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Because the former exists and the latter doesn't, which makes the name, number, and number of pins somewhat academic. Depends how badly you really want a King I suppose.

The station building is the same basic "small" design as the Lyddle End one, with an extension at the south end. Home Farm is clearly different to the S&C SM's house but if you repaint to match then they would all look part of a whole. Dent is stone but is a brownish/greyish sandstone, not quite sure what the Hornby one is trying to portray ! Even the stations further south in the limestone dales aren't that grey !

But unless someone has posted a link to this topic from the N-Gauge Society forum, for a crowd-funded model it probably does. As far as I'm aware DJM doesn't advertise anywhere except here and his own site, and anyone reading Hattons' and Kernow's ads and the odd bit of supplier news in the mags could be forgiven that he was OO only. Impluse buys from people seeing a model sitting on a shelf or in a dealer's ad are not an option for crowd-funded models, you have to know about it up front. Agreed though that the "no" option is a bit pointless without being qualified. "No because I model the LNER in OO" has no relevance whereas, as you say, 80% of N-gauge modellers voting "No" would be more useful.

I notice this hasn't been answered yet. I.e. by someone who actually knows the answer as opposed to someone speculating wildly and with no more clue than the rest of us.

If that's the intention then I missed the point, apologies. Presumably each 'family' of coaches has its own chassis sprue - it would be relatively straightforward to make a generic Stanier chassis for example with different trussing for the 57' and 60' versions as the battery boxes dynamo, bogies and brake gear etc are common, but more difficult to then include all the various different bits for other companies' 57' and 60' designs. A bit like Parkside where so far I've managed to make 4 free BR Standard vans out of all the spare bits ...

If your target 'average / newbie modeller' is satisfied with one size suites all/none chassis, ends and roof then they'll be satisfied with the older generic Railroad RTR coaches and won't buy your kit. And those who aren't satisfied with generic chassis, ends and roof won't buy them either.

Considerably more than the two chains the majority of purchasers will expect it to run on.

I didn't say censorship and I don't believe I mentioned any particular manufacturer. But seeing as you did, the vitriol which spews from some of the rank and file on here whenever DJM is criticised, or even when somebody dares to ask where a promised update or feedback has got to (never mind actual model), is quite staggering. It is matched only by the speed with which the same members fall over themselves to assure everybody that whatever the currently available model is like, the promised proposed/delayed DJM one will be so much better when it appears. I've had to stop reading the DJM 71 thread, it was giving me diabetes.

I was going to suggest that the only hidden agenda on RMWeb was thou shalt only use fulsome praise to describe anything associated with one particular very small manufacturer, but that one isn't exactly hidden.

I think you might be missing the point John. The 'niche' modellers to whom you refer just get on with it and make the ashpan or whatever. Niche armchair critics who don't make anything are another matter entirely, and most of the ones I see are on high traffic sites.

Same solution as Vitalspark here, 1mm hole in the lamp with a smidgin of blutac in it, sitting on the lamp iron and changed as required. Flimsy plastic or etched lamp irons are usually replaced with cut-off staples for strength. Same on brake vans, side lamps are permanently fixed (because they could be at either end, at least in theory,)but the tail lamps swap ends as required with a couple of sidelamp-less vans for fully fitted freights.

I do remember, as you probably guessed from my phrasing. What he said. If the subject is off limits then just say so instead of waving your prefect badge at us and making puerile threats.

Why ? He's hardly likely to get blood on his own hands. And who are you to be warning anyone ? 27 please, or a non-self-combusting 17, I don't mind which.

I agree, and I'm lucky enough to have worked in the industry when the UK did this very well despite being the butt of everybody's sandwich jokes. And I suspect there's just enough corporate memory left at senior level for it to work again if the people who know how to make it work are allowed to get on with it. But they won't be, the DfT are in charge and that scares me.

I was going to say "have they finished the last one yet ? Ye gods. Short franchises specced and funded by the DfT, without a civil engineer between them, trying to do long term investment. What could possibly go wrong ? But this is opening up the pie to even more fingers, some of whom won't see why they need to wash their hands first. Cluster***k is the word that springs to mind. Unless you trust the DfT to do it properly - I suppose there's a first time for everything.

There are a few different variants they could have done - welded, vac braked etc rather than the exact same version. For some of their vans and opens there are several variants, some more common, and they still did the same one as Parkside.

Many collieries had brickworks attached, as many coal seams have bands of high quality clay interbedded with them due to the way coal deposits are formed. They were therefore available on site, effectively at cost. Similar to the way many railway companies used clinker for ballast and surfacing paths and platforms.

Nobody is being rude (except possibly you) or snotty. It's a fact that Peco dominates the UK market with a product which is wrong, and arguably more wrong than it needs to be. There are alternatives available so either their buyers don't know it's wrong, or know and accept it anyway (including me) because it's convenient and reliable.

The ones in yours, Kelly's and Paul's posts.

I think you may have answered your own question there Martin. Those who can see the difference already knew there was a difference and ignored it for convenience (like me, C&L wasn't around when my current layout was built) and for the other 90% track is track is track. Some of it has grey sleepers and some has brown, and none of it matches the black stuff in the Hornby box.

I asked a question and made an observation. I have my answers (or at least theories), thank you.

Thank you, I'm aware how market pricing works and how much it costs to tool up a new model, I don't need a load of condescending replies from fanboys. I was merely curious given that the Warwell is twice the size and a fiver cheaper.

I agree Stewart, it's not something I've ever done for exactly the same reasons. My point was that neither asking a shop to obtain a stock item nor 'expressing an interest' in a forthcoming release constitutes an agreement to buy and it naïve of a retailer to assume otherwise.

I didn't buy one of those either. Thanks.