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This is going to be great when finished, very impressive so far.Glad to see you use proper measurements ie;imperial not this fancy continental rubbish which will never catch on.
all the best
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I've just found your work on here. Your layout is beautiful, and you are so fast as well!
Thank you, the reason for the relatively speedy progress is I have most of the day as I am retired now. and enjoy the modelling side of the hobby, other aspects such as wiring the layout take me forever with little discernible progress.
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The builders have gone. so I thought i would see what the Railway terrace looked like in situ, it still needs a load of work doing to get it to sit right in its new home, and sort the road and landscaping around it. also I dont know if I should make small back gardens or as space is tight go for backyards. I have only quickly plonked the terrace in position and still need to finish off the drain pipes and gutters on the rear of the building.
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The builders wont work today as its Valentines Day, the union wont let them they claim. they didn't do much yesterday after stuffing themselves stupid on pancakes on Pancake day. Two chaps turned up carrying a giant matchstick, one had a box on his head,thats something you don't see everyday. they did make a bit of a start on the roof and made some ridge tiles out of a shredded wheat box ( other breakfast cereals are available ) hope they can manage a full day tomorrow, before they stop for the weekend.
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The builders have been back today and claim that they have sourced a sustainable means of cladding the building which is cost effective and cheap. which dosen't involve any scaffolding and can be fixed with a prit stick ( other glues are available ). and can be done from the comfort of the front room, we shall see. Here is what they propose. google earth street view of part of the terrace as it is today . photo shopped to make three parts, the bay window from another building again adjusted to fit to allow for it to wrap round the bay. a similar treatment to the rear of the terrace. This will all be done in a trice guv they say. This is what we have got.
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Great modelling, wish i had a settee.
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you've really got a hold on me - the beatles
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Here is some historical background information on the line courtesy of Wikipedia.
Westerham Valley Branch LineFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, searchThis article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (February 2012) [hide]Westerham Valley Branch Line Westerham Brasted Chevening Halt Dunton Green South Eastern Main LineThe Westerham Valley Branch Line was a short railway line in Kent that connected Westerham, Brasted and Chevening with the village of Dunton Green and the South Eastern Main Line, a distance of 4.5 miles (7.2 km).
ContentsHistoryAuthorisation for the construction of the line was obtained in 1864, 1867 and 1870 by the South Eastern Railway (SER). No works having been undertaken by 1876, several local inhabitants, aware of the advantages of the railway and impatient for action, rallied together to sponsor a bill similar to the original 1864 bill.[1] The line was to be built in two phases: phase one from Dunton Green via Brasted to Westerham, and phase two covering the 4 miles from Westerham to Oxted, where it would join the Oxted Line, the construction of which had not by then been completed. However, the second phase was never realised due in part to opposition in the House of Commons and in part to the wet and marshy terrain between Westerham and Oxted.[2]
The line was authorised on 24 July 1876 and the Westerham Valley Railway Company was formed to oversee its construction and to take over formal ownership. An agreement was then concluded in 1879 with the South Eastern Railway by which the latter would undertake the construction works and eventually operate the line. The actual cost of construction was in the region of £70,000 and the line opened on 7 July 1881. Initially, the service ran only from Westerham to Dunton Green where passengers wishing to travel to London Charing Cross (via Cannon Street) would have to change. Formal ownership of the line was transferred to the South Eastern Railway in August 1881 at which point the Westerham Valley Railway Company was dissolved.
In 1899, SER merged with its bitter rival, the London, Chatham and Dover Railway (LCDR) to form the South Eastern and Chatham Railway (SECR).
In 1923, the Westerham Valley Branch, together with its operators the SECR, became part of the Southern Railway at the grouping.
DeclineThe Southern Railway was nationalised in 1948 and became the Southern Region of British Railways.
The line began to suffer competition with buses, notably the 403 route which ran from Croydon via Sanderstead, Chelsham and Westerham to Sevenoaks, and as train fares rose dramatically from 1938, passenger numbers fell. By 1955 the line was reported to be losing £11,600 per month and a proposal was made to close it in April 1960. However, the Central Transport Users' Consultative Committee argued against this move, claiming that 200 passengers per day used the line.
