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6202 always ran with that cover at the front end open - as in the scratcbuilt one.
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No news on a production version of these, they are flat on top, no representation of chairs. The timbers are thin pcb, the whole idea was simply to get the rail lifted above the timbers - originally I used short strips of brass or n/s to do this. I'll dig about and put some photos of this back on here when I've got time.
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I've never used Peco points.....
Until I built Wentworth Junction I'd never used Peco track either.
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You can find photos in a folder of “layout photos” but there’s a lot to wade through. Ours is 70ft anyway, it’s one of three I built for Leeds Victoria, the 60ft one is now at Brunswick, this one was for the loco shed and is 70ft and the Victoria one (65ft) was given to the club for another project.
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12 hours ago, LNER4479 said:So - yes, we now have the start of the all-important Upperby roundhouse, as part of Upperby MPD, part of the Upperby complex. Why install this now, in isolation? Simply, that this is the most inaccessible corner of the complex, necessitating crawling about on the board itself. So, better to do it now rather than trampling over other freshly laid track.
There was a conversation some way back up thread about a suitable turntable. In the end, there was only really one show in town and I duly acquired a Heljan HO 90ft 'table (cat no. 89121). That's approx 79ft in 4mm.
Did I pay full price? No I didn't! I bided my time and eventually plumped for a 'pre-loved' example for half RRP. It claimed to have been hardly used and that appears to be the case (mercifully!). Some minor damage to one of the turntable rails (easily repaired); otherwise G.A.N., much still in original packaging.
No going back now! As you might recall, I've already marked everything out on the trusted lining paper. So, all I had to do was to tape the Heljan template in the right place? Well, almost - there was just the little matter of adjusting the orientation to ensure that the 'no track' zone was not where I didn't want it to be (if that makes sense)
With the pit in position, I had a fun session mapping out the possible track plan in the allotted space - previously, I had just left a suitable area.
(For avoidance of doubt, although it'll be a full roundhouse, the stalls at the back are not full length - some only able to take a 0-6-0T 'Jinty'. That's just to balance out the space available. But at least half should be full length to host my beloved pacifics)
The 'Carlisle in France' files, made available to me by one Mr Mike Edge, proved invaluable in this exercise and I think I'm tending towards a trackplan which, although much compressed, contains sufficient features as to be (potentially) recognisable.
We only had room for a small segment of the Upperby roundhouse, no turntable (or track for that matter) in ours. These photos taken in 2014, this part of the layout is still very unfinished, track not even painted yet although it's all working.
The roundhouse would be more than 4ft in diameter to scale and this part of our layout isn't, there's a good deal of compression south of St Nicholas bridge.
We did have room for the outside 70ft turntable though - originally built for Leeds Victoria more than 40 years ago.
Close up of the building, constructed by the amazing Ukrainian modellers who did most of our buildings. Sadly and worryingly we haven't heard from them for over a year now.
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12 hours ago, Tony Wright said:Thanks Mike,
It's beautifully-built; from scratch or from a kit?
A bit of both, I etched the frames, motion and a few other bits but the rest of it seems to be scratchbuilt.
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2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:
Good morning Ian,
A superlative paint job, as always. However (there's always an 'however'), something didn't look right; then it dawned on me. The driving wheels have two too many spokes (20, instead of 18), making the 'underneath' look too green.
I know this might be akin to 'rivet counting' (and, certainly, nobody can count spokes as a loco bowls by), but the 'lack of space' between the spokes, made more noticeable by their being green, just looks a bit odd. Is the model to 4mm scale?
Hornby's manifestation of the new-build P2 (both have the correct number of spokes in their driving wheels).
What's the point of this comparison, or should I say contrast?
The one I built, with your matchless painting cost my customer (even at mate's rates) the wrong side of four figures!
For that, you (the generic 'you') can buy four of Hornby's latest RTR P2s, and still have change for a a visit to the flics and a fish supper!
Yes, there are areas where RTR locos can (and should?) be better, but we (the generic 'we') have never had it so good.
Regards,
Tony.
I built this in 2005 (and it was supposed to be No. 2003, not 2004), I don't think the correct wheels were available then. These are Gibson 4874L which I think were the nearest I could get at the time. Yes it is 4mm scale, 00 gauge, one of only two streamined P2s I have built - although I've done lots more of the first two in their original form.
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Thanks John, I had seen it - on the layout within 24 hours of posting it!
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Photos of the completed Jidenco F1
It's not been easy or quick but I'm really pleased with this loco.
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The weekend went very well, we sold out out the first batch of C14s entirely and all the class 14 frame kits we took with us. The C14 (when we get some more!) is £70 + £5 postage, we do still have some cl14 frames at £30 + £2.50 postage.
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Packing for Scaleforum this morning, we have the LSW C14 0-4-0T ready now.
and we also have this compensated frame kit for the rtr class 14 (D9500).
