Coppercap

Having had their mistake of putting their range of Hornby Dublo 2-rail in blue-striped boxes pointed out to them, they are going to make them even more accurate, so they are bringing back Hornby Dublo 3-rail...

If anyone hasn't tried them already, the Hornby Roco-style couplings work a treat. Still negotiate 2nd radius reverse curves without buffers locking, closer-coupled under tension, and coupling slack cut to a bare minimum.

14 minutes ago, barrymx5 said:

Delighted with the SR 6 wheeled Tool Van

Looks like they've manged to derail it already (middle wheels)!

6 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Still done, through the Chunnel.

By "within the UK", I meant journeys wholly within the UK. 

14 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I don't think passengers travelled in their own carriage after the very early years. Taking one's carriage with one, and one's horses, was usual for the nobility for many years.

Taking one's horseless carriage with one (or more usually, the whole family) was not unusual for the better-off lower classes until as recently as 1995...at least within the UK.

5 minutes ago, JohnR said:

One interesting thing is that usually, when something like this gets sold out, and is still really popular and in demand (eg Hornby QE2 loco in purple), examples appear on eBay, often at highly inflated prices.

 

But unless I'm missing something, I cant see any Hattons Genesis coaches on there. 

There was a rake of six lit coaches on there last week - sold for £328. I bet the buyer is kicking themself now...

7 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

If I want to do a branchline I really need a set, now will someone do a Metro Tank please.

Me too! I particularly want a Large Metro - my great grandfather used to drive them on suburban trains out of Paddington, while shedded at Southall.

19 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

I wonder if the original consignment somehow became divided and the remainder have just turned up?

 

John

Well you'd like to think Hattons knew how many they had ordered to be made, and then closed the pre-order books for each model as it became 'sold out', rather than just continue taking orders they knew they could not fulfil. But there does appear to have been a bit of a c**k up numbers-wise somewhere along the line.

13 minutes ago, kevfisher said:

I agree - but instead of the pack I went for a more varied set of 5 - yes cost more but pleased to be able the enjoy these gems after the scare of the order cancel.

I re-ordered the pack as I originally wanted the tri-composite and both the 4-wheel and 6-wheel brake 3rds. I already have a good selection of the rest, but as I wanted these three, I felt another 4-wheel 3rd won't hurt...

14 minutes ago, kevfisher said:

.. For me - one of the most unusual thing about this is that my original order included one of the GWR Boxed sets - which they 'Now' seem to have plenty of 🤨

Same here - once I got the original email advising the pack was going to be removed from my order, I quickly ordered individual coaches, from what was still available at the time, to try to make up the shortfall, though not all were available, only two types. Now I've re-ordered the pack, I'll have two more than I originally ordered. Not unhappy though, as they are really so very nice...

2 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Glad to hear it. 

I wonder whether these are really a large number of cancellations - or has there been a hasty rerun by the factory?

I find it hard to believe that they have had enough cancellations on these (and not say on the LMS ones, still sold out on pre-order) from individuals perhaps they've found an admin error somewhere?

Yes, there does seem to be a very large number available (it was 10+ for all types, I think, when I first looked, but some numbers have now dropped below 10 or are now OOS).

Like you, I can't believe they've had this many cancellations. Maybe some pre-ordered and have had a card number change, not updated their account, and then not responded to Hattons, or some pre-orderers are now modelling in another world so obviously didn't respond...but I doubt there's all that many.

4 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Great news for those who missed out, but I hope those who had their pre-orders arbitrarily cancelled were given first refusal .... and at the same price ?

Maybe not first refusal, but Hattons are indeed selling at the original price to those who had any cancellations. 

For those who had their pre-orders (or part thereof) for GWR coaches cancelled by Hattons (or waited until they were released but then missed the boat), due to customer(?) cancellations a number have now become available - well, it looks to me like ALL versions are available, including the 4-coach packs. Prices for those that had pre-orders cancelled will be honoured. I've just re-ordered a 4-coach pack...  

2 hours ago, longchap said:

Yes, Hattons will receive the spares with the last issue of coaches early next year and I received helpful instructions for reassembling the end steps. I've requested some spare steps and will refit the errant pair using patience, glue and the big stand magnifier, hopefully avoiding the dread of pinging small parts across the room to that big black hole!

 

Obviously the spares availability is subject to assembly of the remaining stock, but I hope you can achieve a satisfactory conclusion.