This advice was rejected by the then Minister of Transport, Ernest Marples, and the last day of operation of the line would be 28 October 1961. He rejected a petition against closure signed by almost 2,500 local inhabitants and presented by the MP for Sevenoaks, John Rodgers. The Minister claimed that service was losing £26,000 per year which was equivalent to £150 per passenger. One of the last trains to run was the "Westerham Flyer", a Class H 0-4-4T No. 31518 flying a Union Jack and bearing the notice "Flyer 1881-1961".
Attempted revival Westerham Valley Railway AssociationIn 1962, the Westerham Valley Railway Association, born of a merger between two local interest groups, the Westerham Branch Railway Passengers' Association and the Westerham Valley Railway Society, began to investigate the possibility of re-opening the line, staffed by volunteers, for commuters on weekdays and as a heritage railway at weekends between April and October. British Railways offered the ownership of the line for £30,000 on the basis that a commuter service would be provided, thereby allowing it to cease its subsidies of bus services which were now over-subscribed following the closure of the Westerham branch. In July 1962, British Railways granted a lease of Westerham Station building, which became the Headquarters of the Association. A lease of Brasted Station was also later agreed.
Offer to purchase the lineHowever, British Railways were later to change their policy regarding the disposal of disused branch lines and, as they had done with the Bluebell Railway, were no longer prepared to simply lease the line to a private operator. Instead, they now required an outright sale of the line to the Association for £53,000. Thanks to the help of an anonymous backer, the Association was able to put forward an offer of £30,000 for the track, buildings, land and branch platform at Dunton Green. British Railways accepted this offer subject to the condition that a commuter service be provided, thereby enabling it to cease its annual subsidy of £8,700 towards the additional bus services laid on following the line's closure.
Intervention of the Kent County CouncilThe withdrawal of the backer following the refusal of his planning application to develop land at Westerham Station cast serious doubt on the proposed re-opening. In the Association's Annual General Meeting on 2 November 1963, members were informed that efforts to raise the £30,000 plus £10,000 for equipment had failed. Furthermore, British Railways were now in talks with the Kent County Council regarding the sale of the line to enable the construction of the proposed "Orbital Motorway", what would later become the M25 motorway.
The A21 near Chevening crossing the route of the line running left to rightMore positive news was received later in November 1963 when it was revealed that not only had a new backer been found, but also that terms were agreed with British Railways for the sale of the land to the Association. However, one month later, Kent County Council contacted the Association and informed them that the Council's intended purchase of the land would save taxpayers the sum of £120,000 and, furthermore, that in the event British Railways were unwilling to sell the land to it, as had been intimated, compulsory purchase powers would be used. Faced with the prospect of a compulsory sale, British Railways now broke off negotiations with the Association and agreed to sell the line to the Council.
Westerham Valley Railway Association platform ticketHowever, in April 1964, the Council indicated their willingness to lease the line to the Association, thereby ensuring the line's continued existence if the Association were to come up with the cost of constructing a bridge over the railway cutting at Chevening to enable the Sevenoaks bypass to cross it. The cost of this bridge was estimated by the Council at £14,000, added to which was the annual rent of the line of £3,000. The estimate of £14,000 was revised upwards in August 1964, to a figure of £26,215 (equivalent to £355,800 in modern currency) which was to be paid by 24 August, otherwise works would commence to infill the cutting.
Purchase of rolling stockIn the meantime, the purchase of several former Metropolitan Railway coaches and a Class H 0-4-4 locomotive No. 31263 had been agreed and were awaiting collection. Initially, British Railways had allowed the stock to be stored at Dunton Green, but since the intervention of the Kent County Council, it became 'reluctant' to allow this and threatened to scrap the stock were it not collected. The coaches were loaned and later sold to the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway and the locomotive to the Bluebell Railway where it remains today.
