lmsforever Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I am watching a dvd filmed on the ECML north of Edinburgh and am wondering why the line approaching Montrose from the south is still single line .This must be a bottleneck and I would have thought that the LNER would have doubled it when they were in control of the route failing that BR would have had thon the books I would have thought ,so anybody know why its still single? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamysandy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The section between Usan and Montrose is single track because there are two viaducts in the section which were built by the North British Railway as part of the new main line built between Arbroath and Kinnaber Junction when the first Tay Bridge was built in the 1870s. The North Viaduct is a girder structure spanning part of the Montrose Basin a tidal lagoon forming part of the Estuary of the South Esk and is a rebuild of a viaduct built by Sir Thomas Bouch but condemned on completion. Reconstruction would be a costly and difficult undertaking so it has never been undertaken. Up to 1967 trains for Perth ran via Forfar so it was only services between Dundee and Aberdeen which crossed this section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) This must be a bottleneckGiven the section is so short it rarely causes a problem Equally, the block sections between Dundee and Aberdeen typically mean the closest a train in the same direction will be 10 minutes, so this gives a 5 minute frequency in both directions However, the timetables rarely had such frequencies with typically up to three trains in each direction per hour Sprinterisation changed that, with up to four trains in each direction per hour Priority used to be given to northbound services, as they would usually be approaching at speed Additional allowance was therefore given to southbound services, and could often be sitting at Montrose for up to 5 minutes, but still departing on time Edited November 23, 2017 by mjkerr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberbrothock Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Given the section is so short it rarely causes a problem Equally, the block sections between Dundee and Aberdeen typically mean the closest a train in the same direction will be 10 minutes, so this gives a 5 minute frequency in both directions However, the timetables rarely had such frequencies with typically up to three trains in each direction per hour Sprinterisation changed that, with up to four trains in each direction per hour Priority used to be given to northbound services, as they would usually be approaching at speed Additional allowance was therefore given to southbound services, and could often be sitting at Montrose for up to 5 minutes, but still departing on time The direct line from Arbroath to Kinnaber Junction via Montrose was all originally single track and the line was doubled in stages latterly by the LNER, but, as has been said the two viaducts over the Esk and Inchbraoch island were too expensive to tackle and have just about managed to cope up until now. Incidentally the steel viaduct over the river is currently being refurbished as it had developed a nasty sag at one of the piers - hopefully now rectified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2018 If you have any sense, you stay single in Montrose...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 HI All You used to be able to leave Arbroath and avoid Montrose to get to Kinnaber junction, Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted August 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2018 Hi folks, Recently on a trip to Aberdeen and back, and got held going northbound just before the line singles; going south we were let through while a northbound train was held wher we had been. Seems there are timetable issues. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 The Luftwaffe damaged the viaduct during WWII, the current refurbishment works are uncovering a number of areas where bullets and shrapnel had penetrated the steelwork https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/angus-mearns/667804/ww2-bombing-damage-unearthed-during-montrose-viaduct-refurbishment/ Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just the other day, Usan appeared on the board at Queen Street to much amusement, hopefully pic attached 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I would say that the chances of widening the cutting, and doing anything at all with Rossie viaduct and south Esk viaduct, would be non existent. More often than not I'm held northbound at Usan than south in the station Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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