Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Thanks again Mike, I have tried Blender briefly but cannot get use to it yet, however its something I wish to try. Also thanks about DEMU however I don't think I could make it, but heard there would be some 3D items there. Wild Boar Fell by the way is the name of my layout, taking its name from a Cumbrian mountain. However I have made some changes to my design and made the whole thing one piece with greater relief and what I believe is a more accurate representation of the bogies. Here's some pics Please anyone let me know what you think, any feedback would be much appreciated and I shall see what I can do. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hi, Thanks Mike those bogie's look excellent, don't think I could match them, I hear what you say, however it is not very easy to produce such shapes in sketch up, which is what I use, I have tried to add some relief using the layers though, I may have these test printed to see what they look like, and if necessary modify them. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello, I have just been working some more on the bogies, and have now created both parts, I have taken these renders to show how it is built up, yellow parts are FUD and grey parts are WSF. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Here is my latest work, these are the bogie side frames of the Gloucester GP22.5's these are to be used in my kits of the modern warwells and warflats, they are going to consist of a sub assembly of WSF and these faces in FUD, these will be sold as a separate item with the buffers and jacks. This has been necessary due to rue changes at shapeways end, however it will allow more accurate buffers and jacks as well as making them finer. Any feedback on these bogies would be great. Many thanks to Ben A for kind use of his drawings without which these wouldn't have been made. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello Everyone, Good news, I have today received the wheels and after checking I have decided the 80t warwells are ready for sale. Therefore they are now available for sale on my store front at http://www.shapeways.com/shops/wildboarmodels Please note that these wagons require 6x Romford 10.5mm disc wheels, and the axleboxes need opening up with a 2mm drill to allow the wagon to roll more freely. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Thanks for that Brian, great I have some bauxite paint but not the correct grey. Also thanks for that excuse, what would they run with, or were they just mixed in with general freight? Regards Wild Boar Fell

Thanks Brian, Unfortunately they cannot be pre ordered, however I will post the link when they become available. Please be aware that finer details such as rivets and handbrake wheels etc, need to be sourced seperately. Did you say the 80t's should be bauxite? Regards Wild Boar Fell, I have also finally got my layout (Wild Boar Fell) out of winter storage, so some photos of my warwells on it may appear soon, before I modify the layout.

Hello, As mentioned here are some photos of the 80t warwells and the PFA container flat, the wheels should arrive next week and if all clear the 80 tonner should go on sale then, the PFA however needs some modification work to the underside and will require a reprint. Next up is the Rectanks and Warflats (WW2/ PO). Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Today I have received samples of the forthcoming PFA container flat and 80t warwells, Both appear good to me, however some changes are required to the PFA, I have checked and it will accept a 20ft container, it just drops onto the mounting pins. 80t is fine, just awaiting the correct sized wheels to make sure it runs okay. Hopefully post some photos tomorrow. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Thanks Mark, Brilliant photo by the way, I looks as though the sides fold back against the sole bar. I had not noticed that in the original photo. Also that diagram is certainly of use. Anyone interested in of model of these wagons let me know, If I was to produce it what would people think about having the side supports separate to allow you to model it in either condition (eg, folded or extended). I could find use for this on my layout (If I am not careful my Cumbrian layout will slowly turn into one of the LMR). Regards Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Thanks Brian, I think I have read about that incident, I think it was on the Redmire Branch (now Wensleydale Railway). Yes the warriors do require the extra platforms but I believe that some if not all warwells now have extra plates on the sides and above the buffers to make the deck wider and protect the buffers, I am unsure when these were fitted, but they appear on the photos from 2003. You may see what I mean in this photo, just above the buffers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/5854196659/in/set-72157627008284776 Hope Brian Daniels doesn't mind me using his great photo's Hope this helps explain what I mean. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Its not a silly question The difference between the WW2 warwells that I do and the post 2003 ones in development is such as you state the change in brakes and bogies, but also post 2003 examples have frame extension on the sides and ends to make loading of larger vehicles easier such as warriors (Or so I believe), also the deck is now filled in however this happened sometime between the war and the 1970's. If you are looking for early 70's you could get away with using the WW2 warwells on the diamond bogies but the deck should be filled in as shown on the photos on PB's website. For later 1970's you would probably have to swap the bogies to the GP22.5's Hope this is of use to you. Regards Wild Boar Fell

