cctransuk Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) First take twelve Tri-ang Hornby Blue Circle cement hopper wagons. Discard the chassis, and cut off the bodies immediately above floor level. File and sand off the raised logo detail from the body mouldings; and carefully thin down the vertical support ribs by filing. The Tri-ang Hornby bodies are 5mm. short, to fit a standard chassis, so they must be 'stretched'. They come in two parts - the lower and upper parts of the covered hopper; they're not glued together but simply pull apart. The lower part can be stretched by cutting off-centre by 2.5mm., and gluing the two longer parts from two mouldings together - use an upper part as a 'splint' whilst the joint dries to ensure correct alignment. When you run out of lower bodies to cut 'nearly in half', you can use the shorter parts, with an additional 5mm. section cut from an offcut. The cuts can be anywhere between the inner vertical ribs. Stretching the top part of the moulding is only a little more complex; two cuts are necessary to start with, 2.5mm. either side of the central walkway. The central section, combined with the ends cut from another upper moulding, hard up against the ends of the walkway, can be glued together using a lower moulding as a splint. As you go on, and depending how many scale length CEMFLOs you are building, you can start to use the offcuts to build up full length mouldings. With a little thought, I managed to produce eleven full length bodies from twelve short mouldings! This sounds complex - it isn't, and the photo below should illustrate what I have written. That is the most intricate bit done - you now have scale length bodies; add some weight before finally sticking the upper and lower mouldings together. The rest is straight-forward; build scale length chassis from styrene sections, sheet, etched axleguards etc., cast springs, axleboxes, buffers, etc., and fit 12mm. disc wheels in brass pinpoint bearings. Don't forget the lower part of the hopper and the discharge equipment. The completed models were cleaned-up and primed - this is where I had a problem !! I used standard Halfords grey primer, which etched the plastic and made what had been invisible sanding scratches VERY noticeable !! Lesson learned - used Halfords plastic primer on plastic models !! I then applied Silver Wheels spray paint; touched in with Phoenix satin black where appropriate; added my transfers; and sealed with Klear varnish. The photo below was taken during the finishing process ..... ..... and these after the fitting of brake handwheels, and just awaiting couplings. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited May 20, 2017 by cctransuk 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 These look very good John - many thanks for posting photos of your work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Looking good John. I too have a box of yellow and grey Cemflo wagons that I have wanted to re-work for a long time. Now you have given some info on how to modify and extend the tank parts maybe I will have a go myself and do wagons with both types of suspensions with the differing strengthening plates on the solebars to model them in service in the early 1980s before they were withdrawn. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Looking good John. I too have a box of yellow and grey Cemflo wagons that I have wanted to re-work for a long time. Now you have given some info on how to modify and extend the tank parts maybe I will have a go myself and do wagons with both types of suspensions with the differing strengthening plates on the solebars to model them in service in the early 1980s before they were withdrawn. Cheers Paul Paul. The links below may assist :- http://www.wizardmodels.co.uk/images/51lcomp/phsbrc040.jpg http://www.wizardmodels.co.uk/images/51lcomp/brc025.jpg http://www.wizardmodels.co.uk/images/51lcomp/brc041.jpg http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshire%20models%20and%20supplies%20website_111.htm http://colincraig4mm.co.uk/#/hand-wheels/4532593494 (CC06D) Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thanks John I will start to gather some tools and those parts together and have a go at making a rake suitable for the later years working out of Earle's Sidings, Hope. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I currently have irons in the fire for; Solebar strengthening plates. Currently at test etch stage. Vac cylinders. Looking at pictures stage. Correct axlebox/springs. Adapting an existing set of castings stage. Looking also at the possibilities of casting a correct body tub. Just need to find time to get to Darlington for a measure o thon for all the other bits.! Mike. Edited for update. Edited April 29, 2015 by Enterprisingwestern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hi these look really good and I'm having a bash at making a few of these myself but I'm a little unsure of which w irons to buy. As some of the items are from wizard models would the comet models br pattern w irons do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hi these look really good and I'm having a bash at making a few of these myself but I'm a little unsure of which w irons to buy. As some of the items are from wizard models would the comet models br pattern w irons do? So long as they are described as BR Plate type, you should be OK - I think that I used MJT's version. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ta! Great thread........I've been buying a few of these from Chris's Crafts in Plimufff, usually about £3 a pop. They are in the rainy day box, along with other bits and bobs to eventually 'sort out'! I must admit, I wasn't aware of the under scale body......until now! Cut and shut seems to be the way..........just need a rainy day to try the 1st one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 At great risk of coming across as stupid are the buffers the oleo type? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 At great risk of coming across as stupid are the buffers the oleo type? They are indeed - but there are LOTS of different OLEO buffers - make sure you get the right ones. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 I've been looking it looks like a minefield. The comet w irons are no good so it looks like the mjt ones for me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshiremodelsandsupplieswebsite_118.htm Would these be the right buffers for the cemflo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshiremodelsandsupplieswebsite_118.htm Would these be the right buffers for the cemflo I used BP04. Regards, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted January 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2016 Thank you I did look at those as well they all look so similar! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 More victims anyone? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hornby-READYMIX-BLUE-CIRCLE-CEMENT-WAGONS-X-3-GOOD-COND-UNBOXED-OO-GAUGE-UN-/252840839388?hash=item3ade7d08dc:g:e24AAOSwc-tY4IdL Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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