cctransuk Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Scanning my collection of railway slides has thrown up a few European and the odd Asian slide. Firstly, three photos taken by my brother in April 1967, whilst on a French exchange visit; I know nothing about the location, I'm afraid. Three photos taken by me during July 1967, at and near Quiberon in Brittany. Again, some of my brother's photos, this time from April 1969; of what and where I cannot say ..... ..... May 1972; ..... April 1974. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Photos of the ex-PO steeple cabs (BB1280) aren't common (apart from BB1283 preserved at Mulhouse), the class being withdrawn in 1967. In view of their last allocations on Paris South-West suburban (Austerlitz and Orsay), the withdrawn locos may have been pictured while passing Ivry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Photos of the ex-PO steeple cabs (BB1280) aren't common (apart from BB1283 preserved at Mulhouse), the class being withdrawn in 1967. In view of their last allocations on Paris South-West suburban (Austerlitz and Orsay), the withdrawn locos may have been pictured while passing Ivry. I believe that they were in a scrap line (broken windows); possibly near Tours? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 45163 was formerly WD339, an LMS 8F that was despatched new to Turkey in 1941. It was still in use in May 1976. This information is from Heavy Goods Engines of the War Department, vol. 2, by J.W.P. Rouledge. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_gauge_novice Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The May 1972 pictures are in Greece. A Ma class 2-10-2 monster steam loco is shown. Whereabouts I cannot say. Cheers Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Scanning my collection of railway slides has thrown up a few European and the odd Asian slide. Firstly, three photos taken by my brother in April 1967, whilst on a French exchange visit; I know nothing about the location, I'm afraid. 04_010 small.jpg 04_011 small.jpg 04_012 small.jpg Three photos taken by me during July 1967, at and near Quiberon in Brittany. 07_006 small.jpg 07_007 small.jpg 07_008 small.jpg Again, some of my brother's photos, this time from April 1969; of what and where I cannot say ..... 04_010 small.jpg 04_011 small.jpg 04_014 small.jpg ..... May 1972; 05_010 small.jpg 05_011 small.jpg ..... April 1974. 04_001 small.jpg 04_002 small.jpg 04_003 small.jpg 04_004 small.jpg 04_005 small.jpg 04_006 small.jpg Regards, John Isherwood. Thanks very much for posting these John. Should you have anything else of Quiberon I'd love to see it. It's a classic terminus for modelling as it's fairly small but had a range of rapides and not just from Paris, local workings, a traffic in seafood and an interesting arrangement of its goods yard with one end of a loop crossing the main passenger platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The April 1969 shots are an SNCF 141R on shed, somewhere in France, followed by an ÖBB 2060 diesel hydraulic shunter (2060.07) and a class 1670 electric. The latter tended to work in and around the Tirol. In the Turkish batch, 56030 was a standard TCDD 2-10-0 built by Henschel, 45507 a former Oriental Railways (CO) 2-8-0 built by Schneider and the tank loco a 3311 class 0-6-0T by by Nohab. I don't think the top picture (crossing the bridge) is Turkish (Indian?) and can't see enough detail to identify the diesel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 I don't think the top picture (crossing the bridge) is Turkish (Indian?) .... Correct. Regards, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thanks very much for posting these John. Should you have anything else of Quiberon I'd love to see it. It's a classic terminus for modelling as it's fairly small but had a range of rapides and not just from Paris, local workings, a traffic in seafood and an interesting arrangement of its goods yard with one end of a loop crossing the main passenger platform. Nothing more in the slides I think. Somewhere (!!) there are a couple of steam era prints - these hopefully will surface later when I've finished with the slides and get onto the negs. Regards, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
station cat Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Fascinating pictures John, thanks for posting them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 My scanning of 1979 slides has not thrown up many slides in this category; however, the first two were taken, (I think), by my father during a visit to the USA - can anyone identify the subject? One solitary railway photo taken during a holiday on the Algarve, Portugal. (Fear not, fans of Portuguese railways; a lot of metre gauge steam, and a little diesel, is shortly to be forthcoming)! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hi John, Your American loco is an MBTA FP10, I believe - see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBTA_Commuter_Rail and here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ck4049/5396509956/ I'm certainly looking forward to more Algarve photos, I'm sure it was holidays here that got me into American locos, Alco's in particular! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Beat me to it, John E. - I got delayed trying to spell "Massachusetts Bay Transport Authority". http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locopicture.aspx?id=114633 Now at Cape Cod Railroad (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37713-f-units-forever/?p=404900). