Woodcock29

Has anyone else compared the platework on the front of the smokebox of the streamlined version with Prototype photos? The recent closeup photos to show the hole reminded of this matter. The smaller section of platework above the opening 'cods mouth' shouldn't be there. The 'mouth' should actually go higher up. Hornby appear to have copied the platework, although the size is slightly different, from that of an A4.

2 hours ago, Woodcock29 said:

I'll have a look Mark

Andrew

Found the box Mark but no instructions so they must have been thrown out. I normally keep loco and other rollingstock instructions.

My recollection is that they weren't overly helpful in regards to joining all the separate units together if that's what you're looking for?

Here are a couple of photos of mine. In hindsight I think it should be dark grey rather than green.

Andrew

2 hours ago, Mark Laidlay said:

Any chance you still have the instructions?  I'm missing the first one (FB1) re the overall construction.

Mark in Melbourne

I'll have a look Mark

Andrew

5 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Interesting Mark,

 

Could that be the original George Allen etched kit for a footbridge, rebranded by Kemilway?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Correct Tony. I built one maybe 12-13 years ago. I'd had it for maybe 20 years?

Andrew

Chas

My broaches don't have plastic handle coverings they're just square section so I always use a pin vice or tap handle as mentioned above.

Watching with much interest!

Andrew

8 hours ago, maico said:

 

Presumably it can't go round a R4 half circle? 

Wouldn't think so as 4th radius appears to be 572mm whereas the inner radius of a Peco slip is around 24 inches or 610mm for only a very short distance.

The extra nameplates supplied by Hornby, like those for Cock'o the North, look awful to me - nothing like etched brass plates should be. I've recently painted up some old plates I had in stock from the Ks kit to see how the come up for Thane but I'll probably get some from Fox or 247.

I've been playing around with the flanged wheels for the Cartazzi truck and have found that by removing all of the plastic section of the wheel hub on the inner sides back to level with back of the spokes and flange that, when fitted with 30 thou spacers to drop the keeper plate, it will just negotiate the inner 2ft radius curve of a Peco code 75 slip. I also had to put a narrow plastic 20 thou spacer above the axle itself to reduce any tendency to lift.

Andrew

On 07/08/2023 at 09:06, St Enodoc said:

That's right, Colin - in the UK contributions aren't taxed but payments are, whereas here it's the other way round.

Depends where you are. In South Australia super for state govt employees was taken out before tax so I'll always be a tax payer.

4 hours ago, MarkC said:

You speak for all of us who have had the same concerns, Jesse. Practice on some scrap first - drill some holes in narrow offcuts & have a go. Like most intricate jobs, there's a knack to it, but once you've done a few joints, you'll wonder what the fuss was all about!

 

Cheers

Mark

 

A good option is to use brass pins instead of the rivets supplied in some kits. These can be soldered. I've been doing that for as long as I can remember. Tony does the same.

I think I got my first packet of pins from NuCast some 35+ years ago.

Should have read all replies above first!

56 minutes ago, great northern said:

And here is the 6.20 Leeds/Halifax/ Hull, with another Grantham A3 in charge.

and emerging from the gloom.

Wonderful Gilbert - my favourite A3, the one my Dad took me onto the footplate of at Kx around 1962-3.

Andrew

32 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

is Hornby to produce a P2 in 2002's guise? 

Yes they are and I'm informed by Kernow that it's not far away!

Andrew

3 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

 

 

As they can be in this view. I assume other locos on Grantham (of which there are many) have extra pick-ups of some sort. 

 

A V2 I built didn't need extra pick-ups, but it's got a long coupled wheelbase, of course. 

An interesting photo Tony.

I assume the 2-6-2 in this photo is one of Graeme King's concoctions? It looks like an extended K2 with an Atlantic boiler - the GNs forerunner to a V2 perhaps? I think the O2/1 is his modification of a Heljan O2/3.

Although I use Peco code 75 I unfortunately have a few deadfrog slips in my main station area because I reused that station from my previous layout built in early 1990s before Peco made its slips with live frogs. It didn't make economic sense to buy newer live frog slips when I started this current layout in 2006. Other slips adjacent to the reused section are of course live frog. Most of my tender locos have tender pickup and all 4 -coupled tanks have bogie or pony pickups fitted.

Andrew

1 hour ago, MJI said:

Another suitable loco for me i thought i would price up.

 

An LNER U1 would be over 500 all in.

 

Amazing what has run in the lickey route

When I bought mine in 1983 when it was first released, the kit including wheels was 70 plus I think around 30 for the single Portescap I put in it. So 100 all up. I wonder which is better value for the time?

Andrew

On 09/07/2023 at 05:34, 31A said:

 

Welcome back, and thank you for this.  My A5 has hardly turned a wheel in anger yet (lovely model though it is) and I have not come across that problem with it.

 

However, one of my Hornby B12s (61533) has been behaving in the manner you describe, over time getting worse and worse, and I have replaced the motor twice, thinking that was where the problem lay.  However this evening having read your post, I took it apart and hard wired the pickups, bypassing completely the circuit board in the tender.  If anyone's interested, I had to connect orange to red and grey to black inside the tender.  I've just been giving it a good 'work out', and so far it has behaved impeccably.

 

So although inconclusive as regards the A5, I suspect you are onto something.  I don't know whether you use DCC, but if not it ought to be straightforward to bypass the circuit board and all its components.

I had exactly the same issue with a Hornby B12/3 some months ago. It's been fine since I 'gutted' the DCC ready board. I've also had to do this on a Bachmann K3 and WD for a mate.