Do you know who dealt with your issue? I might get a better response from them. All it is is one wheel not having the Mansell insert - looks odd.

On 26/09/2022 at 14:53, longchap said:

Hmm, just as wet here Neal, as I ask Hattons for spare Genesis coach end steps and continue running in a long line of locomotives. Just finished the Hornby Prairie and about to do the Dapol next.

 

Stay warm and dry.

Have you had a satisfactory response yet from Hattons? I have a small issue with one coach (of eleven) - a small part missing when assembled - and was merely offered a refund or replacement (but replace with what, as they are sold out...?). They apparently don't appear to have any gash ones to cannibalise either.

51 minutes ago, Bucoops said:

@robertcwp has much better quality pictures showing the generator car and ex-LNWR sleeper.

 

 

 

 

 

You can se how it's a 6 compartment third with boarded over windows and an extra door spliced in.

The six ventilators aren't equally spaced, so to me it doesn't look like it was a six-compartment. Maybe a guards compartment to one side of the middle?

9 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

It appears the latest round of order customer cancellation emails now advise:

 

"There was a miscalculation and miscommunication in regard to the number of pre-orders that we have placed with the factory and I am afraid that we are having to reduce the quantity of this coach, on your order..." 

 

ego dixi

Which livery(s), and which coach type was that? 

These really are absolutely fantastic, and a bargain, IMO!

I'd only seen the Hornby ones on here, YouTube and in their oversize boxes in the shops, and wasn't overly impressed with them. Hattons did such a good job of keeping us updated with their own videos and releasing pre-production samples for review, plus having double footboards fitted as standard, I went ahead and pre-ordered several GWR 6-wheelers and a similar number of 4-wheelers.

One nice touch is the addition of extra footboards, so that you can convert from the fitted double footboards to a single footboard, as many of this sort of coach would have had in later life. Unfortunately there is no mention of this on the instruction leaflet! On said leaflet there are instructions on how to remove the centre sliding wheelset and axleboxes on the 6-wheelers, thus creating a long-wheelbase 4-wheeler. However, as the lower footboards have a gap in the centre (to allow clearance for these axleboxes on curves), the lower footboard would then look a bit odd, so they would look better if replaced with just the single footboard (But mine are staying as 6-wheelers with their double footboards!).

Just had an email from Hattons - they were taking pre-orders at £152.15, but due to a 'misunderstanding' they cannot provide them at that price now, and have increased the price to £169.15...

A couple of days ago there was still a large number of the GWR coaches available to pre-order, with the rest listed as sold out. Now, all of a sudden, all of the GWR coaches have been dropped from the listings (though they can be found by other methods of searching), so it looks to me like they may have now arrived in stock.  

I have now had part of my pre-order cancelled. Note: it went in the Spam box.

I've been getting it. I have though, viewed Hattons website in the last couple of days since reading of the Genesis coaches orders cancellations. (Fortunately not had an email yet...).

3 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

 So many years ago that the 81 was a half-hourly (and at times just hourly) single-deck route run by MBs from Hounslow (AV) garage.  The daily service is now every 10 - 15 minutes and it's been a double-deck route for a very long time just as it was when first introduced. 

I don't think MBs ever normally worked the 81 (we certainly had them when new on the 110 for a short while, before having MBSs on both the 110 and 111). After the RMs, the 81 had SMs then SMSs for several years before LSs took over for a longer period.

2 hours ago, H2O said:

That figure made me sit up too, wondering how many milk churns 22,000 tons of milk would be.  Perhaps an update to the voice over may be needed.  I'm 99% sure I've heard the odd word re-voiced on other railway programs.  When there are so many facts a figures to get right I'm not surprised if the odd error slips through.

I had to replay it a couple of times as I thought I'd misheard it the first time! I too was trying to imagine 22,000-tons worth of milk churns...

After looking up the capacity of churns, I think I've worked it out somewhere near right, and it works out at approx 290,000 (41.5 thousand per day) of the old-type 17 gallon conical churns, or approx 492,000 (70.3 thousand per day) of the later straight 10 gallon churns. Cue a voice-over re-edit...    

21 minutes ago, nigb55009 said:

A six wheel tank held about 3000 gallons, IIRC. So that would be seven or eight tanks daily, which sounds more likely. 

What I was thinking. 22,000 divided by 7 = 3142. So yes, something about that figure, I guess it should have been gallons, not tons.