This includes new frames with provision for compensation or hornblock fitting, spacers to scale width or narrower for 00 gauge. Axleboxes are multiple laminations building up to full thickness for P4 - or less for more clearance/other gauges. All brake gear and replacement cab steps are included. It is designed to be used with Gibson wheels which come with moulded plastic cranks.
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Another job finished today.
This New Zealand Hillside Tr in 1:48 scale has been on the bench for quite a long time, it's a test etch build for a kit from Glenorchy Models.
I wasn't going to power it but fitting one of these n20 motors is really quick and easy.
This is one of the higher geared ones, runs just about right speed with approximately 2:1 reduction spur gears. The final drive gear can be slid along the axle to disconnect the drive if required.
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I've dug out a very poor photo of the 3mm Jidenco W.
No details in the order book for this one but it looks like Romford wheels and probably a Mashima 10x24 on a Branchlines gearbox at this time. Building time was 22 hours, unusually for TT it has flanges on all the driving wheels.
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I have actually built the Jidenco W, in 3mm scale but I can't find any photos of it. I have built two 7mm ones and the steps over the motion are a real pain, this is the most recent one.
The steps on this are more or less where they should be, more importantly the cylinder centres/slidebars are correct and there is enough clearance. EM or P4 would be more of a challenge but most of this was etched and could be scaled down.....
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I've built quite a few Jidenco kits over the years, I still run these two.
LNW 0-8-2T, running on Sharman wheels. This has been the resident gravity yard shunter on Cwmafon for many years and even survived a dive to the floor once.
The first Jidenco kit was this L&Y 0-6-0T, this runs on the MDHB system on Herculaneum Dock after fitting with DCC.
Another early Jidenco kit was the L&Y railmotor, I ran this for many years on various layers but eventually sold it.
Some Jidenco kits were re-scaled to 3mm, this Crab was built to TT gauge with Gibson wheels.
A much later (possibly Falcon Brass) kit was this Ivatt 2MT.
Not Jidenco, this is another M&L LNW Coal engine, Romford wheels on this one.
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A short video to show that huge frame cutouts round bogie wheels are not neceessary.
This shows the loco running round my vicious 28" radius reverse curve, it is a pure reverse curve incidentally, no straight bit in the middle. "Designed" on the basis that if it will go round this it will be OK on almost anything.
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The F1 is finally finished, last job was the smokebox door so I can now put on here a photo from the front .
This hasn't been an easy job, not helped by the Jidenco kit not being complete but it looks right and runs well.
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Plenty of old stuff is surprisingly good and accurate, I've put this one on here before but despite it being a very oddball prototype the body of this Triang 0-4-0T is perfectly accurate.
The less said about the frames the better though, this one has a completely scratchbuilt frame complete with Joy valve gear.
At the top of the thread there was a mention of a Triang EM1, they didn't do this but their EM2 was one of the best early models they made.
The biggest problem is the raised moulding where the orang/black/orange goes on a green one. It's too wide to line either side and not wide enough to line on top - it's not very noticeable when painted lined black or electric blue. Handrails replaced and flush glazing fitted, it's a bit short but definitely looks the part.
The Triang AL1 wasn't bad either, apart from totally incorrect bogies.
Modified bogies from a Hornby AL6, a few more details and nw our Stone-Faiveley pans fitted.
The Hornby Dublo BR BG has been mentioned above, this is really good being the same length as all the other HD Mk1s but correct in this case since the BG was on a 57ft underframe. If I see any more of these I will buy them.
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No it's a 150hp mines rack loco, this is the one I built for the layout we built for Hunslet in the 1980s.
I was building the model from the drawings as it was being built (and pointing out parts which wouldn't fit), they still hadn't got one finished for the catalogue sheet so they used my 7mm model as seen above.
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WC/BB locos have 3'1" trailing pony wheels, MN are 3'7". You need to lower the truck pivot to get it level.
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I'm not sure how many of these couplings I've got and there will be a Mk3 version - mostly to get a better latch but you may not need that. I'll have some for you anyway.
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Would these do the job just as well on the front of your tender locos?
I still haven't perfected the latch operation but you might not need that if the pilot locos are detached on a magnet rather than pushing over one. You can also leave the screw coupling on the front of the loco.
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I've not seen any different grades, the ones I use are sold as graphite pencils by Hobbycraft.
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Cyano is fine for fixing the worm but you need to be very careful with the gears on the axles, it can easily creep along and lock the bearings. Personally I hate this sort of thing and would always go for grub screw fastening, I spent many years encouraging Chris to do it with all his gearboxes - maybe the Lorider is still the old design. Another option may be to raise a burr on the axle where the gearwheel fits, you can do this by rolling the axle with a rough file.
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Wentworth Junction
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I can't find all the stuff that went missing in the great crash, most of them were temporary files just for this thread but here are three pictures of the finished pointwork anyway.
My main purpose was to lift the rails above the timbers to create the right appearance, I wasn't really trying to reproduce proper chairs. I don't like the current fashion of building pointwork with plastic chairs glued to the timbers, they are just about impossible to adjust/fix if anything goes wrong.