Andrew

Hi Mick

Thanks for posting your photos. In the first post the second and third photos are of the same van - an LNER CCT built 1939 not what you describe although it maybe a Chivers kit?

I'm glad to see the D&S NER CCT - I'm shortly to strip one of those and repaint it, along with one of the Chivers 4 wheel NER CCTs. Both were acquired built in NER livery and are likely to need some resoldering in places.

Andrew

5 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Mention has been made of late of D&S kits.

 

I must admit to not having built many; only three, but I've found them to be excellent.........

 

 

This, I believe, is called a Milk Van.

 

 

It's seen in company with a kit built from the same source by John Houlden.

 

 

I even chose the same number when I painted it!

 

 

Tony I think there is some confusion here. The painted BR version of this van is one I think you built from a brass Isinglass kit? Its not the same model as the D&S brass one you show above. The end section louvres are different (and incorrect in the etch).

These vans are actually general vans to Dia 86. The milk van version is Dia 87 which didn't have the toplights in the centre section and consequently the louvres in those two sections are directly under the cantrail. D87 was also made by Danny - I acquired a built one last year from a deceased estate in Sydney. I already had a built D&S D86 and have two more of those to build.

The D&S kit is the better kit.

Andrew

3 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

The NER cattle wagon has a "Large" designation but looks like the Wizard/51L Medium van, the Large Cattle wagon kit is from Parkside, hence plastic, and looks quite different. If fitted with etched (preferably compensated) then it would be of interest.

 

Jol

The NE cattle van shown by Tony is a D&S GC cattle van. I said previously that it was a fitted van but now I've had a better look (previously it was just before I went to bed after 12am!) I can see it is just a through- piped van - but should be in red oxide livery. I have 3 of these - a fitted version to build, the through-piped van I built around 40 years ago and an unfitted van purchased built, a few years ago from a friend here in Adelaide. All of these are full whitemetal kits there are no brass components other than the wire for the rails and bearings I supplied - I've just checked the unmade fitted version I have.

Here on the right is the through-piped version I built 40 years ago. The van on the left is a D&S GN cattle van. The GC van shouldn't have a white interior - at that time I didn't know that the the use of lime for cleaning had been discontinued in the mid 20s. Maybe one day I'll remove the roof and repaint the interior.

I bought my first D&S wagon kits from Chris Crawley on Lordship Lane at Tottenham during a visit to the UK back in 1981. I owe a lot of thanks to Danny Pinnock for producing all that he has. Overall I have around 140-150 D&S wagons (with around 30 of these still to be built), many bought new when released by Danny with a few bought on eBay - but not in recent times - I wouldn't pay the silly prices being asked now. I've also purchased quite a few from a friend here in Adelaide as he has down-sized his collection. Last year I bought a batch of 50 built wagons at auction from a deceased estate of one of our BRMA members in Sydney - nearly half I would say were D&S - most need substantial renovation - which is a slow process given the other projects I need to undertake. But that's very acceptable when the average price per wagon was $5.62 or about £3 per wagon. 

Andrew

Agree D&S

Fitted GC cattle so wrong colour - DS67

Fitted GN vent van - DS252

Andrew

3 hours ago, Chas Levin said:

Building my own frame for the unpowered bogie also means I can build in pickups for the wheels, to wire them to the Beetle for better current collection... 

I had additional pick up on the front engine unit of the L&Y railmotor - you can never have too many pickups!

Chas I've now started to follow this closely given I'll eventually be building the same kit and also have second-hand NuCast kit for parts as required.

If you did decide to use both black beetles (not that I think you'll need to) it's not difficult to build one in with a raised floor under seats - I did that with my L&Y steam railmotor as the motor in that is in the coach.

Andrew

On 18/06/2023 at 15:50, DougN said:

Well I've paid the invoice and had a confirmation that its been dispatched but not had anything from Royal mail for tracking. I have watched the Hornby Mag review. I think people are right the NER green that the dome looks to be different colours. It doent bother me as i went for the LNER black. Yesterday discussing with a number local BRMA members we'll have a few G5s heading to this part of the world. 

 

 

Well Doug we'll have one in Adelaide to soon. Couldn't resist it in red lined LNER black! Mine is 1752 though as 2082 was too late for me with push pull.

Andrew

2 hours ago, New Haven Neil said:

Ohhhhhrgh, that Claude....again!  I wish I had bought one of those.

They're very very nice. I actually bought 2 at the same time in one of our model shops here in Adelaide - even before they arrived in UK which was really very strange. One LNER and one BR. The LNER version runs on my horse box train to the imaginary race course on my layout. It's been renumbered to 8810, the one recorded at 90 mph and now has a brass chimney. The BR version renumbered to 62513, one my Dad took a photo of at Cambridge.

I'm still to find time to build my Crownline kit which will become 8900 in LNER green - the plates are waiting. 

We even had a D16/3 back in the late 60s/early 70s as Dad converted a Triang B12/3 intro a D16/3 using a Triang L1 chassis (following an article in MRC I think?) - not sure what happened to that body, I know the L1 got its chassis back eventually and was sold,

Andrew

On the subject of flangeless drivers on the prototype, here in South Australia we had two classes with flangeless leading driving wheels. A 4-6-0 and a 4-6-2T. I have models of both classes and they run with flangeless leading drivers. The 4-6-2T are RTR models but the 4-6-0s are Korean brass and a wm/brass kit built loco.

Here's a preserved example of the 4-6-0

The kit built example with flangeless leading drivers

50 minutes ago, Barry Ten said:

 

They look a lot like Alco PA1s to me.

A lot of South Australian modellers converted PA1s to 900s in previous times. There was a brass Korean model made back in the 1980s but this is the first plastic bodied model.