Graham456

On 30/01/2023 at 12:27, russell price said:

Is it the version with a single driven axle or both axles driven?? I have both types but both now have modified Triang  power bogies fitted. 

Well their you go !

didn’t know their were two versions of power bogie, mine is driven on both axels of the bogie,it doesn’t take much imagination to work out I have the better version 

I think the single axel drive unit if fitted with a triang serrated wheel (yes I know that would be hard,I am not recommend it)

would made a good track file the way it would slip.

still fiddling around with the glazing in the cabs you have to cut the glazing to a funny shape to fit the front windows and locating lumps  in the cab and triangular windows between the main and side windows,but the power unit is fixed and the motor bearing stays in place

 now do I bother with seats ? Or is that going way over the top for what was over classed by Lima never mind Heljan not that I have even seen one of them yet !

O! God ! I have only gone and bought another one.

visiting the junk emporium on the promenade in Watchet on Friday  their were three K’s kits ,a gwr  dean goods part built and a mogul nether with a motor,requiring handrails and painting and the mogul was missing connecting rods and crossheads, these were  early kits with the all metal wheels not the plastic centre sort sadly the mogul was badly quartered 

resisted the temptation at £15 each,

 but came home with a GWR AC railcar Nicely painted  non running also £15.

spent today fitting glazing such fun ! Made a bit easier by having to remove the bogies ,well the non powered one was all ready off and having fiddled and had a right caddal later the powered one was out, to get at the windows,

found the problem, the bearing on the armature was free in the magnet jamming the armature up,it’s all cleaned up and I await the bearing lock/seal to go off over night,

 I was quite surprised by how well the power bogie ran untill I realised I was going to have to glue up the bearing for a longer term fix, quite why ii am doing this other than I didn’t have one of these by K’s as I have a couple of Lima versions and two Dapol earlier types not to mention a two car set  kit to do one day

some one go and rescue the other two kits before I succumb 

34 minutes ago, Gilbert said:

They were excellent  but queuing for exhibitors food with a token was not very practical - we ate about 2.25pm when the queues died down...having said that we did treat ourselves to breakfast rolls at opening time...

Yes I think the popularity of the show in the morning would have pleased the show organisers, the food from the Land Rover is of good quality and not muckdonnalds,I will double check at the next Burnham. Show ( by double check you can take that as two visits to the Land Rover with a thatched roof !

by the way the wife had a  steak and ale pie not a stake ! As I said in my last post 

4 minutes ago, Gilbert said:

I was helping with a layout that needed us "out front"....it was certainly busy......how was the pub out of interest?

Chris H

Well it was a marstons where I had a not to bad roast and my wife a stake and ale pie with mash, normally I eat from the Land Rover burger bar that’s outside the door when it’s at the burnham show and that’s good as well (country bumpkins catering)

1 hour ago, Rich Papper said:

Thanks for the video Callum - I didn't see most of them!

Rich

Is that because of the crowds! Corr! Blimey it was busy as bad as warley, I went for dinner in the pub across the road and came back later when the crowds had gone down,,good show with good layouts, it might have been busy in the morning.but it was good to see loads of families with kids being shown our hobby 

On 21/12/2022 at 18:00, decauville1126 said:

Now is the time to flog it on ebay!

 

Things have moved on vastly since their day and I've found the High-Level gearboxes and motor range excellent

Did I just read this as flog it on e,bay as I need some portescaps;

great as high level and mashinas were ( I haven’t used any since the demise of mashima and don’t know what to use with my high level gearbox on the next loco) I don’t think it’s worth the cost of changing the portescap, it was a stratospheric jump in quality from mw1001 and Romford gears to the porsiscrape as I call them, the jump to mashima and high level is not so large I just miss the bevel gears from. a poriscape 

 as aside all my portiscape still go even the first on I bought for £17.50 new back in the days of it just being Keen. pre maygib days but I have relubed them as the red stuff they come oiled with gets sticky over near fourty years

just did a check and I have 14 locos fitted with portiscaps ! At fifty quid a throw second hand quite a hall if I flogged them but then what would it cost to change them ? Something to NOT think about over the Christmas drivel on the box season 

Why did I go ya ho ! At this announcement and pictures and wonder if a bit of Jason’s fun nuttiness might mean a blue liveried one could be on the on cards, with the number 7 and maybe a red name plate “Nellie” as a new and improved model, polly or connie if you want a yellow or red version !!

boringly perhaps a NER one will do for now for me

On 24/09/2022 at 14:03, kevinlms said:

Owners?

Thank you kevinlms i asked for that I suppose !

it is true though the bits swap owners but I never seam to swap anything other than money. for Either, junk, sad cases needing rescuing, more work, but it's all better than watching T V

59 minutes ago, 41516 said:

 

Sadly not! Prototypes were 1938-1949 builds, so they should be either LMS Bauxite or the later austerity unpainted wood finishes.

So not only do you not paint the non existent roof black you don't paint the sides light gray, good job I haven't got one! So I won't worry yet..........bet I see one at a swap meet now!........did any one ever swap something at a swap meet ?