Final daysBy November 1964 the funds to construct the bridge had still not been found and, following the infilling of the Chevening cutting, the Association realised that their plans to re-open the line could no longer be realised. This was notwithstanding intervention by the MP for Faversham, Terence Boston, who unsuccessfully attempted to persuade the new Labour Minister of Transport, Tom Fraser, to hold an enquiry into the County Council's plans to convert the line into motorway.
In autumn 1965, the Association merged with the Kent & East Sussex Railway Preservation Society. By March 1967 the railway track had been lifted and Westerham Station demolished. Works on the section of the M25 from Sundridge Road to Westerham commenced in December 1976 and were completed in December 1979.
The line todaySave for the section taken by the M25, a surprising amount of the line still remains and it is possible to walk from Dunton Green as far as junction 5 on the motorway which is situated near Chevening. Nothing remains of the three stations, save for several houses in Railway Terrace, Westerham, near the site of the old station. The site of Westerham station is now covered by a road known as "The Flyers Way" after the train which ran on its final day of operation. Perhaps of additional interest to collectors of railway memorabilia is the extreme rarity of the former Southern Railway target station sign for Brasted, which currently (2008) holds the record of £3250 for the highest price paid at auction for such a sign. The site of Brasted station is now under the westbound hard shoulder lane of the M25 although the station approach road and site of the goods yard can be seen alongside the motorway. The site of Chevening Halt is now a field alongside the M25/A21 interchange although it is possible the platform may still exist buried when the cutting was infilled for the M25/A21 roadworks.
References- Winkworth, D.W. (September 1952). "The Westerham Valley Branch" (PDF). The Railway Magazine: 624–6. Retrieved 2007-09-08.
- Gould, David (1974). Westerham Valley Railway. Lingfield, Surrey: The Oakwood Press. ISBN 0-85361-147-5.
- Gould, David (1999). Westerham Valley Railway. Monmouth: The Oakwood Press. ISBN 0-85361-515-2.
- "Walking part of the Westerham Branch Line". Retrieved 2007-08-09.
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Another good book is Middleton Press. Orpington to Tonbridge including the branch line to Westerham IBSN 1-873793-03-0, I have put a letter to santa up the chimmney for a Push -Pull but i think it will probably go the same way as the world war two carrier pigeon message that the code breakers at Mi5 have got now !!An excellent and atmospheric layout; well done.
Are you going to have a go at the push pull?
I have only recently acquired the Oakmore Press book on the line (I live quite locally) and was most intriged to hear of that the line was for a brief period a preserved railway. Shame so much of it is underneath the M25 now as it looked much more peaceful in those grand videos that Cromptonut linked too.
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I am amazed by the interest shown in my layout of Westerham station, have taken a few more pics. as mentioned its a work in progress and I am finding it very rewarding, its better than watching daytime TV!!! Its great fun finding things out that you didnt know or had half forgotten, what a useful tool the internet is .
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Thank you all for your kind response to my half finished model of westerham station. if it evokes happy memories of a past era when the sun shone and the world was changing from black and white to colour so much the better. there is a fiddle yard to build the other side of the bridge.a small row of terraced houses. the left hand end of the board to finish. a few people and a small warehouse . and point control by rod and tube. I wish i hadnt waited so long to get started happy days..
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Thanks, I did contemplate trying to photograph the downs but wasnt quite certain of the end result so took the easy option. I may try to flat the scene down with matt varnish. You know the area well Its a shame its all changed, but thank goodness for Photoshop.
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Many thanks for encouragement, most of of my information on the line comes from two books. 1. Orpington to Tonbridge line by V Mitchell and Keith Smith
2. The Westerham Valley Railway by D Gould. I have always wanted to build a model of this station and now have the time,it was my intention to build it in N gauge but I soon realised the eyes would not be up to it. Yes like the real line trains are few and far between I think they may appear at the same time as my birthday. Who can forget the traffic jams in Westerham high street caused by a special constable directing traffic at the junction of london road on bank holidays. Long Live Rock and Roll.
