Coppercap

21 minutes ago, nigb55009 said:

Do you think they meant pints of milk?

I don't know, maybe gallons, but Siddy definitely said 22,000 tons per week...

The latest episode has an item about Ongar Station. Apparently...in 1918 Ongar was sending 22,000 tons of milk to Stratford every week. That's 3,142 tons of milk per day! A lot of milk, a lot of cows! Methinks someone's either got the calculations or the units wrong! (Metric tonnes or imperial tons, it doesn't matter that much...).

10 hours ago, 4railsman said:

Me too. Always walked to HW when going to school. But I did also use the 232 and 110 double-deck buses on non-school days. Both started/terminated at Hounslow Bus Garage in Kingsley Road which was an old totally enclosed garage, not the one there today! It was at the end of Hounslow High Street, a long fairly straight road with The Bell pub at the other end. 

Those were the days!

Hounslow is becoming unrecognisable these days, what with the pedestrianisation of the High Street years ago and now the massive new developments on its north side.  

On 25/05/2022 at 08:53, 4railsman said:

My memories on the standard stock go right back to when I traveled to my secondary school from Hounslow West to Hounslow East on the Piccadilly Line for about four years in the late 1950's. Those were the times!!

There can't have been all that many people who used just that stretch of the line for their daily journey. Hounslow East often seemed a chilly, windswept station - westbound there wasn't even a shelter, just a ticket collector's hut IIRC (well, as you know, as it used to be near the end of the line, I expect few apart from you actually boarded there going westbound). It's an impressive station now, with many airport staff using it. Living in Heston, I either walked to Hounslow West, or got the 232 bus, or the 110 to Hounslow East, whichever came first (usually the 110...).   

18 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

The situation with 'Lion' is an oddity in all of this as like you I had the understanding that they announced they were going to make it but as far as i can make out they have not included in the 2022 range in the obvious place (or anywhere else).   Nothing to stop them making it, as 'Lion' apart from duplication but maybe they were pinning their commercial hopes on the two train packs?

 

Lion appears in the (overpriced because it's Hornby) printed catalogue in the "Trains on Film" pages (alongside the TT pack), but Lion was available only in the "Lady with the Lamp" pack, not a separate item. Catalogues are still on the shelf in my local Tesco, and I left them there... 

4 hours ago, I.C.L. 11 said:

I must say the Bachmann paint finish on the recent EFE Rail version looks so much better to my eye than the old Gilbow releases which suffer from quite thick paint  fading the detail as well as being super glossy which doesn't help.

I felt that was one of the issues with EFE die-cast buses (apart from the exaggerated panel joints) - paint far too glossy, and often too thick. It made them look more like Corgi toys, but they ended up at silly prices before they went bust...which didn't come as much of a surprise. The tube stock, while they sold extremely well, were a missed opportunity.

On 06/01/2022 at 14:10, AY Mod said:

They're still here though!

1 hour ago, 30801 said:

 

The link does seem a little bit gone...

https://uk.Hornby.com/products/trains-film-seen-titfield-thunderbolt-train-pack-era-1-r30093

Hornby haven't yet worked our how to pull or edit their YouTube 2022 Range Launch video...yet.

For the very few who have never seen the TT film, it's on this coming Friday, at 2:55pm on BBC2...

2 hours ago, adb968008 said:

What happened to the nameplates after filming ?

interesting font used.

They were probably made using house name letters sourced from a hardware store in Ealing , and like many film props binned after fiming...

7 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

On further inspection .....

 

The car roofs are equipped with bosses for the orange door fault detector lights which were only fitted to some 1938 stock cars at extra-heavy overhaul late in their lives; many never had them.  They were a standard fitting to 1956/59/62 stock.  The bosses are not painted orange but are roof-grey so go largely un-noticed but a purist could rub them down easily enough especially as part of a skilled weathering job.

That was one of the errors pointed out when EFE first produced these. It appeared the main body tool was identical for all the models, but with different cab ends as required. They did have correct, different seat mouldings for the 1938 and 1959/62 stock.

20 minutes ago, 2750Papyrus said:

That sounds realistic and brings back memories of my youth in London.  Personally, however, I think I might quickly become bored or annoyed with it all the time and save it for visitors.

 

When I was young, I don't think I ever heard a tube train blow it's whistle.  Not until about 20 years ago when alighting at High Barnet to take the car back northwards was I able to ask the driver if tube trains were fitted with a whistle or horn, so he gave me a personal demonstration!

The only place I regularly heard Underground trains whistle was at Uxbridge, near the sidings just up from the station. Can't remember if they were entering or leaving the station though, but no doubt there's a 'W' sign there...