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 July 1980, Normandy & Brittany Lannion Lannion Plounerin Scrignac, former Reseau Breton Plounerin Morlaix Morlaix Morlaix Morlaix Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Uh, very nice pix! Thanx for posting Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 In June 1981 we set out on what has always been my most blatant railway safari disguised as a family holiday - thank goodness for my tolerant wife, son and daughter !! After the success of the Tharsis Railway jaunt into Spain, when we were supposed to be on holday in Portugal, I started to wonder what operational steam might remain in that part of Europe that was conducive to nominally beach holidays; the answer was the Duoro Valley metre gauge lines. At that time, the lines still using steam were the Tamega, Corgo and Tua lines, all of which ran up side valleys off the River Douro. We booked accomodation on the coast, just north of Oporto and, apart from pretty strong winds most of the time, a good time was had on the beach. However, metre gauge railways were the real purpose of the trip - especially steam. The suburban and coastal metre gauge lines out of Oporto had all been dieselised; (they've now been converted again to electric light rail). I had optimistic visions of visiting all three Douro Valley lines, using our hired car, but the state of the roads, (almost exclusively poorly maintained setts), gave me some concern as to whether out-and-back trips to the more remote lines might not be possible in a day. My fears proved to be well-founded, and it was only possible to visit the Tamega line. That said, such was the feast of unspoilt steam - and Mallet powered - that I felt only the slightest regrets at missing the other two lines. Anyway, to the photos :- Guimaraes (metre gauge) Oporto trams Estacao de Sao Bento, Oporto (broad gauge) Estacao da Trindade, Oporto (metre gauge) The initial foray into the Douro Valley took place on Sunday, 28th June 1981. We arrived at Livracao, the interchange between the Douro Valley broad gauge line and the Tamega Valley metre gauge line in late afternoon, expecting to find the yard deserted. Far from it ! Metre gauge 0-4-4-0T Mallets, E163 & E165, were having their fires damped down, and a decent rake of ancient passenger coaches had obviously seen very recent use. All this on a line that had had its passenger service dieselised for years!! It transpired that we had just missed an intensive fiesta-day service that had required the use of anything that was capable of carrying passengers !! Moreover, the even worse news was that the only steam for the foreseeable future would be the daily pick-up freight !! However, we did find out that the freight train conveyed a single coach for the use of the guard, but no-one could say if passengers would be permitted. Nothing venture, nothing gained ! On the Monday morning, VERY early, the family was reluctantly roused, packed into the car, and endured the bone-shaking and not inconsiderable journey back to Livracao from the coast. Our arrival coincided with the arrival of an eastbound passenger train on the broad gauge. When the flurry of activity was over, I approached the ticket office and asked to purchase two adult and two child returns for the full length of the line to Arso de Baulhe. No problem, the next diesel passenger train would leave in half an hour or so. Ah - but we wanted to travel on the steam train. Not possible - the steam train was a freight, and carried no passengers. But I understand that the train will have a carriage for the guard. Well - yes - but it is not suitable for passengers; and besides, the freight stops all over the place and shunts wagons - it'd take all day to get there and back !! Great ! That'll do nicely !! But the diesel train is very modern and comfortable - the steam train carriage has wooden seats; you'd be VERY uncomfortable ! No problem - we'd enjoy the journey ! (Rolls eyes and implies that the English are mad). OK, it's not really allowed but if you're sure? Sorted !! So, armed with our tickets, onto the platform to wait the arrival of our train. In due course, E163 backed the train into the platform, and we were delighted to find that the coach that we were to occupy was directly behind the loco. The family however, were less that thrilled with the tram-style, flip-over, wooden slatted seats !! Heavy application of a large timber 'persuader' seemed to be required to get the loco brake cylinder to release, and then we were off !! Arriving at Amarante, some considerable shunting was required to drop off and add wagons. Then off again - a truly magical journey through totally unspoilt scenery, stopping off regularly at pristine stations to drop off goods, Arrival at Arco de Baulhe, the end of the line, was timed most fortuitously for lunchtime. All concerned, including the train crew, retired to the local taverna for ham rolls and (opaque) white wine; (which I suspect was actually the fermenting grape must, given its frothy nature and inebriating effect) !! Some more shunting now ensued, which also involved removing a preserved coach from the old loco shed, now marked as being the home of the locomotive and coaches of the Historic Train. The Historic Locomotive, E151, was not in steam. The preserved coach was duly added to our train. . My photographic activities had not gone unnoticed, and the by now 'mellow' loco crew invited me onto the footplate for the return journey. Suffice to say that the downhill run was 'spirited' and, as no shunting was involved, we made good time. That is, apart from the crew and I being called down from the footplate at one level-crossing to sample the crossing-keeper's collection of 'home brew' wine. Naturally, the train was left blocking the crossing, and no-one paid any attention to the build-up of cars or the hooting of horns !! Crossing some of the sharply curved viaducts, comprising little more than two girders to carry the rails, was more than a little hair-raising !! A return visit was made to Livracao on the late afternoon of 1st July, to witness the return of the daily freight train, this time hauled by E165. Just as we were leaving Livracao, an Oporto-bound train passed through on the broad gauge. