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Six page article about Bailey Gate milk traffic by Brian Macdermott and Peter Smith in The S&D Telegraph No. 38 (SDRHT mag) which arrived through my letter box today. It doesn't answer the creamery siding propulsion question originally posed but has plenty of other interesting stuff.

There’s a fine article in SDRT Bulletin 129 by S&D guard Bernard Ware about the 20.25 “Perisher”. It lists the following vehicles: cattle truck, gangwayed brake, general utility van, parcels and miscellaneous van, fitted van, stove R, special cattle van, horse box, brake van, syphon, and covered carriage truck. It was generally a bigger train at the start of the week, the Jan 63 week quoted having 17,15,15,11 and 9 vehicles Monday to Friday. I saw it twice from the 19.05 Bath to Bournemouth train. On Monday 10 August 64 it had no fewer than 22 vehicles behind 73052 at Wincanton. I had earlier seen 75073 light at Evercreech and would speculate that it would have assisted 73052 from there to Binegar, probably with more vehicles from the branch. That would be a fine sight to see or model! On Wednesday 28 July 65 it had 7 vehicles behind 80039 just north of Templecombe, probably a victim of WR re-routing, but still hanging on in there in the S&D’s last summer. I don’t recall seeing any pictures of the “Perisher” but will keep a look out. There weren’t any with the article which might mean there aren’t any to be found. Back to 9Fs for a moment. I had forgotten that Bath did have a 9F – 92214 – in 1964, shown in the last of Ivo Peters’ series. So the class could have been used on the freights mentioned before from 1960 to 1964.

Hi, Try the following: http://www.sdjr.net/locolist.html 31 classes of non S&D steam locos listed. You should not be short of scope! Regards to all. Tim.

Congratulations on August’s Somerset and Dorset issue withits inspirational layouts and information about the prototype. Chris, you were a bit too restrictive in saying on page 56that “9Fs were never used on goods trainsâ€. They did work the 20.10 up freight from Poole to Bath, a working whichwas part of one of Bath MPD’s daily passenger diagrams. In August 1963, 9Fs 92220 and 92224 were usedon these diagrams. 92220 must have workedthis train on 26th August. Isaw it working south that day on the 16.13 from Evercreech Junction to Bournemouth and working southagain the next morning on the 09.03 Bristol to Bournemouth train, so it musthave worked northwards somehow and the only other train was hauled by astandard 4. The two 9Fs were used onBath’s diagrams right through that week and probably worked the 20.10 on fourdays, standard 5s being in charge on the other two days. The only photographof this train I know of is one I took myself a year later when 73092 wasin charge. It seems unlikely that anyonewould have photographed it headed by a 9F but I would love to see one! The 02.40 down mail from Bath to Poole was also part of theBath diagrams and 9Fs would have hauled these probably for four of the six daysthat week. This used to arrive in Pooleat about 7am and so was even more difficult to photograph than the up freight. It consisted of a short parcels train on thethree occasions I saw it at Poole. I would speculate that these two trains would have seenregular 9F use during the four summers (1960 to 1963) that they were allocatedto Bath. So S&D modellers doing Midford or elsewhere should notbe totally restricted from using 9Fs on freight, though I might just bemotivated to take issue if the freight looked to be one of the Bath toEvercreech or Midsomer Norton workings! I wonder if 9Fs ever worked the heavy perishables train(20.25 up from Templecombe) which usually had a Bath loco. That would be a fine sight on a model.

Thanks Ian. Hope I get used to these things with a little practice. Tim.

Stephen, Your offer of a few copies of the shots sounds tempting and valuable for my attempt at reproducing Templecombe Lower. Forgive my ignorance and newness to RMweb. I presume that a PM is a personal message; what and how do I send one to you please? Many thanks. Tim.

An immediate response from Dave Smith at Midland RailwayCentre models. He could not confirm thatit is definitely a Cowans Sheldon turntable but things are of course not assimple as that. There were a fewmanufacturers about at the time and those companies did vary their product suchthat details changed from one example to another. The topic would seem to be under researchedand there are very few people about who would be likely to contest a modeller’schoice of details. The MRC kit looks from the website pic to bepretty close to the Templecombe example and I don’t think there would beanything else closer available without a very time consuming scratch buildingjob! Dave expects the kit to be readymid-July. Cheers. Tim.

Thanks Duncan. The best picture I can find in my collection of S&D books is on p39 of S&D Files No. 2, though there is no sign of any builders plate that I can see. I note that the Midland Railway Centre's website (http://www.metalsmith.co.uk/4mmscaleCowansSheldonPre-Groupingturntable.htm) has an email contact address. I will send a photo to them and ask if its a Cowans Sheldon and when they expect their kit to be ready if it is indeed the right one. Regards. Tim.

Templecombe's turntable was always stated as being 50 feet in diameter, frustratingly just too small for a 7F or the standard 4-6-0s. Does anyone know if it was a Cowans and Sheldon turntable? Would the appropriate Midland Railway Centre kit be the best one to use at 4mm scale?