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After further research I now think that picture 13 is probably where the L&M crossed Leek Road in Wetton parish? Its the only place I can see such a pronounced curve approaching the road crossing and the topography looks right from google maps/ street view. Also the road looks right for a country back road. (I know the A523 in 1934 would look pretty rural but I think this is too much so)! Also picture 16 looks right for south of Wetton Mill. I now think the "3" marker is a mile post (the bridge at that location is about 3 miles from Hulme End and the countryside looks right from current geograph photos of the Manifold Way). Also I'm sure that pic 11 is L&M. Again the topography looks right and the marker post (or whatever it is) matches that in pic 13 which we all believe is L&M.

Many thanks to all who responded.

I've just been sorting through some photographs I bought in a job lot from the local auction house. Among them are some decent shots of what looks to me like a narrow gauge railway. There is no information apparent on what they are who who was the photographer but they all take the form of photo postcards. (I know that it was often the practice to have your photos printed on postcards and indeed there are three duplicates among them). Many of the other photos in the job lot seem to be just pre-war. As will be seen from the attachments I have included. they are all of what look like cow catcher fitted narrow gauge steam locomotives with a couple including a station. Most are of heavily loaded cattle trains but a couple include passenger stock. My immediate prejudice is for (maybe) Ireland? I have trawled through all the obvious options I can think of on the internet but have not found anything to match. I do not believe they have been published before. Can anybody help me here? I have included numbers on the bottom left of each picture to aid description/ discussion and response

Yes, the J36 motor would not fit in the R1 body. I tried all sorts of other potential chassis/ motors (J11, C, J36, jinty, E4, L&Y tank, coal tank etc ) and all had motors that were too big.

I have a j36 and tried its chassis on the R1 body. It didn't fit. The only good fit was the J15. All the rest were too big.

I think Ramrig is correct re picture 13. Looking at satelite picture that looks like the only place the railway crossed a road on quite that alignment. After some further investigation: I think picture 4 could be Alan's Bridge over the River Hamp; picture 6 may be adjoining the Dafar Road Bridge (or bridge near Beeston Tor Farm [again over River Hamps] - or just possibly the Bridge where the Manifold Way leaves the A523)? Agree that no. 12 is probably standard gauge so not L&M; Not sure about No.15. The original pic of the Kitson by Butterton Halt shows track that looks too wide. I guess the distant signal may be the clincher. Did L&M use such signals (doubtful?)

I think Ramrig is correct. Looking at satelite picture that looks like the only place the railway crossed a road on quite that alignment.

End result: OK not brilliant but......)

Thanks again to A Y MOD, ELTEL, Phil Traxson and Sheffield for their help on this. I wonder if any of you have managed to identify any of the extra pics (especially the bridge ones). Anyway, as A Y MOD expressed an interest in the other "maybe L & M" pics that I have : here they are: Again I have put numbers on the left to aid focus. I think No.10 could be "Nr Beeston Tor". It looks exactly like the location in an internet pic. showing the summer time dry River manifold on the right? I don't think 12 is actually L&M. Platform looks too high? The road crossing on 13 can hopefully be identified. 15 may be standard gauge? 16 seems to be bridge number 3?

Thank you A Y Mod! I have a few more that came in the same batch. Don't want to bore people - but, if you like, I can upload them also?

As promised: here are some more scans of photos from the job lot that included the Leek and Manifold Kitson. These are but a few of the likely candidates (I think)! I have inserted numbers into the bottom left hand corner to help identify the ones we are discussing. Hope you can help! have

Sorry but cannot do an enlarged version. All these pics are small and only really blow up to the size on screen. Any bigger and the limited clarity they have is lost. I'm going to research Pinzgauer Lokalbahn and Bregenzeralbahn re the U/ U25. There are, in the words of the Moody Blues "more questions than answers"!

Hi Guys Fascinating debate! Unfortunately, looking more closely at two other pics that came in the same batch - I don't think they will help. What at first glance I thought were two of the same engines as the first one but parked up, actually look quite different on closer exam. I attach them nevertheless 'cos they may help or at least be of interest. The pic of the two locos marked 1 and 7 shows them beside a river or canal in a flat landscape like the first pic. The picture of the single engine with what looks like a spark arrester is marked on the back "Zell am See" which is near Saltzburg, Austria. This is hilly landscape. I agree with becasse - in the light of the above I think its probably "Nr. Munich". Whoever took the pics had terrible handwriting!

Hi guys I can see why you might think penlee. Looks like same LOCO and same v skips. Pretty certain it ain't penlee. I bought a job lot of photos at auction. All sorts of stuff there. Leek and manifold, irish, prewar, austrian, Swiss trams! The info on some that I can read is all in English I will upload the other pic as soon as I get a chance.