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Park Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Excellent photos, my only trip on the line was from Livracao to Amarante and back by railcar in 1971. Must have missed the freight working. However managed a footplate ride on the Corgo Line as well as the only daily steam working on the Sabor Line. Please post more photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2015 That steam return trip looks quite magical. What a great experience. Lovely photo's of a long gone activity sadly. I wonder, when I go to Portugal's south coast, west of Faro, next week, if I will see any railway activity at all? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 That steam return trip looks quite magical. What a great experience. Lovely photo's of a long gone activity sadly. I wonder, when I go to Portugal's south coast, west of Faro, next week, if I will see any railway activity at all? Phil We have, until this year, always stayed at Burgau; (west of Lagos). This year we're going to stay near Aljezur, just round the corner from Sagres, on the west coast. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not sure what our place is called. It is about half an hour west of Faro. Staying with friends who want us to explore the area as it is so beautiful. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12, 2015 That steam return trip looks quite magical. What a great experience. Lovely photo's of a long gone activity sadly. I wonder, when I go to Portugal's south coast, west of Faro, next week, if I will see any railway activity at all? Phil 15 years ago we stayed at Lagos over New Year and did a trip up the branch to Tunes. The latter was probably one of the weirdest places I have ever come across anywhere on a railway - desktop computers in the offices while the signalling was right out of the 19th century - and fairly early on in the history of railways in that century! All the point were hand worked by a couple of blokes running up & down setting the roads and then padlocking the points, the signals were operated from a sort of 'contraption' about 15 feet high just outside the office with the computers and there was no interlocking at all. just off one end of the station there was a hand worked level crossing which appeared to be operated in a complete vacuum by an old woman who seemed to take no notice at all of what other folk were doing or even if any trains were coming. All in all it was a total delight, and rather heart stopping, to watch it everything going on in perfect desynchronisation. Alas looking on Google Maps the level crossing appears to have been reduced to a foot crossing and all the points now look to have point machines - modernisation has clearly improved safety, and completely ruined what was absolutely fascinating to watch. It's great area Phil - we went down to Cape StVincent which is well worth visiting, had Sunday lunch in a nearby town and as the locals were eating in the same place we obviously made the right choice, had a meal in a 'restaurant' at the roadside on the way to what was reputedly the highest mountain in the area (in Portugal?) which was superbly cooked and you knew they had no problems in the kitchen as it was full of sleeping cats. The place to avoid in our experience was Faro - highly tourist orientated and the worst food we came across in the area but the unspoilt country areas are smashing - and if being driven anywhere I would suggest keeping your eyes closed or definitely averted from what is happening on the roads - incredibly bad driving (even compared with UK standards). Sorry for going OT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 It's great area Phil - we went down to Cape StVincent which is well worth visiting, had Sunday lunch in a nearby town and as the locals were eating in the same place we obviously made the right choice, had a meal in a 'restaurant' at the roadside on the way to what was reputedly the highest mountain in the area (in Portugal?) which was superbly cooked and you knew they had no problems in the kitchen as it was full of sleeping cats. Been going to the western Algarve since the mid-70s - it's changed, but not been spoiled. Have a wander round the back streets of Lagos - and don't miss the fish market, or the produce market on Saturdays; (livestock in wicker baskets, etc., etc.). Going west from Lagos you pass Praia da Luz - avoid - but visit Burgau and Salema. Lots of hidden beaches (and beach retaurants) between here and Sagres / Cabo Sao Vicente. Turn the corner and head north - lots of wild Atlantic beaches and hidden coves up to Aljezur - where we are heading at the end of August. Well worth exploring inland too. Enjoy. Regards, John Isherwood. (Bought my 2015 Euros today - at 1.39 to the pound sterling; better than last year's 1.20)!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2015 Thanks all. I doubt I'll be able to 'swing' any railway related 'exploration', however, the unspoilt areas have always attracted me wherever I've been/am going (even in GB!!). Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 June 1983 Algarve, Portugal August 1985 Dordogne & St. Gilles / Croix de Vie, France Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 August 1986 Villefranche (Southern Pyrenees, France) Le P'tit Train Jaune (metre-gauge rack, SNCF) August 1988 Northern Pyrenees, France (I think) Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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