Thankfully 41515 has been more helpful than K's are to you  on page 19 is revealed.......

L M S shock Absorbing Wagon  7s 6d plus 1s 3D purchase tax !

livery. Light gray, black underframe,and black roof ?????? White lettering,.

was that worth the wait ?

graham

the picture shows a gray inside to the wagon, and you will be surprised at no black roof! On a open with a running number 81103 but I wouldn't rely on that.

41515 build of the wagon shows that very nice wagon can be made from the kit, showing with a bit of care Keyser kit are more than alright.

21 hours ago, hayfield said:

 

 

I bought one, broke it after a few months, 12v not very powerful

A Ha !

So that drill was the prototype which was developed into the HP2M 

your drill was powered by the HP1M ?

second K's pannier all ready has new chimney and etched guard rails over the rear cab windows, next to rat around in the junk stash for the forward step that was absent, tut for six quid you thought it would be compleat, !

4 hours ago, kevinlms said:

 

It might have done better on a feedback controller, but then perhaps the smoke would escape!

I know Hayfield said it ran off the rail power  but a Feedback controller ! Next your going to suggest a DCC chip !

  You Can Not Be Serious ! ................O !   you weren't  for this long burnt out drill    grinning 

would funtion F7 release the smoke ? On DCC 

1 hour ago, hayfield said:

 

 

With the K's 14xx kits I have never seen either brake shoes or inside motion. Perhaps these may have either been available as separate items or been a future development ?

Well the blurb and picture for the 14XX don't mention brake gear any more did I  but the pannier does.and shows it 

1 hour ago, hayfield said:

 

What is the year of the book ?

 

As for soldering it was in its infancy in the 60's

 Now I took the date from the price list because I can't find a date of publication on the actual catalogue only a price of one shilling on the cover printed by trefoil printing co uk going by the condition of both catalogue and price list (like new) the two have been together from new so November 1969. Is a best guess

their is a miniature 12volt dc electric hand drill for 32/6d inside on the last page which so generosity comes with ONE no 68 drill WOW ! And a full eighteen inchs of electrical cable, so don't have your transformer to far away!

As for soldering it was in its infancy in the 60's,

when this catalogue was new I was also in my infancy being seven ! But I doubt if much more than another five years passed before I was soldering, wires together white metal kits not long after I left school 

Just aside to. The pannier I bought the other day, I also came away for the grand sum of a pound a K's kits catalogue 

which I read in bed last night,in the blurb about the pannier saying super detailed  cast brake gear,(rarely fitted)  with dummy inside motion ??? Well I can't find it on ether of the two pannier loco's I have acquired this month !

did it exist ? Or was it like the brake shoes left off as a fiddle thing ?

 My catalogue has added separate  price list dated Nov 1969  and the original owner has under lined his dream list which about a quarter of them haveing little ticks which I presume mean he bought them, that is for the wagons  doesn't look like he had as many locos.

 At the back on page 36, Driving wheels are advertised now available separately, ready assembled on the axle for nine shillings and four pence a pair ! What good would they be unless your chassis had the key hole slots to take them ? Don't think any other kits came with key hole slots did they ? Non Keysers that is.

 In the hints and tips section soldering is recommended by being very quick wipe soldering useing a normal iron and solder no mention of low melt ! No wonder if you damage parts you could exchange them is mentioned just above whilst I have used a normal iron on big bits in the past never with full fat solder.

3 hours ago, hayfield said:

 

Its always worth looking a bit closer at any loco kit/kit built loco. Many no mater how bad they look may be hiding expensive gems

I know ! At Minehead toy fair  Fourty five quid bought me a Kemilway 3mt tank loco nicely built apart from the Gloss Finnish, soon let down  with a spray of satin on the green and Matt on the smoke box, powered by a keen portescap,

3 hours ago, hayfield said:

 

A set of Markit wheels will set you back £45 ish for an 0-6-0 loco, etched chassis start at £20 but can go up to £40 or more

. I bought an inexpensive etched chassis from Crispy Bacon and just need a decent gearbox and motor

 All right I found Cris p bacon as a member on here but where does he sell or advertise his chassis ?

On 20/09/2022 at 18:17, hayfield said:

 

The chances are that the K's 14xx will still be going long after the Airfix, certainly far easier to repair

Well you never saw the Keyser one at the toy fair, it was in two bits,chassis-body, unpainted (a plus point)  needing a awfull lot of T L C and as for lasting longer than a Airfix ?

mines done fourty two years easliy, I did buy a branchlines brass gear to replace the plastic one years ago but haven't needed it yet, plenty of life left in the motor brushes yet only half worn down,  it's just the plunger pick ups that need care to check they don't stick

whilst the K's one probable is older it hasn't been finished yet to wear out, and I don't rate it's chances of ever being finished from the look of it

i might be mad but not that nutty

Here I go again, a.couple of weeks ago I surcomed to temptation  a bought a K,s pannier which I remotered to get rid of the hp2m, the rest I kept as keysers supplied as it was OK really for its age, all fine and dandy !

