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This is very useful information, thank you!

Thanks for the info! So am I right in saying ANY Pullman coaches with the later style crests are from 1961 onwards? Is that when the crest style changed, when the Mk1 Pullmans were introduced? I'm guessing the roofs were changed from white at some point? The newer matchboard-sided cars from Hornby have grey but all the others I have are white roofs! Still confused about Steel-sided/aluminium-sided/flush-sided - are they one and the same? And the difference between these and "All-Steel K-Type"

I'm hoping someone with knowledge of these things can help clear up some confusion I have regarding these (and other) Hornby Pullmans. I bought the initial set of 5 x K-Type 1928 coaches released by Hornby a couple of years ago (R4660-R4664) and have just acquired the complete set of 5 x K-Type coaches released I believe last year (R4693-R4697) The 2015 batch have early crests, white roofs and the more ornate naming surrounds. However, I've noticed the more recent batch has the later crests, grey roofs and the more basic lining around the coach name. What era is this second batch representative of? The 1960s? When exactly did the Pullman crest style change? Also, I've acquired the set of Pullman cars released by Hornby this year (originally slated for release last year) that are matchboard-sided (R4738-R4742) but these have the earlier crest style. What era are these coaches representative of? I'm guessing the 1950s or 1960s? - depending on when the crest style changed. Hence the question above. Aside from the 2017 batch, all of the other Hornby matchboard-sided Pullmans I own (from 2003 onwards) have the earlier crests but with white roofs. Are these representative of 1930s Pullmans? Finally....the one thing that confuses me perhaps more than anything else! I see "Aluminium-sided", "Flush-sided" and "Steel-sided" used interchangeably to describe non-matchboard Hornby Pullmans. Is there a difference between them or are they indeed the same thing? And what's the difference between these and "All-Steel K-Type"? Sorry for all the questions, just cruous and trying to gain some knowledge

Thanks! Having scrolled back through the thread after you mentioned it I was able to find reference to the different diagrams.

I'm somewhat confused. The Mk1 FO has already been done has it not? Fairly recently, by Bachmann. I have one of each in three different liveries (blue/grey, maroon and crimson/cream). Is the Hornby Mk1 FO different to the Bachmann one? In other words, is there more than one type of Mk1 FO?

I was wondering the same thing, what exactly is the purpose of the decoder if the unit has switches for lighting (internal + headcode blinds)?

Great, thank you! Obviously a renumbered unit, as originally, as I understand it, 4CIGs were 73xx and 74xx...

Can anyone tell me what class of EMU (number 1241) is shown in the photo below? The photo must be late 1980s (after the Weymouth line electrification) or very early 1990s.

I think it would have to the trading standards nearest to them, but I will look into it. I can't believe I'm having to resort to this to get a model locomotive and a membership pack.

With all due respect....why should the onus be on me to spend time taking action against them for something they have messed up? Why is their incompetence and inability to process a very simple order now my problem? They had my order, given in good faith, and in the case of membership they already have my money. Yet they have spent the last 4 months failing to fulfill it. It's incompetence at its worst. I will point them in the direction of these posts for sure....but all the emails I've sent them so far chasing them for an ETA on the loco, and the most recent one I sent on Wednesday whereby I politely made it clear I was extremely fed up with this whole saga, have got me nowhere. We are talking about a membership pack and a model loco. One simple order for two items. Card details for the loco purchase given to them twice now. I am baffled as to how something so straightforward can end up being such a complete and utter fiasco. Sorry, but Dapol has absolutely NO excuse to carry on like this.

Don't do facebook so that's not an option...

I paid for the membership via PayPal back in December. 4 months and still nothing. I gave card details over the phone for the loco as there was no option to purchase the collector's club model off the website. I am more concerned about missing out on the loco though. It's a farce! My card details have been given to the person who runs the club twice now. The loco was IN STOCK at Dapol in December when I joined the collector's club but stock is depleting apparently, according to someone I spoke to in the warehouse recently. So some people MUST be getting their collector's club model but why not me? I have a couple of DJModels Class 71's on pre-order paid for upfront so I understand the whole crowd sourcing thing, but this is different. This is a collector's club model that was (and still is) in stock at the time I ordered it. I should not have to keep chasing Dapol for it - despite them telling me numerous times back in January that "it will be with you soon" I got nothing. And emails I have sent since have been ignored. Not a good way to run a business is it?

Paid for membership by PayPal.....can't believe I'm having to go to all this trouble to get something I should have received months ago....the payment for the loco hasn't come out yet.

