great central

Too right after the behavior of some people last night

Just seen my son's new tee shirt, one of several he brought back from holiday. It says 'I'm nor arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right!'

No great losses there, mostly nasty little foreign cars:)

There is a thread somewhere debating this very subject, tried a search but it doesn't come up. The common viewpoint seems to be that a loco exists or ceases to exist according to it's frames. A new loco exists from the point in time that the frames are erected and ceases to exist once the frames have been cut. I know that locos have been known to have replacement frames in the past though...................

Plenty on the first visit but nothing much on the second

Should have remembered that there's also a GUV at the back of Eastcroft depot, what used to be the infrastructure depot but now incorporated into the EMT depot

I'm on BP meds, sometimes feel like you describe, today I've been absolutely buzzing and still going. Really should go to bed got to be up at 04.30

Hi Phil, sorry to hear you're not feeling great. I don't really like winter but that said I don't think I suffer with it like others, biggest thing for me nowadays is I really feel the cold. Maybe it's because I've lost weight recently, deliberaty I might add. What I tended to find was when I worked a 'normal hours' job I never saw my home in daylight, found that really depressing, now working early shifts I'm up and out usually sometime around 05.00 or earlier and done a decent stint by the time it gets light, so I see the sun rise (if it ain't cloudy). I have some very good friends at work and spend all day with the public, most of whom are great and I really enjoy myself. Late shifts aren't so great but then again sometimes I don't start until it's dark so still have the daylight. I've never had a flu jab, despite being in the at risk category on two counts, seen too many people who have had one and felt terrible afterwards. I try to eat healthily, having had a heart attack 6 (or is it 7?) years ago. I'm firmly convinced that food can make a difference, I have a couple of small oranges and a banana for breakfast when I'm hungry, has been as late as 2 in the afternoon but usually between 11 and 12, followed by a salad some time later in the day, although I'm not averse to something warm this time of year. Whenever I have a break I usually set off on a walk somewhere, round Lincoln today, keeps things moving. As for modelling mojo, that pretty much got up and left at least 5 years ago, but I do feel a slight return at times. That does make me feel down sometimes but others it doesn't worry me unduly. As for advice, I don't know if I can offer much more than has been said already. If you can get out is there a bus service nearby? If you've got a bus pass just get on and go, won't cost but it's out and about, promise yourself a reward of some kind. A good one for me is when I'm at my caravan in Norfolk I walk about 3-4 miles to have a (small) cooked breakfast, even doing it by bus there's still the reward element. A decent cooked breakfast can still count towards your 5 a day! Last thought: it's only a couple of weeks now to the shortest day so from then on it's getting lighter

There used to be a grounded Mk1 coach in Looms' scrapyard at Spondon near Derby. No idea if it's still there but it had been there so long it was still in maroon livery

No doubt the rest are still tearing along the canal towpath scattering walkers in all directions!

In Nottingham there are deliberate policies to dissuade people from driving into the city centre, they have recently completed a multi-million pound cycle route from the west side of the city which has made what was a two lane in each direction main road into a single lane bottleneck. There are also a good many sets of what I call PYO (p*ss you off) traffic lights that change than for no other reason than to slow you down or stop you. If I am on an early or late turn it takes about 25 minutes to drive in or out with minimal traffic, if I try to drive in for a middle turn starting anywhere between 7.30 and 10.00 it takes anything up to 90 minutes. For those I can drive to my nearest station and use the train so long as I'm in the car park by about 08.00 or it is full. The first bus from near my house won't get me into Nottingham much before 8.30, to get an earlier one means at least a 30 minute walk.

I tend to agree with this, watching old film of trains gives some idea of the kind of speed we should be looking for on models in my opinion. Far too often I see layouts seemingly operating to show how slow their trains can go. This is often the case with post steam era layouts I think. One I watched a while ago I wanted to tell the operators to get a move on. Their trains approached a station along a main line at snails pace, and left the same way. In my experience that is not always the way it happens, braking is left almost as late as possible, allowing for speed limits obviously, and acceleration is usually pretty smart as well, especially some of the most modern powerful units.

Saw this in Lincoln earlier,

I would have been in the throng on the platform, I have a couple of slides somewhere from the day I think, also the spotting notes from the rest of the day. Edit: I was born at home about half a mile from the GC at New Basford, north of Nottingham, could easily hear the trains at night.

Most areas have their own localised form of greeting as well as variations on language. In these parts a familiar greeting is 'Ayupmedook' On the railway, 'Yaright' is pretty universal, not enquiring necessarily about anyones health. In the same way 'See ya later' is the regular version of goodbye, even though you almost certainly wouldn't see the same person again that day or perhaps even for some considerable time.

Mine is the first model in this thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/107801-warts-nall/ As I said at the time I sent it for a spin round Deepcar and it worked well, given that it quite likely hadn't seen the light of day since we moved here 30 years ago

Radcliffe looks very rural in those pictures now all surrounded by housing. I'll be stopping there before dawn tomorrow

And now possibly in the way if HS2 I understand?

Agreed the locos look scruffy but appear to be in good order mechanically, working hard yet few if any steam leaks visible

Yes it was wired with some very simple and substantial overhead built up from welding rod because scratch built cross arm pans went straight up when de-wired. Also a couple of locos were designed to only work from the overhead like those on High Gill which went before. It didn't get in the way particularly, you soon get used to it, having worked layouts with OHLE for around 25 years I simply make allowances automatically. That said, any re born Carstairs is not really likely to have the fiddle yard wired

Amazing how a few words can spark a memory ( I think!) When spotting there in the early 60s, there were indeed many trolleys parked on the platforms. I seem to recall there used to be short lengths of chain with a hook on the end hanging from the canopy columns. These were used to tether the trolleys to preventing them inadvertently getting onto the track.

Sorry, raises hand sheepishly. I'm looking at getting some Judith Edge cross arms if it looks like the layout may go out again

Then there were the flying pigs as well

It's been in store for a good many years, rooting around I've found a few not great quality pictures (I'm very much a point and shoot picture taker) taken at Wakefield show in 2006 which may well have been it's last outing. We had got our hands on several tubs of Woodland Scenics snow and decided to 'improve' the, in places, fairly sparse scenery with snow cover hence the very light appearance of the ground. Overall view of the station area. Most of the station side of the layout Lima 87 hauling tanks past south juction Hornby 90 on passenger at the north end of the station Same train heading round the bend towards Law Junction which was on the back of the layout then into the fiddle yard Lima 87 heading south towards the station. Sorry about the quality of the photos but these are about the only ones I have I think as I'd not had a digital camera long before the layout's last appearance. Edit: There's another picture in post 13 of this thread.

Yes, that's ours. Being looked at for possible redesigning shortly.