Hello thanks for your comments and photos, Pete is correct it is a crane such as these, http://paulbartlett..../brtwinjibcrane photos 5 and 8 etc. Thought it may be an interesting project. Can anyone help me please as I need some better dimension for the modern warflats such as the depth of the frames/ deck and trusses? Also just found this which may be of use to those into the gwr http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-warflat-train-gwr-1.htm Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello Simon, Your work looks good, especially the suspension! I have had similar trouble with items being rejected, have you tried using netfabb studio (which is free) to check your files before you upload them, I have found this has solved most of them. (I believe it is also the software shapeways now use). Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello Everyone, I managed to get some work done in a little bit of spare time, so decided to start a new project after being tempted by another thread. Can anyone guess what it is yet? Also does anyone have any information on these as I only have some basic drawings and there are some photo's on PB's website. Finally I have managed to find some drawings for the modern warflats so when I have more time I may draw them up, what's your opinion on that would you be interested? Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello Jaspaw, The couplings on my wagons are glued directly onto balsa wood blocks onto the underside of the wagon, since these photos were taken though I have moved the coupling further forward between the jacks to avoid interlocking on very tight sections. The ramp wagon are slightly different as they lie on a sheet of plastic card on the base of the wagon instead of balsa. At one end a section of the jack rigging (the rod that appears from the middle of the wagon to one end) has to be removed but can be reattached to the end of the coupling. All the couplings that I have used are the Bachmann cranked couplings that they fit to most of there BR 60's stock. Hope these are of use. Regards Wild Boar Fell

Hello Jaspaw, Hope these photos are a bit better, Regards Wild Boar Fell

Hello, Thanks Jaspaw, I shall load some better photos shortly, but may have to wait until better light to take them. Does anyone here read Hornby magazine, as I believe these is a mention of these wagons in there. However I haven't read it myself yet. Regards Wild Boar Fell

Thanks Brian, Mike and Adrian, Looks an interesting prototype, anyone got any scale plans? Here my quick attempt to cobble together something similar, You are correct as well, the tank is a chieftain. Anyway here's some photos of the test prints of the warflat and rectank, (both rejected so don't worry about the bowing or print quality or the damage to the warflats jack and bogie mounts). Just though you might be interested in these, Finally here are some photos of my military train for Wild Boar Fell, they are posed on one cassette and the wagons aren't completely finished. Can anyone find a decent excuse for me to be carrying Cromwell tanks in the mid 1960's? (An airfix kit very good build). Regards Wild Boar Fell

Don't worry Leadmill, These are still in development, however progress is a little slow. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello Everyone, Just to let everyone know I've not given up, I have just been very busy recently so updates over the next few weeks may be rare as well. However shapeways are looking into the rectanks and warflats, also feel free to post photos of your wagons. Regards, Wild Boar Fell

Hello, the policy change was that regarding wall thickness's over a certain length, It mean that the buffer heads and the jacks would have to be very over-scale, however I may have found an alternative. Any Ideas would be of great use. Wild Boar Fell

Hello Jaspaw, The warwells and ramp wagons should go round 3rd radius, and I believe they can do 2nd as well, however 1st may be a bit of a push. Hope this is of use. On the Rectank and Warflat front, I have today received the samples and can only say I am not impressed with the print quality and regidity of the samples, I had to have them done in frosted detail as apparently they were not produce able in WSF, I will try and see whether they will change there mind so I am sorry but these two may be delayed by a fair while. Hope you can understand my frustration and apologies to those who are interested in them. Wild Boar Fell

Hello Everyone, Just a quick update, the prototype Rectanks and Warflats are currently in production and should be with me midweek next week. Please be aware that due to policy changes at shapeways end these two wagons will be made in frosted detail rather than white, strong and flexible. This does mean that these will retail at 25 euros, but it is necessary to allow them to be produced, future models are likely to be in this material which will allow more finer detail than available on the warwell. All going well these two wagons should be for sale from Wednesday. Regards, Wild Boar Fell Further to this posting, The original warwells and ramp wagons are unaffected and remain at there current price, also the prototypes of the Rectanks and Warflats have not yet left Shapeways so it will not be Thursday at the earliest, however I am guessing it will be Friday. WBF

Hello Jason, No problem, happy to help. Regards, Wild boar Fell