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Thanks for the link,
The trees are a mix of woodland scenics and clump foliage. like yourself i am from Saaahf of the river but now live in the West Midlands. The line was closed in 1961 and is based on the original trackplan but compressed to fit.
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This is my first attempt at railway modelling since I was 15, now I am 65 (edit update 76, now77) and retired and have the time, I can at last have a go at building a layout.
The Westerham Valley Railway was the ideal line for me to model and Westerham Station in particular.
I remembered the branch line from my youth when i used to cycle past the station. It is built in my garage and is 10ft x 2ft here are a few pics of whats happening so far.
The time had come. Retirement day. This was it, the big one, but what was I going to do to keep myself busy? Reading perhaps, watch day time television (tried that for a morning, soon gave that up), a bit of gardening, time to relax and take things easy I thought. I had been thinking about building a model railway for 50+ years, and had even been given an oo gauge Hornby Jinty and 3 coal wagons by my son for my 60th birthday with the comment “now you will have to build a model railway. You’ve been going on about it long enough, and why do you keep all those old model railway magazines from 1958 if you’re not going to build it?” He had touched a nerve there.
I had a collection of model railway magazines that I had kept from when I was twelve years old, when I had been given a Triang Princess Elizabeth train set for Christmas. That had been my only schoolboy attempt at a model railway, cardboard boxes for tunnels, Dinkey toys for the cars, toy soldiers for the passengers, all perfectly to scale in my view. The years passed by, no railway modelling but I still was interested in all things railway and steam.
Inspiration for the layout.
I used to cycle a lot, and one of my rides used to take me through Dunton Green to Westerham in Kent. This followed the route of the Westerham Valley Railway. The line had a small halt at Chevening, and a typical S.E.R country station and goods yard at Brasted, then finally the terminus at Westerham which looked like a perfect model railway with only a tiny signal cabin made from weatherboarding and a slate roof, a Water Tank perched on six spindly legs, a relatively large country goods yard with a medium sized goods shed constructed from clapboard, and a yard crane outside, the remains of the old engine shed which had been damaged in a gale many years previous and which had been demolished (just leaving the brick base with some railings which served no apparent purpose.) The water crane had also been damaged at some point, and was supported by a piece of bull head rail. The Station building itself was a rather lopsided affair, the canopy didn’t quite extend the full length of the building as the station itself had been extended at some time. It was constructed from the usual S.E.R. weatherboarding resting on a brick base as were the other buildings, and it badly needed repainting.
Westerham town was close by and the R F Greenline coach to London stopped right outside the station. Opposite the station stood the Crown Hotel, and a small country school with a Kentish rag stone wall outside.
The line itself was only 4 and three quarter miles long with no steep gradients or tight curves. Westerham is approximately 20 miles from London, and is situated on the south side of the North Downs. Sir Winston Churchills’ home at Chartwell is nearby, but there is no record of him ever using the line, although stone for his garden, and maggots for fish in his lake were delivered by rail to the station for collection.
The Railway was opened on the 6th of July 1881 at a cost of £70,000. The line closed on the 28th October 1961. An attempt at preservation was made but unfortunately failed after 2years. The only things remaining from those days are the base of the goods yard crane and the old station house. The rest is beneath the M25 motorway or Modern Factory units. Such is progress!
“But where is this reminiscing leading us all?” I hear you mumble. Well, how about making a model of Westerham Station in my garage? That should keep me busy, and researching it would provide yet another interest when it was too cold to work outside in the garden.
Digging out my 1958 railway modelling magazine and chasing some cobwebs away, I started to gen up on some of the things about railway modelling that I had forgotten. Most of the articles seemed to be written by retired vicars and admirals with plenty of time on their hands. I was deep into an article about making your own point motors from ex GPO solenoids, cotton reels and a six inch nail all of which were readily available for a few coppers from your local government surplus store, (now a fast food shop) when it slowly dawned on me that time had marched on from when I was a lad and Biggles was still pc. So I rushed out and bought a copy of the latest railway modelling mag. What an eye opener! Sawdust and dry tea leaves were out, static grass was in, along with realistic engines, rolling stock, and buildings that looked like the real thing. It seemed that the third rail and moulded ballast system had gone too. ( 5 shillings pocket money was not going to go far!)
