bike2steam Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I know, it's probably easier to find a needle in a hay-stack, and I thought I might get more attention here than in the Classified-Wanted list. But I'm in the middle of my latest project, a model of 8F 48169 as it was between 1955 & 1961, which means it running on WD driving wheels, so I've got this loco body, and tender of a Hornby 8F, and a somewhat battle worn Bachmann WD with a decent chassis - so another oddity begins to take shape. Now I'm after any pics, or copies of pics, of 48169 during that period. Yes I know there are slight differences in wheel spacings, but not big enough to make it that noticeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The 8FLocomotive Society (8233) did an article on this, but it was some years back. I'll wade through the back numbers to see if I can find it, but this MIGHT TAKE TIME! Or you could drop an e-mail to their Editor: blackeight8f@yahoo.co.uk - might b quicker. Just don't tell him I sent you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted February 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2015 Following this with interest, would fit in nicely on Summat Colliery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Good news and bad news: I found the attached in Issue No. 108, but you'll see this is a continuation from Issue No. 107, of which I no longer have a copy. It should though allow you to narrow your search a bit. AND YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL THE SAME.doc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 What's possibly odder is the webbing between the pony wheel spokes. Those surely didn't come from a WD. The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well spotted Nim, I've never seen anything like those before. The second photo seems to show conventional pony wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hi, I looked at this 8F out of interest some time ago and did some research which I've just looked out. It was noted that in 1947 8169 had wheels that 'resembled' WD wheels and were possibly in regard to balancing trials, (some info in the Wild Swan 'Locomotive Profiles' on the 8F). The wheels are slightly different from WD ones regarding the size and shape of the holes, at layout distance one wouldn't spot it but the balance weights which were cast in were different and had holes drilled in them which were variously filled with lead. These wheelsets later appeared on 48403 around 1962 till withdrawal. Also see second picture which is of 48403 and clearly showing a different very odd shape driven wheel balance weight.....(balancing trials?) As mentioned, the other odd thing was the pony truck wheel which was, IIRC quite unique being cast with webbed spokes. I did wonder whether these wheelsets were cast iron as opposed to steel as per the WD 1st,2nd and 4th drivers hence the webbed spokes for strength, a possibility being just after WW2. Hope that helps Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Many thanks for your help, each, and all, just to let you know, the chassis from a s/h WD became this;- which went under this;- yet to finish the detailing, still with a temporary loco to tender coupling, and to test run on the layout, which will allow a finished coupling to be fitted to suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hi Paul, looks the part with the double slide bars and all. One thing I forgot to mention which doesn't look too bad on your version is the shorter wheelbase of the WD in relation to the 8F, only 4mm though. Only remembered yesterday as I was checking my CAD drawings of the coupling rods for the WD and the 8F which are going to the etchers this week. The rods are very similar apart from the wheelbase. All the best, Dave Franks Just read your original post and you mention the wheelbase, sorry, must re-read other peoples posts before answering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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