It had occurred to me. Will they take me seriously over an order totalling not much more than £100? I would hope so but it's a lot of hassle and inconvenience isn't it? We're talking about a model loco and a membership pack. How hard can it be to send them out?????

So....I am still waiting for my Collector's Club version of this loco. I am right at the end of my tether with this. I joined the Dapol Collector's Club in December last year, placing my order for membership on the Dapol website. I rang and placed an order for the loco shortly thereafter, and provided credit card details. Numerous times I have chased them, and numerous times I was advised the model would be on its way to me soon. But nothing. They haven't even sent me my membership pack! Is this some kind of joke Dapol? I hope someone from their senior management sees this because I am just utterly fed up with the company at this moment in time. I paid £25 for a collectors club membership and they still have not sent me a membership pack! I paid for a loco - the main reason I joined the club - and still have not received it! I rang earlier this week - Monday to be precise - and spoke to Nicola again, she took my card details (again) and I requested the loco be shipped on Wednesday for delivery to me on Thursday. Then nothing. Again. I emailed the club on Wednesday pm when it became apparent the loco had not been despatched (I checked my account and no payment taken) asking for an update. Guess what? It's now Friday and NO REPLY. Dapol : If you're going to set up a collector's club for cryin' out loud do it properly. I cannot understand why something so simple as sending out a membership pack and a loco - BOTH OF WHICH I PAID FOR OVER 4 MONTHS AGO - appears to be proving such a monumental challenge to your organisation. From where I am sitting you either: 1. You have the wrong people running it or 2. You should forget the idea and offer limited edition models to retailers who know how to process a bloody order. Seriously miffed now. What is the name of their MD?

Very odd....and very 20th century!!!! I wonder if anyone else on these forums has actually acquired a club model (DC version) without all the palava you had to go through to get one. The lady I spoke to originally was most helpful, and there was absolutely no mention of forms or cheques!

Telford is a long way for me, and I hadn't planned to go. The collector's club, based on my experience so far, appears to be very disorganised! I joined the club easily enough as was able to pay for the membership online. But surely, how hard can it be to send a loco out when they took my payment details over the phone coming up to two months ago?!

I'm on the verge of giving up ever seeing this model, which I ordered in December! I placed an order over the telephone and despite assurances that I would receive soon - no sign of it!

So what's going on with the DC version? I've been waiting since mid-December for it! Paid by credit card over the phone and still no money taken yet. Has anyone here received their club model?

The website still says the same as a week or so before Xmas when I placed my order....that they are selling fast but still have some left. I get the impression it's all somewhat chaotic at Dapol HQ at the moment....but surely it cannot be too difficult for them to process an order and ship it out?!

I wonder what is going on at Dapol? How hard can it be to ship a loco out? I called in and placed my order for it NEARLY 6 WEEKS AGO with a credit card....but no sign of it! Has anyone on here seen their Club model arrive yet? Do Dapol read these forums?

I called Dapol nearly 6 weeks back to purchase the club Class 73, gave them credit card and address, etc, no mention of a form needing to be filled in?! And certainly no mention of having to send a cheque! I stopped using cheques years ago!!! I have chased it a few times and keep being told it will be despatched "soon". Close to giving up on it myself... {Edited: originally stated a couple of weeks back but it was actually before Xmas 2015 that I placed my order!!!!!!)

I guess the question is now, will Dapol actually release their planned 00 gauge 121/22 model? Still says "in CAD/CAM development" on the Dapol website...

My membership ran out in January this year, like you ruggedpeak I have been waiting patiently for the download-only option to be made available. I was, however, able to login to the Hornby site in January and use a Collectors Club voucher code that had been emailed to me and pre-order Manston although I had previously expressed an interest in the model before the option to pre-order on the Hornby website was available. But I have to ask, what on Earth are Hornby playing at with the new clubs? The original information was somewhat misleading, to say the least (implying a single club for the Hornby Hobbies "brand" when it's not although they are linked, i.e. same membership number for each one you pay to join except Scalecxtric which is free) and the download option for the Hornby Collectors Club is still not available! I was told in a phone call to the Collectors Club late February that the download-only option would be available from Monday 2nd March. I emailed them over a week ago to get an update and still no response. I get the feeling that the setting up of the new clubs have been rushed through and chaos reigns supreme at Hornby HQ at the moment. Taking the various Hornby clubs in-house to manage is all well and good but Hornby needs to communicate better with customers and respond to emails in a timely fashion far better than it is doing at present IME. I still have two open cases with Hornby Customer Care with no response from them for several months!

Just got an email from Rails - looks like the Railway Children pack has come into stock.