Hi People Does anyone know or recognise the location of the attached photograph? It is obviously a mineral railway - and probably narrow guage. I have included a copy of the rear of the pic on which is written faintly something like "Nr. Mawch" but it might be "Illawch" or something entirely different. I have searched the options and come up with nothing. I am assuming Wales? But I guess it might be European? I know some Welsh mines/ quarries used Koppel locomotives. I have another pic which shows two of these locos apparently in the middle of nowhere!

Hi Guys I've been looking through the photographs again and have found one, thanks to A Y Mod, showing Swainsley tunnel, from the Butterton end, complete with track and with a view of a loco approaching the other end of the tunnel. I'm wondering if several other photos I've got of track formations - including one of the approach to a bridge work over a road or stream which shows track gone and piles of stone and fine stones - are also Leek & Manifold. Think that picks up the comments made by Phil Traxson and Sheffield. I'll try to find time to download some of them onto this post. Thanks again all!

Gents You are truly founts of incredible knowledge. Many thanks!

Hi there Does anyone know the location the attached photograph? It looks like somewhere in the UK (judging by the car and the notices and gradient post). But I think it might be Ireland (5'3" gauge)? Also the loco looks like it might be Irish?

Dear responders Many thanks for your knowledge. I never cease to be amazed! So: I was wrong on most counts: not GWR, not Wales etc

Hi Does anyone out there know the location of the attached photo? I'm thinking: * country station because no non-railway buildings around; * GWR because of style of water tank, the style and colour scheme of building, and the fact that the semaphore signals are of the lower quadrant type *junction because of track work, bay platforms and signalling *Wales because of the hills (if its GWR)

You guys (as always) are really quiote remarkable! I'm most grateful for the responses - particularly that from Hatfield (34theletterbetween B&D) for the confirmation of what to do (feels a bit like XPD - cut the wrong wire and boom)! I shall go for it. The J15 chassis and motor fit well under the R1 body. As long as the front wheels line up with the splasher in front of the side tank (and they do) it looks fine as the other two wheels are under the side tank and don't really show. I tried all sorts of other potential chassis/ motors (J11, C, J36, jinty, E4, L&Y tank, coal tank etc ) and all had motors that were too big. Because of that I don't want to risk shelling out on the OR Dean as I cannot check its dimensions without actually buying the thing. Can get a brand new J15 for far less than they are going for on eBay. (If I don't canabalise it I can sit it with my other four J15s on my Aldeburgh terminus layout). My controller is one made for me donkey's years ago by a mate who worked at the BT Research at Martlesham Heath. It has an inertia device and I'm using it because I have some can motor locos that don't like my Gaugemaster feed-back job. OR locos tend to hesitate and then shoot away at warp speed X. Think I'll get a simple Gaugemaster Combi. Best wishes

Hi Guys (and girls of course) Still thinking about the replacement RTR chassis/ motor to fit in the Hornby Dublo R1 body that I am detailing. When last discussed the Oxford Rail Dean Goods looked good. Problem : Oxford Rail products don't seem to like my controller. Looked at the Hornby J15 - the chassis and motor will fit well. BUT: (and this may be a naive comment but that's where I am): Like the Dean Goods the J15 engine will not run unless it is connected via the DCC blanking plate etc which is located in the tender! That's not helpful when I'm trying to create a tenderless tank locomotive. There are four wires running between the loco to the tender via the plug-in on the tender. I suppose that two of these wires are connected to the pick-ups on the loco (one each to the pick ups on one side of the loco). These take current from the loco's pick-ups to the tender/ blanking plate? The other two wires, I guess, bring current from the tender electrical connection back to the motor? If that is correct I should be able to bypass the tender and connect the two loco pickup wires direct to the motor? But how to determine which wires are doing which job? Service sheet of no help here!

Thanks guys. I've done a little more research with the help of your comments. Think the Dean Goods looks favourite for an economic option.

Hi. Can anyone suggest a modern RTR chassis that I could fit to an old Hornby Dublo R1 body that I am detailing?

Hi Guys Many thanks flor your encyclopeadic knowledge. Problem is the info you give seems to rule out HD, Triang and Trix!: Worm wheel does not seem to have screw fixing. Motor is open X04 type crank pins on outer wheels are not slotted wheels on both sides seem to be solid metal (one piece on the live side but with a solid insert on the other) no threaded fixing holes that I can see for the HD type couplings the chassis does not seem to fit the HD R1 body. The rear of the chassis has two lugs which look as though they should fit into the slot at the bunker end of the body - but they do not - being too far apart. The threaded hole at the front of the chassis block does, however, line up with the screw put down the chimney. Photo attached!