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One more from 28 August 1963. 5037 Monmouth Castle in a station siding which I have down as Swansea.

Thank you Mike and The Johnster for the info. Here we have a couple more from 28 August 1963.

The first one is taken from a carriage window looking forward while passing a yard between Swansea and Cardiff. The Western Class loco is D1046. Anyone recognise the location?

The second one is an 2-8-0 tank 5238 passing through a station which is between the photo above and Cardiff. Initially I had it down as Cardiff General but on reflection, it hasn't got a footbridge.

Something doesn't sound right in your description.  It is definitely Radyr and the pannier is standing on the Down Relief at Radyr Jcn's Down Relief Home Signal but that is where things end because to get that angle of view the picture must have been taken from ground level and not from a passing train.  And if, as sometimes happened due to engineering work, a passenger train towards  Abercynon had been using the Relief Lines it would have been on the Up Relief which is the line immediately next to the one on which the pannier is standing.  There were four lines on that side of the Up Main platform at that time - the Down Relief (where the pannier is standing), the Up Relief, and then two sidings - the nearest of these to the photographers viewpoint is not visible but the one which has a crossover to it facing out of the Up Relief is visible in the photo.

 

So definitely not taken from a train.

You are correct. Checking my notebook against my catalogue, the next photo in the film strip was a Class 37 D6819 taken at Radyr shed, so I must have alighted from the train there. My notes should actually have referred to this photo, which again I think was taken at Radyr station travelling back from Treherbert to Barry.

Here is the Class 37 photo

Wow, I look forward to seeing them. I visit the area regularly as my wife's god-parents live in Newcastle Emlyn and my parents have a place nearby in Cwrt Newydd. Do you have any photos showing any of the Dairies or milk trains which once served the area?

Hi,

Sory, no photos om milk trains. I was born and bred in Carlisle and only visited Wales and southern England once a year on a railrover which was mainly a shed bashing fortnight.

I have this photo of 3406 recorded as taken at Radyr Station on 22 August 1963 in my catalogue. Can anyone confirm this location. Again, taken from the train while I was on my way from Cardiff to Abercynon.

Taken from a Cardiff-Merthyr dmu which dates it post 1958.  The pannier is heading for the Pontypool line which is marked by the telegraph pole up the bank directly above the lamp in the picture.  Unusual to see a loco heading smokebox first down the valley.  The tips seem a bit close for Aberfan, but I can't think what other colliery they could be; the Taff valley goes into a bit of a rural mode between Abercynon and Merthyr Vale.

The photo was taken on 22 August 1963 while on a all line railrover

Pontypool Road, looking from the station platform towards the west I suspect.

Spot on Mike. Found this on Flickr which matches the houses in the background..

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3879/15165595735_8b92bd20bc_b.jpg

Thanks.

A couple more here taken on 22 August 1963, I think at the same location. It was a grotty dull day, not ideal weather for an Ilford Sportsman with no light meter! Not a lot here to identify the station which I think is South Wales. The next photos on the film roll are at Cardiff east Dock shed

The first is Large Prairie 5101 class 4174 which was shedded at Pontypool Road.

The second is an unidentified 2800 class.

This was the next one I was going to put up as an unknown location. However. thanks to Google images, I have identified it as Quaker Yard Low Level station. Here we have pannier tank 9668 approaching the station on a freight (trip working C13?). Aberfan tips can be seen in the distance.

Anyone know which station this is? At or between Carmarthen/Whitland and Haverfordwest?

I have no idea wheher this is at Whitland, Carmarthen or Cambuslang!!

 

However, if there are more of this standard and quality (or not) please post a few here.

 

They're Great!

 

Regards

 

Ian

Thanks Ian. I will do a new thread once I have finished scanning in more negatives and entered the data into my electronic catalogue. I have a couple of thousand more negatives to process, most which have never been printed, they have just been in folders for the past 50 years.

Thanks for the info guys..

I catalogued my photos when I got back from my railrover over 50 years ago from my notebook which was not as accurate as I thought. After comparing my photos with images on the internet i think this photo is cataloged incorrectly. I have it down as 7804 Baydon Manor at Whitland shed but I think it is the yard at Carmarthen. Can anyone confirm this?

I took this shot of a Hall passing through a station on a freight while on a railrover in South Wales dated 23/8/1963. Taken from the train and going by the negatives before and after, I was travelling between Whitland and Neyland. Anyone recognise the station? I wonder where the beer was goiing...

88002 now on UK rails, offloaded at a warehousing facility on Brunthill branch, currently being tripped to Kingmoor by 66432 and 66422 with the 88 sandwiched in the middle. 

A friend of mine from Carlisle, David Goodfellow, took this at noon today at Kingmoor.

Still unnamed, BR/English Electric Class 55 Deltic No. D9019 at the platform of Newcastle Central Station, on a down express 1A22 on Sunday 18th April 1965. It was named 'Royal Highland Fusilier' five months later on 9th September 1965. It was later renumbered to 55019 under the TOPS scheme.

I'm fairly sure the shot claimed to be near Galashiels is actually approaching the closed station at Brisco, on the WCML just south of Carlisle.

 

Bill

Definitely in the cutting at Brisco. I have some photos which show the same trees in the background

Obviously, I don't visit this topic very often!

 

Nick, it's quite possible that's where the train information board was. I think the station announcer's office was there in the 1960s, so it would be fairly logical for the board to be close to it. I think there was also some kind of 'control' function there - again logical, since control information would be relevant to train information and announcements.

 

I visited Citadel twice in the same week in summer 1964 and heard interesting 'broadcasts' on both occasions. On the first, at lunchtime on a weekday, we were treated to a description of someone's packed lunch being broadcast over a microphone inadvertently left 'on'.

 

Then, on the Saturday, which was at the end of the Glasgow Fair, Carlisle was dealing with all the returning Fair specials that had to be fitted into the regular service. If possible, these specials would go round the Carlisle goods lines, bypassing Citadel itself. After one station announcement, a microphone was again left 'on'. Passengers then heard one end of a phone conversation with someone in Carlisle questioning the mental abilities of someone at Holbeck shed for providing a driver not passed for the Carlisle goods lines on one of the specials coming over the S&C. Parents' hands were being held over children's ears!

Although now based in the power box at the south end of the station, they still leave the microphone on these days as well!

Here is a van I saw in march 2016 near the rear of Upperby shed in Carlisle.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/54%C2%B053'05.3%22N+2%C2%B055'12.3%22W/@54.8847915,-2.9208451,435m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d54.8848!4d-2.920091?hl=en

Here is a recent image of it.

J336 is The Waverley 1S64

Class 68 No. 68006 'Daring' at Carlisle Station on Tuesday 22 March 2016 in Scotrail blue livery

Ah, the return of overall blue.........

.....and small numbers!

Hi All,

37's were few and far between in the early to mid 1970s around Edinburgh and Fife. Don't have one photo of them at that time around here. However I did save up and take photographic trips to Newcastle when I could. The first five photos are taken from what was the waste ground opposite Gateshead Shed in 1974 or 75. The remainder are at Stratford in the 1980s(?), I was obviously more interested in the new P&O container than the 37 in the last photo... apologies

Hi Pagey,

Your waste ground used to be sidings. Here is a photo of Class A3 60040 Cameronian stored there in April 1964 along with others of the class.

Howie

Here are 3 photos I took en route to Edinburgh from Carlisle in September 1963. Has anyone any idea where on the line they were taken (between Longtown and Hawick). Haulage by by a BRCW Type 2 Class 26/0.