Right then, out to the garage and make a start. First things first, a cup of tea. That’s better, now to insulate and dryline the garage wall, then fix some battens at 40” height to support the base board. The baseboard size was to be 10ft X 2ft., which was made from 2” x 1” timber covered with some 5mm MDF that was left over from making a pelmet for the lounge!
Please note that throughout that it is no problem for me to switch from imperial to metric measurements as the mood takes me, and that a lot of things that I use are left over from various DIY jobs around the house, as my pocket money does not stretch very far these days. I will now know what to ask for at birthday and Christmas time!
The space that was available in the garage was 10ft x 7ft, so this was partitioned off, leaving the rest of the garage for the usual junk that you accumulate, if like me you never throw anything away. This was now about to prove a useful habit. The dry lined wall was painted with some left over emulsion, a coat of matt magnolia and a pale blue which was faded into It., Sounds rather horrible, but with some fluffy white clouds sponged on looks not too bad. (Should I do the same in the kitchen? better not said the wife).
Rummaging in the pile of junk now residing in the small part that was left of the garage, were some 5mm fibre boards used to insulate the laminate flooring that we fitted.
“Ah ha” I exclaimed. “Just the job for covering the baseboard with! Further investigation in the pile of junk turned up a part used tub of flooring adhesive. This was used to fix the boards to the MDF and when dry a coat of neat PVA was used to seal it all.
Westerham Station Construction.
I realised that all the buildings and other bits and bobs would have to be scratch built, but I thought that’s why it’s called railway modelling.
In my mind’s eye it was important that some key areas were modelled, i.e the road outside the station, the hotel, large billboard, allotment, water tank, and a representation of the school with its Kentish rag stone wall, also the belisha beacons, the holly bush on the station platform, and the road down to the goods shed. All insignificant items by themselves but added together made the whole. But some compromises would need to be made with the track plan and location of some items to fit the space available. The track plan that I chose to model is the pre 1930 version which still had the connection from the loading dock to the run around loop.
It was never my intention to try to replicate an exact copy of the site of Westerham Station for several reasons, one being that it would be something that I would never be able to achieve in a month of Sunday’s, and another was that this was supposed to be fun. Not a chore.
A left over roll of wallpaper was used to draw the track plan and road on, and when I was fairly happy that most of the key elements could be accommodated, it was transferred to the baseboard, the track was set at angle running into the right hand corner which gave a slighter longer length of track and a greater illusion of distance, by doing this it let me accommodate the road, hotel and school. At this stage I realised that some different ground levels would have to be built into the baseboard, as the platform was level with the road outside the station, which when it reached the road down to the Goods Yard dropped to track level!
When I had finished scratching my head, and most of my stuffing had fallen out, a solution to my problem was found. Back in the junk hole was some left over plasterboard from the dry lining which would make the roadway and platform. It was cut to the shape needed for the road, and a separate piece used for the platform which was suitably ramped at either end. This was all stuck down using the flooring adhesive, the paper layer was stripped off the plasterboard and the course of the road marked out with pencil onto the plaster surface. This was shaped with a scraper to form the camber of the road and then sloped down to the goods yard. The platform surface was created by using some left over (here we go again) cushion floor from doing the bathroom floor, and fixed to the plaster platform with the flooring adhesive. this was set back from the platform edge to allow for the platform edging bricks, which were made from plasticard match boarding, cut across the width of the sheet and mounted onto a strip of card to bring it up to the platform surface height. The face of the platform is a mixture of Wills and Slaters plasticard, the surface of the platform was sanded to give a worn look (a bit like myself). The allotment vegetables are plasticine and strands of static grass fibers with touches of paint highlights.
