Ruston Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Afternoon all, I'm planning to have a coach on my layout for the use of men going to work at the pit. Does anyone know what the rules were regarding train brakes on such passenger trains? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2016 Afternoon all, I'm planning to have a coach on my layout for the use of men going to work at the pit. Does anyone know what the rules were regarding train brakes on such passenger trains? Unless was a specific local exemption all passenger trains on statutory railways were required to have a continuous brake following the 1889 Regulation of Railways Act This means that in effect any train running on an industrial line was not necessarily required to have a continuous brake (but in some cases such Railways were covered by their own Act of Incorporation which might make such a requirement). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Thanks, Stationmaster. I suppose the question really should be did any have continuous train brakes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2016 Thanks, Stationmaster. I suppose the question really should be did any have continuous train brakes? Should be if one is pedantic but you asked about 'train brakes' so it was quite understandable I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted April 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2016 Photos of 'paddy trains' at Talywain [vans], Cannock Chase and Ashington [old carriages] in the IA Industrial Steam colour album show no signs of the locos having vacuum brakes, so assume loco hand/steam brakes only and hand brakes in carriage guards vans. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Thanks, Dava. I won't bother fiting vac pipes to any of my engines in that case. I've got a brake van so that will do. Just need a 4-wheel coach now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 As industrial railways were often built on private land and without 'Light Railway Orders' or 'Acts of Parliament' and the trains were not public, they were usually exempt from the requirements for continuous brakes. Here's a one coach train on the West Cannock system using an ex-LNWR bird cage brake coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Note also that the tail lamp isn't at the rear! The Highland Railway sold off a few of its four wheeler ribbed sided thirds to a mile somewhere down south, so you can pick your coach from anywhere... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Avonside - that LNWR example must have replaced an earlier 6 wheel ramshackle pair - some interesting info here: http://mikemorant.smugmug.com/keyword/cannock/i-SmcV3Kw I wonder if the LNWR coach also survived? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Have a look at the Chasewater Railway blog (can't link at the present) lots of info on there about the colliery railways in the area Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 The NCB Talywain - Blaenserchan miners train was, as mentioned above, an assortment of former LMS and GWR vans purchased from BR. . They were referred to locally as 'the carriages'. . The Pontardulais - Graig Merthyr system used a former GWR coach. This was replaced in the late 1960s by a rake of vans purchased from BR and which were numbered by the NCB as 70121, 70125, 70127 all ex-LMS vans, possibly Dia 1664 and 70197 an ex SR Banana Van. . Both the Talywain and Graig Merthyr vans had no visible external brake levers, the brakes were apparently set from inside the vans. . I am unaware of any NCB locos in South Wales at least fitted with train brakes for working Paddy Trains. . This subject has been covered before at the following locations:- http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/31388-ncb-south-wales-area-paddy-trains/ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92707-ncb-miners-trains/ Brian R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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