 Until a visit to Ray Heard's Newton Abbott toy fair where another not needed Keysers pannier waved at me, 

SIX POUNDS ?

 Well it had no motor ! But 6 quid...I have only bought another damm one, I only just finished the other one, but this one I will update a bit..........the chimney is poor being undernourished and leaning, a quick test by pressing a bit proved it was glued on, which it no longer is ! Spair  box raided for old dizzy Walker casting, eyeing up the mainly trains etch for pannier window guards, but what to do with the chassis,? Do I go mad and blow the expense?

 Or keep the keyser wheels (D shape axel location)  if I fit markits wheels and a decent gearbox this time remember it only cost the price of ONE WHEEL !

 Why do I do this to my self ?...........I did pass on the £5 14XX ...I would prefer to tackle a airfix 14XX than a Keyser one as I became very proficient with them working in a model shop back in 1980/81 but I am running out of  new plunger pickups keeping mine going from new for fourty years, ...as my old boss is now dead,  I can admit yes I did pick the best runner when testing the delivery back then

Jason said

Why do second hand kits always have missing instructions? What do they do with them!?

Maybe  with pre built kits the first owner didn't  need reminding of what he been through, and once built didn't think he would need to build it again,?

 It's only us mad sods who take on sad cases stuck together with badly mixed aradite who  might need instructions, but I find that it's usually obitus where the boiler,footplate,tanks and the like go and photos of the real thing sort out the fiddly bits

as for unbuilt kits why do people lose instructions?

they most likely studied the instructions, over and over, then realised it was beyond them which is why you can buy the kit, the instructions are still on the work bench terrorising them !

On 16/09/2022 at 20:04, Captain Kernow said:

youthful shyness, many older people may have seemed like 'characters' to me at the time.

 

 Theirs also the posability I am as mad as John was, which is why I didn't notice, I will let you judge at the next staplegrove do !

2 hours ago, Captain Kernow said:

Ah, thanks for that. Memory plays tricks with the passing of time. I do recall the proprietor as being something of a 'character'.

 

I don't know what to think about that comment !

having worked for John Baggott for two and a half years just befor it almagated with Kemp models and the shop crossed the road to a different building John seamed normal to me ? Even if he used to exhibit a 009 rabbit warren in later years, Perhaps that says something about me, He also started up the Bristol 4-14 club covering BS4 and BS14 area's which elvolved in to the Bristol Brunel Model Railway Club which organised the show at temple meads old train shed for years

 even after I left for a better paid job I still went to the now kemp models which John I think was a joint owner with kemp models I did not see a pleather of westward kits on the shelf's, but I do miss the bit's and bobs that are so hard to get now

P S John Baggott died last year

Barclay.

your coal tank doesn't half show up even in its unfinished state what a improvement the chassis  has made to the looks of the body with out the great big slab chassis

2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Saw that and thought I would leave it for someone else. Already got two "fresh" unbuilt SEF Stars in the pile.

 

Funnily enough 4038 Queen Berengaria is one that is on the list as I got the name/number plates in a joblot of something like ten GWR named locomotive plates on eBay a few years back.

 

 

Jason

Thank you for passing it over personally I thought it was to cheep to resist even it I now have  six stars, of the five kit built bargains Hattons sold to me three had double name or number plates, and I refitted Queen Berengaria to a more appropriate star which matched queen berengaria steem pipes,and fittings

 one of the double plates locos a Keyser 55xx had the smokbox plate 5570  on the buffer beam which when removed part revealed 5546 under a touched up buffer beam  which made my mind up in that I them spent a while with cotton buds and white spirit fully revealing the numbering to  reattach the plates and renumber the loco back to the original number it was given befor over plating, such fun !

Roy the bus your not helping me with the resistance to temptation

 I can vaguely your advert but not the details

hint hint !

I like what you have done with these old wagons even loading them with reliant trike vans. But your rope lashings scream at me as not right as the body would not be strong enough being only a wooden frame and aluminium panels, like match sticks to save weight, their is one for sale at the moment and the pictures show how flimsy it is at these points, never mind what it would do to the paint work, I suspect lashings to the wheels would be more prototypical, pulling the front wheel forward and the rears back.not that I have ever recovered a trike van, we didn't have many of them to recover in the Royal Mail but I did recover a Morris 8 van which would have been older than these things from Shrewsbury to Bristol once !

20 hours ago, SR71 said:

 

*Cough*

 

I wouldn't normally blow my own trumpet but having not sold on here these were going on eBay when I next got a chance anyway.

 

I hope no one minds - if you do let me know and I'll hide the post.

 I don't mind ,thankfully I missed you advert on here, but please hurry up and sell um on flea bay  I don't need any more kit temptations lockdown enabled me to reduce 27 to eight to Finnish loco kits as demonstrated a bit weak willed hence the five thankfully built Hattons purchase's this week which just needed fiddling with