Creating the buildings.
Station buildings are made from drawings of the originals which are in David Goulds excellent book, Westerham Valley Railway. Published by Oakwood Press. My methods of construction have been used by countless modellers and are well known. Suffice it to say that they are made from good quality card about 1.5mm thick and covered with the appropriate plasticard. The Water Tank is made from the Dapol Kit which was twice the size needed and had only 4 legs. Two more legs were made and the tank reduced in size. Another building to come under the scalpel (by now I was beginning to feel like a mad surgeon) was the Crown Hotel, which started life as the Superquick Hotel. This was reduced to a low relief structure with the roof and chimneys altered and a side addition added.
I had decided from the outset to only model detail that I was able to see with my glasses on and at a reasonable viewing distance!
Fencing, railings, street lights and lamp hut are all brought items (why try to reinvent the wheel) the fencing has been strung using cotton. The loading gauge is Ratio but as is typical, nothing like the one at Westerham, so that came under the knife. Likewise the ringed starting signal for the goods yard. Bits of a Biro tube, a handle from the water tank and some rolled up paper, made the Water Crane. Platform lights are plastic rod and paper clips suitably bent, a yard light was made from plastic tube and wire, the Belisha Beacons are berry pins with the plastic covering from paper clips used to make the black and white rings. Other buildings have been scaled from old photographs.
Painting.
Everything has been painted using matt colours, white and black have not been used at all only as basis for changing tones of colours. Where you see white or black used on the layout, it is in fact very light, or very dark grey. Road vehicles have all been sprayed using Railmatch matt varnish and the tyres have been “dirtied” using a clay wash grime dye. The same dye has been used on all the rolling stock.
This is something I was very apprehensive of doing, but once started I found it to be great fun and very easy to use. My method was to brush it all over the piece of rolling stock, and then wipe it off with a damp brush and a cotton bud until the desired effect was achieved. Pastel chalks have also been used to add extra colour and highlights where needed.
Scenery and Backscene.
The backscene is a bought one, but has had the sky cut off and about 4” cut from the base it was a bit short by 2ft but that has been hidden at each end by trees.
The scene on the left hand side of the layout was made by using a screen shot of Westerham in Google earth, and modifying it in Photoshop.
The trees on the layout are a mix of Woodlands Scenics fine green foliage, and some that I made using bits of a bush that was growing in the garden. These were soaked in a mix of glycerine and water, left to dry, then spray glued and dipped in some scatter. Grass has been put down using a homemade static grass gun made from a battery powered bug zapper and a cut down metal tea strainer details which I found on You tube (cost about £3). I did tell you it was all built with saving money in mind!
The Period Modelled and Rolling Stock.
The period that I am modelling is 1955 to closure. Some of the motive power used during the railways life were: The Sentinel Railbus, Peebles steam railcar, Steam motor car No 3, Q class, O1class,R1 class,B1 class, H class, and an unbelievable eleven coach special excursion pulled by No 34017 Ilfracombe Bulleid Light Pacific.
Track & Point operation.
All of the track is Peco code 75 & live frog points. The points are operated by Wire and Tube using switches mounted on a panel at the front of the baseboard.
Control.
Analogue using a Gaugemaster 100m controller
The Future.
Originally, I had planned to have a small fiddle yard the other side of the partion, but have abandoned this idea and instead will continue the line round to the opposite side of the garage in a U shape and build Brasted Station. Now that sounds like a plan.
This has been such a pleasure to research and build that I wish that I had done it years go.
Edit: This page was updated on the 8th of December 2015, the text is from the article I wrote for the November 2014BRM which featured Westerham Station.
Thank you all who have visited and commented on the following pages. All the best Adrian.
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Westerham, + Weald. Tarmac surface for the platform
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Thank you for your comments, he really winds me up the bloke on cowboy builders, like most of the them on daytime tv. Thank goodness for railway modelling, The fun of modelling a real location for me, is the different details you find out, which most of the time have nothing to do with what you are actual trying to make.