formations suggest rather more variety with BSK, SK and CKs also featuring and the BFK sometimes bring a mk2. Could you give a description of the different formations you use and, if possible, suggest any other sources of data on this? Many thanks Andy
  11. Hi Rob, Thanks for your thoughts on sound projects. I agree that the speaker is critical, but hopefully that will not be such an issue for me in O gauge. With regards to the recordings on the chip, I feel that with 37s (more than most other classes) there is a huge difference between one driven conservatively and one driven with typical West Highland thrash. The sound file I have on my sole 00 example is in the former camp and rather disappointing to my ears, so I’m looking for a proper thrash example with wheel slip. I’m more or less decided on the legomanbiffo project. Andy
  12. The rain on Saturday gave me a perfect excuse to stay in and paint. So I managed to get the second quad art to what I call the ‘measles’ stage. It will hopefully get the overall teak wash later today. I also did my OO gauge GNT BCK at the same time.
  13. I’ve now completed the circuit …just in time for winter! I’m pleased to report that the board clips (as in my 1st Sep post) conduct electricity very well. The voltage drop off from one side of the circuit to the other was from 12.04V to 12.01V which over c.20yards of track is pretty good. That was without doing up the rail joiners between boards but I will use them to improve running. Here is a video of my latest ‘toy’, a Heljan class 37 doing the complete circuit. The loco will be painted blue to match the coaches in due course - I could only find a green one left to buy!
  14. Next up was more a comment than a question. I note you were having problems with the power inrush on starting up. I have not experienced this with my NCE PowerCab (on my 00 layout) but I have had power drops such that certain locos or accessories don’t work properly. I solved this by adding a Tam Valley 5A booster but as I’m currently starting in O gauge I am quite worried about power requirements. So I bought one of the DCC Concepts Alpha Meters. I have found this very useful in understanding power requirements. On my OO layout I note the amp draw on startup is about 1.5 Amps dropping to about 1 Amp after a couple of minutes but with no trains running. I can isolate power districts in turn to understand which have the biggest power draw. The Alpha Meter won’t solve any problems but it does allow accurate diagnosis and in this game, I think that ‘knowledge is power’, so it might be worth investing in one if you’re still having any problems. As with many DCC Concepts products, they’re not cheap, but it is a nice piece of kit. No connection…just a satisfied customer. Regards Andy
  15. First question is about DCC sound for your 37s. You described the speaker and sound file arrangements for your 20s in some detail but not for the 37s….unless I missed it. it would be helpful to know whose sound projects you use in your 37s. A lot of people seem to like the legomanbiffo projects which I’m tempted by but I’m normally a Zimo user so, other things being equal, I’d rather stick with a Zimo supplier. Speaker wise, you seem to rate the EM2 which I could easily fit in in O gauge - could probably manage an EM3. Any others you particularly rate? Regards Andy
  16. Hi Rob, I’ve just finished wading my way through the 46 pages of your thread. It’s wonderful stuff and your layout is truly inspiring. It’s more like one of the American system layouts than anything usually seen in this country. Congratulations! I have built up a few questions which I largely resisted asking as I went through in case they had already been asked, so I will fire away now if that’s OK. Andy
  17. I’m continuing my tour through this thread and came to the exchange on class 27s on the WHL. My first and only experience of them was later in the week on that same trip in 1983 and it gives me an excuse to show another of my pictures if that trip! We stayed in Oban on the night of 12/8 arriving with 37081, so we were surprised to come out the following morning to be greeted with this sight on the 0740 to Glasgow. I seem to remember being a little disappointed at the time as I was (and still am) mainly an EE fan, but I enjoyed the run and I’m really pleased to have experienced it now. 27051 will be the 27 on my layout when Heljan release it.
  18. Given the weight of o gauge coaches, I doubt it would manage 30!
  19. Hi Rob and others, Thanks for the confirmation. I may just have to go earlier for my 37051, but it would be nice to put a Scottie dog on, so I may choose a different example. Heljan don’t seem to have done a skirtless split box yet and while I readily hack 4mm locos around, I’m more reluctant when they cost £500+! I don’t have my own WHL or photo thread, so I’ll dribble a few out on here if that’s OK. They all have to be scanned in from prints so it will take a few days. Regards Andy
  20. I’m slowly working my way through this fantastic thread and I’ve got to the pictures above of my favourite 37, 37051. I’m surprised by your assertion that she stayed with black dominos and buffer skirts until late 1984 as I have the picture below taken on my first trip to Mallaig on 8/8/83 which I’m 99% sure is 37051. I know that 37051 hauled me from Glasgow (with assistance from 20045 to Tulloch) and this is the return working although we caught the ferry to Kyle so I didn’t travel back with her. I'm converting my Heljan class 37 to 37051 and I’d like an excuse to leave her with skirts, so I’d be grateful if you could point me in the right direction for any evidence to support the late 1984 date as I’d love to be proved wrong! Ps. I have more photos from that trip if you’re interested. Andy
  21. I haven’t made much progress in finishing off the first half of the quad art but four days in a B&B gave me time to put together the sides fir the other half of the train. Here they are after sticking together and sorting out all the beading etc. and now in teak basecoat (aka Halfords filler primer). Regards Andy
  22. I think the V2 looks great but I shall decline for the time being as I refuse to pay over £200 for a RTR 00 loco. Call me tight if you like but the way things are going, if this sells well then the next one will be nearer £300. I make an exception for kits - I can’t build them quickly enough to seriously dent my wallet but buying RTR is just too easy! Andy
  23. I have just bought a Heljan class 37 and now need to add a sound chip. This will be my first O gauge diesel, although I have fitted a lot of kit built steam locos with Zimo MX645s with no problem. I thought I’d resurrect this thread rather than start a new one. I understand that the Heljan power draw is too high for something like a 645 and I probably need to go for a loksound XL or equivalent. My preference would be to use Zimo if possible as that’s what I have done for 90% of my sound chips so far and I like the active drive which Youchoos supply. So I’m thinking of using a Zimo MX696 or MX699. Heljan suggest using a loksound so am I setting myself up for problems in using a Zimo? And would this be a lot more difficult to fit than a Loksound? Do people see any other problems with the Zimo approach? Thanks in advance for any help. Andy
  24. It’s good Gilbert and certainly shows off your station buildings. But for me the best view is down trains departing taken from the bridge at the North end.
  25. I don’t know much about the Western, but I thought they were mainly passenger engines!
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