26 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

I agree but I was talking about in the tunnels. IIRC tube train speeds in the tunnels are restricted because of the tight fit for two reasons. The 'dynamic envelope', the faster they go the more they rock from side to side with the risk of striking the tunnel sides and the piston effect. As part of the ventilation the trains push the air through the tunnels and this creates a strong wind in the stations when a train approaches. If the speed was any higher there would be a gale force wind capable of blowing waiting passengers over. 

I used to travel to Acton Town for the open days at the LT museum and agree about the speeds. The current stock (72?) shakes and rocks at such speeds as the older stock.

1973 stock on the Piccadilly.

1 hour ago, metadyneman said:

There were a few spots where a '38 would bounce along at 45mph... namely on the Piccadilly line between Hammersmith & Acton Town and at the other end near Arnos grove (The picc had 15 trains of '38 stock up to 1975)

It always amused me along there when bouncing along that stretch, and most noticeable on a fairly full train, how everybody's heads, bodies, legs and arms were very noticeably swaying in complete unison. I sometimes used to wait for a 'red' train for the entertaining ride, and the sounds, bound for Hounslow West...

22 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said:

Ahem. For educational use only.

 

https://ok.ru/video/1960284785304

 

@ 1:20:01

Blimey, watch the whole film and doze off for a few seconds and you'll likely have missed it!

Hornby marketing a train pack on the basis of that tiny appearance is madness.

Hornby could resurrect their old Ivatt 2-6-0 along with coaches badly stickered 'Midland' to do 'The 39 Steps', or perhaps use the A4 in the earlier 1950s version. An even earlier Gresley Pacific was used in the 1930s film...so Gresley coaches there.

Or how about 'Train of Events', from which several ex-LMS engines produced by Hornby could be used. (On the Saturday TPTV, I think).

'The last Journey' has many Great Western locos to choose from (they could even resurrect their awful rendition of a Saint for that!).

46 minutes ago, phil gollin said:

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The Lord of the Isles set ( "Tri-ang Railways Remembered: RS48 The Victorian Train Set" ) is a disappointment as it uses the "old" clerestory coaches rather than the much better newer ones.   I know it is because the old ones were originally used with the Lord of the Isles sets, but it is a shame.

 

The breakdown train is also fun, but could have been better as an updated version.

 

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But that's the whole point,it is replicating the Triang Railways train set - loco, coaches and box. The track is the only exception, as SK said in the Hornby video.

1 hour ago, pheaton said:

you sceptic you...it cant be the oxford one, they had buffers

Ah, but the buffers have already fallen off - if you're lucky they might still be found rolling around within the packaging...

2 hours ago, Hroth said:

 

 

And the 4-4-0 County of Flint.

 

County of Flint was from the last batch built and has the 'Holcroft' curves to the running plate as modelled, so the name is appropriate. Radnor was in an earlier batch and had straight drop ends and short cab sides, so Radnor isn't a suitable name to have been used on the model.

40 minutes ago, Ruffnut Thorston said:

Hornby has made the 4-4-0 County Of Denbigh in the past…

 

We have one.
Modified, it’s the older, better paint finish, loco and tender bodies on the later Railroad DCC Ready Chassis.

 

 

Hornby has also used the name County of Radnor on a 4-4-0, but shouldn't have as it's from the wrong batch of Counties as modelled...

6 hours ago, 57xx said:

 

 I could well be wrong, but didn't he build his channel on Thomas videos and most of his devotees are there for/from that? A different demographic will give different results to his poll.

When you read the comments put on most of his reviews, the majority of them clearly come from people several years younger than himself, and with no relevance to the actual review... 

On 16/12/2021 at 16:39, AyJay said:

Apologies if anyone has mentioned this, life is just too short to read every page of a thread...

 

The Rocket looks a lovely model and it opens up interesting possibilities for a themed layout, Rainhill Trials and the opening of the Liverpool to Manchester Railway both spring to mind.  Although it would possibly be in poor taste to place the unfortunate William Huskisson.

 

But then that leaves the question, would this be a good marketing opportunity to release other period models?  'Locomotion', 'Sans Perail', 'Lion' and 'Iron Duke' all spring to mind.  Is there anyone from Hornby reading this?

 

If you listen carefully, you might hear the groaning of my wallet...

Iron Duke? Now, for a start, that would need a whole new track system to go with it....

1 hour ago, JST said:

 

One particular bit of running trains I enjoy is coupling a loco up to a train without moving the coaches. If a loco can do that, it passes the "crawl" test.

A certain previously mentioned YouTube reviewer commends locos that will crawl, then slams them back into coaches (or wagons), often moving them a scale couple of yards, then has it racing off at an unrealistic rate of acceleration...  

23 hours ago, 57xx said:

 

Is that BR Unlined Grime livery?

Or BR Lined Under Grime livery?

18 minutes ago, modelldoc said:

Ups, sorry RTI, here is a Leyland Matador crane from Airfix:

 

 

modelldoc

Leyland?   AEC!