Annie

The loco has run away without its driver?

I have wondered about doing some lithos based on old 19th century arc roof coaches to convert some of the damaged Hornby 4 wheelers I've got into useful coaches again. Then their small size wouldn't be so much of a problem anymore. They seem to look Ok with your Terrier because a Terrier is such a small locomotive to start with.

Yes I've seen photos of the live steam ones Grifone, but photos of my old clockwork one seem to be very elusive unfortunately. Good point about the livery mistakes Kevin. My old loco still has the quite lovely MR coat of arms intact on each cabside as well as all its other detailing decals some of which are quite tiny.

I agree, - a roof is simple to make, it's the panelled sides and ends that are the difficult part. I think you are on to something and if you produced 4 and 6 wheel panelled coaches without roofs even I would pry my wallet open and buy one to try. Being a light railways modeller almost anything from the south of England would be fine by me.

Thanks for that Mark. I did kind of wonder at the time, but assumed it was a post war simplification. It still makes the genuine MR 281's terribly camera shy though because I can't find a picture of one anywhere.

And very good it looks too Kevin. Old Hornby tinplate coaches seem to fit in with just about anything

The other photos are likely to disappear now the auction has ended so I'm putting them here for future reference.

Gosh, - a Marklin loco! That makes it even more unlikely that I should end up with one. It must've come to me in a box of old tinplate 'junk' as I certainly don't remember buying it as an individual item. The trademark is printed on the floor of the cab, but also has a great big slot stamped through the middle of it for the tender coupling which is how I made the mistake thinking it was by Bing. Thanks very much Mark, - I might not be any further ahead, but at least I know what I've got now. I can only find pictures of what I assume are later ones that don't have the nice Midland crest, separate splashers and other small details, but nothing that resembles my one. At least I do know what the tender looks like now, though it might have to make do with a No.1 Hornby one for a while until something else turns up.

Many early Australian goods wagons and coaches are very plainly British designs, - sometimes sourced from British makers, - or else heavily influenced by British designs. Much of this was due to engineering staff having been formerly employed by various railways in Britain. Quite often it's almost impossible to tell if a photo of an early Australian wagon is British or not if there's nothing to reference it to its location. I'll most probably use that photo to create a simplified coarse scale model for 'Foxwater' which being an imaginary 'what if' little railway might have had one built to their own order.

Those sheep wagons are certainly interesting and would be a fun subject for a model. One of the Australian railways had some that were just about direct copies of those. Did any of the English railways use sheep wagons? I've only ever seen photos of Scottish ones. !9th Century NSWGR sheep wagon.

I finally got my old laptop setup to download pictures from my aged cellphone so here's two not very good pictures of the Bing bodyshell in company with a down on its luck Hornby bodyshell to give an idea of size. The original clockwork mech must've been quite slender as a modern coarse scale electric conversion chassis with its sideplates at the usual 'O' gauge spacing wouldn't fit as it was too wide. Pity really as in all its other dimensions it would have been perfect. I don't know what I'm going to do with a Midland Railway loco should I be able to sort out a tender and a mech for it, but really it's too nice just to put away in storage again.

The old loco sold for £87.00 which I thought was a fair price. Hopefully it's gone to a good home and will be returned to working condition again.

Good to hear Coronach. Sad though that your Dad didn't live to carry out his dream A warning perhaps to us older ones to stop mucking around and get on with things if we what to see our plans and ideas come to fruition before we get promoted to glory.

I've always had a fondness for complete railway plans. Unfortunately they tend to need either a large amount of space or a very small modelling scale in which to do them justice. I've seen some complete systems achieved in smaller spaces by layering baseboards over one another, but this is always tricky to achieve in a way that doesn't either offend the eye or lead to the use of severe gradients or both! I liked this plan right from the moment I first saw it so I really do hope that you will be able to build it.

Wonderful to see work started on the almost a K2. Some years ago I modelled the Furness so I'm always pleased to see a Furness based model. With all the pre-group suitable items now available for 00 I've been tempted more than once to return to 4mm modelling, but at my age and with this illness I have 7mm is the smallest I can successfully work in. (le sigh).

I like the look of the proposed station plan, but then I suppose I'm looking at with my light railway bias to the fore where short platforms and trains are pretty much the normal thing. Depending on the space you have for a layout the small station might be fine where it is if the old and familiar method of an overbridge was used as a scenic break. Such things were commonly done when I was younger before the finescale mindset swept away the older kinds of simple representational approach to layout building. The fact that half the train was still in the other station yard wasn't a problem because one's attention had shifted to the station where the train was about to arrive. I will say though that I do agree that having the small station if front of a fiddle yard would swiftly become annoying even if your coupling and uncoupling systems did manage to operate with Swiss watch precision. Not ever having the desire to exhibit I've always had my fiddle yards open and accessible as it tends to keep unladylike profanity to a minimum.

More than likely depends on the weather. That looks like a calm fine day, but if the wind was blowing fiercely they'd be all standing with their fundaments windward. I'm of the random facing school myself when it comes to placing sheep on a layout because every day on my layouts is fine and lovely.

Very nice and as you say very old school Hornby. Not being a GWR modeller (except in the digital world) I don't have a use for a Burnel timber viaduct and the thought of actually building one is somewhat frightening so this would certainly be one way of doing it.

It's interesting though that the 7mm scale retaining wall of the same type by LCUT is a lot more shallow. The slope back from top to bottom of the retaining wall is still there as it should be, but the recesses are notably less deep. I'm going to be needing some of these for 'Foxwater' and I must say they are very nice..

Scrapping good clockwork mechanisms would be awful and would mark you out forever among tinplate train enthusiasts as the man who knowing and with aforethought scrapped 50 clockwork mechanisms. You would become a pariah and a target for any fanatical tinplate enthusiast with access to a shotgun and a backhoe. Perhaps I exaggerate a little, but I'm sure I can't be the only 'clocker' nut when it comes to 'O' gauge and anything you have would be highly saleable on ebay. I would love to be able to say, 'I'll take the lot,' and hand over a wedge of cash, but I'm an old lady of slender means so I can't. Hornby would be my main interest, but any you might sell would have to be cheap though.

Beautiful work with those transfers Gary I hope things improve for you soon. Health issues can be bad enough as I well know, but when combined with the circumstances of one's life going pear shaped as well it can all get a bit too much.

Not wanting to clutter up your thread too much Edwardian, but as someone who lives with a debilitating illness railway modelling is very much my positive 'cheer up' therapy. When I can't do physical modelling I build railways using Trainz Simulator, - which I do realise is not everyone's cup of tea, - which has done great things for my general sense of well being. I've been enjoying following CA as I slowly begin to take my own first steps into building a pre-group era light railway somewhere (very somewhere!) in LSWR territory. Even though I will be working in coarse scale 'O' I'm hoping that I can capture the spirit and atmosphere of these times when the steam railways were at their finest.

As small independent railways that didn't get absorbed by the GWR until 1917 the Liskeard & Caradon and the Liskerad & Looe railways are fascinating. I've been labouring over a digital representation for Trainz Simulator, but haven't been getting very far as yet.

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Nice work on the old Triang 'Nellie'. Many years ago I converted one of these to an 0-6-0 by using a Triang TT chassis and fitting two rail Hornby Dublo wheels and axles to it. It wasn't at all difficult to do and the TT chassis fitted like it was meant to go there. The overall appearance of the conversion was very good and looked quite plausible. Unfortunately someone stole it from me while at the model railway club I belonged to at the time which was very upsetting.