GordonC

I struggle to understand the benefit of working pantographs, if it looks right then I couldn't care less whether the power comes from rails or the overhead.

I'm sure it was mentioned in one of the magazine features recently where a club had found that when working with DCC and their electrics used overhead for power and commands that it was causing problems where the locos were presumably also getting the DCC commands through the rails and they ended up disabling the overhead because of it.

There must be class 40s and 47s due soon as catalogue models - I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of those. Are there any anniversaries or special dates coming up perhaps?

so are the periscopes fixed in position then? I assume they cant raise up since they'll quite quickly go out of gauge, but from where they are it doesn't look like they'd see much above the radio roof pods

What was in the raised roof sections of these coaches?

ah it must be that I was thinking of then, yeah you're right it was only 2014 that it was announced

Did Newton-Le-Willows not have a motorail terminal at one point? Was it not in use for motorail at all between the 1960s and 1990s? I didn't see it mentioned in the timetables shown there

whilst its true that some models can take a while, just for asking the question about the 90 i wouldnt slap you down and suggest you go set up your own model railway business to try and do any better. it might make the poster feel better about himself but frankly taking that approach is unrealistic and silly to be even suggested.  I dare say the poster knows this.

 

I do agree that the class 85 was about 2.5 to 3 years from first announcement to arrival.

Is that 4 years now though since the class 90 was announced and its still under 'design'. It'll have a lot of stages to go through before we actually see any models so it would be nice just to see a bit of progress. I doubt we'll see any models before 2018

Not even Bernard Cribbins could turn this tide when it comes to getting youngsters interested in model railways.

that cant be true!! ... have you seen how popular Thomas the Tank Engine is? from branded merchandise to thomas days at the local preserved lines

If a fraction of that interest can be captured and directed towards model railways then it could only be a good thing for the hobby. Just need to watch the initial costs of starter sets to ensure that doesn't discourage purchases too much.

A short take of the following would be possible, with or without brake van or a mix of each as they could be working to a depot for maintenance

 

Grampus

Catfish/ dogfish

Salmon

Ex-16t mineral wagons (slots cut in side)

Ex-12T pipe wagons (Mercury blue)

Well wagon with or without excavator/ dozer mixed with famous or 16Ts

 

These are all vacuum braked.

Mermaids too

isn't Germany building a whole load of Coal-fired power stations to replace their nuclear ones? what is different about them that they're 'allowed' within EU rules and our existing ones aren't or cannot be made to be 'allowed'. We surely cant be expecting the increase in renewables over the next year to cover the shortfall from Fiddlers Ferry and Rugeley being closed.

Have Class 50s ever been used to haul the Royal Train? pre-Class 67's it looked to have always been Class 47s for a number of years

Looking at Quail p1, the fuel roads at Willesden were three non-electrified roads at the north end of the depot. The same book's plan of Allerton doesn't indicate which was the fuel road, but there were four or five unwired roads in the middle of the layout.

hmmmm there was an article in Traction magazine just the other month about a drivers memories at Willesden and I thought the diagram had the fuelling point on the south (London) end just outside the building. I could be mistaken though, I thought it was an odd place for it

Allerton depot may be another. I'm not sure where the fuelling point was, but it was certainly electrified and handled diesels too

Related question! Any refueling points out there that happen to have ohle above them? Found images of refueling point lines beside ohle lines, but not with the 2 combined. Probably a fairly pointless combination in the grand scheme of things but does have its plus points for the space starved modeller!

 

cheers.

what about the one at Willesden? Was the fuelling point there not located at one end of the electric depot for the local shunters and class 25s in earlier years. with the depot being electric I'd expect the fuelling point had ohle through it but perhaps it could be isolated when fuelling was taking place

look for photos of them at nearby depots ... maybe Ayr or Motherwell perhaps. Dont think Carlisle Kingmoor would have been open or had a fuelling point at that time

I think it will solve the issue if Hornby paint it right. Because the swoosh is uni-directional...so it has to.

The swoosh on each side both point towards one end, turn it round and they'll both point to the opposite end. So I think the box graphic just hasn't taken that into account when it was put together

Class 37672 based st blazey Cornwall and they been running from Cornwall to up to Scotland and they has or not has service in Scotland then return to south to Cornwall? By the twin class 37 to Scotland by China slurry wagon

yes

are the sides not directional? i.e. you just need to turn the TSOs round to get the swoosh the right way round?

I'd have thought there would be an opportunity here to make a few quid for the commissioner.

If further production runs could bring the cost down closer to perhaps £60 that they could sell quite a few more and gain free advertising at model railways shows with full rakes on the layouts. £83 is pretty high for multiple purchases

AFAIK a politically based decision isn't possible under the rules..

The french and germans seem to be able to ignore the rules when it suits them ... why cant we?

The price they're charging for this model (that paid for itself decades ago) could probably fund Greece's national debt...

£83, what's it made of, Unicorn horns and unobtainium?!

 

C6T.

.... and it still looks like a 'toy' however fancy a paint job they put on it.

would be 'Inter-City' i.e. what was current for the time - no special designations during the cl.27 p-p era

 

Scotrail or ScotRail only existed from about '84/'85(?), under the directorship of Chris Green

When did the Scotrail or ScotRail start getting used? I'm pretty sure the coaches in the pictures of the Polmont crash in 1984 had 'Intercity Scotrail' branding on Blue and Grey stock

Something odd going on when I use the post with quote button (only works if I select multiple posts but then once you go back the post with a single quote works).....not sure if its just this laptop. 

 

anyway - I hadn't considered the price of the non standard Mk2f in the form of the DBSO and common sense dictates this will cost more than the regular open coaches.  By your prediction of nearer £80 this might put the version with dcc lighting close to £100 given that it will probably not just be limited to interior lighting like the regular opens but head and tail lights too.

 

One should remember that of course here we are just estimating about full retail so we should see prices a little lower that whatever the final decided prices are set at.  

I think if the DBSO DCC/lights version was heading above £80 that I doubt it'll be produced, with the additional cost left to the buyer to fit themselves if they want it.

The autocoach is an expensive example, but I would really have thought there would be more economies of scale from the Mk2fs in general. £60 each would be expensive, but if it gets much higher it will greatly reduce the number of people upgrading their fleets from Airfix/Mainline/Dapol/Hornby/Lima versions of the air-con Mk2s

are there any of these hoppers left to laser scan?

I never actually thought the old Mainline Class 56 was that bad that I was surprised when they re-tooled it. Perhaps a few tweaks were needed but I thought it was a decent model