Rshakes3

1 hour ago, andyman7 said:

Here's a tribute posted by TMC, which of course started life as the Trafford Model Centre even though they're now based on the other side of the country.

https://mailchi.mp/tmc-direct.com/hattons?fbclid=IwAR3dRnzvTLJQP-UzfAyGxgJkmra7xcxHZJ2AkORUN0pVQCtLiAUzoiS_o3E

What a lovely message from the TMC team, I`ve been using Hatton's for over 15 years, spend A$1000's with them over that time and always found them very easy to deal with - I even was able to visit the store in 2017. So I`m very sad to hear this news. So thank you to the Hatton's team for your service to me, it been a pleasure especially given the distance between Australia & the UK. 

I`m not sure if this is the correct 'discussion' to raise this question but lets see. I have 25 Hornby Pullman cars, both 8 & 12 wheelers along with the Bournemouth Belle Observation car. On 3 of these which I purchased 2nd hand I`ve noticed that some of the hand rails are damaged or missing. So is it possible to obtain replacement hand rails from any where?  However I must admit that these models are some of the best that Hornby have produce in my mind  - especially the 12 wheels. 

Well I`ve just pre ordered #3000 this morning. I have a LMS BG from the 2nd batch and it can be a right 'pain in the bum' somedays - the pickups seem to have a mind of their own somedays. However it is running well at this time and it is impressive when it does. So I hope the Heljan team have taken on board the issues/lessons from the earlier Garrets and that this U1 is a high quality product and a smooth runner from day 1 - looking forward to it with fingers crossed 🙂  

I was going to add this some time ago but I`m really impressed with the working front lamps on this loco - they really do add to it. Now I also bought 3 of the new P2s and the new tender coupling is to me a good step forward as well.

Now I just wish that the working lamps from 6202 were built into 2002, 2005 & 2007 along with the new tender coupling back the other way.  

So maybe in the future new releases will have both 'features'? 

12 hours ago, SteveM666 said:

Yes, it’s printed on ToF - as I said loco specific. At least the print is the same size as the Fox etched plate.

Thanks all, yes, I did used the extra name plates for my Lord President and looking at PoW pictures on the Hornby siter 'he/she' also appears to be only have 'printed' name plates.  

On 09/08/2023 at 07:57, Steam here! said:

Well I was surprised, the nameplates in the accessory pack are etched by the looks of things.

 

only scraped some of the back just to see for myself, this I’ll repaint black again at a later date to stop the brass being shown from behind.

I received my Earl Marischal yesterday and I`m very happy with the loco. All the bits were in the accessory pack. Now looking at the name plates I`m not inclined to apply the 'brass' ones as the ones on the loco look fine - they appear to be separate plates rather then just 'painted' on. Any thoughts? 

11 hours ago, Rshakes3 said:

Hi - yes - I`ll have a look again today

 

So had a closer looked today and yes it appears ok. Also too, running on the layout there is really not a lot of movement.

14 hours ago, E100 said:

 

Is the axle / wheel painting definitely centre?

Hi - yes - I`ll have a look again today

8 minutes ago, Rshakes3 said:

Hello all, so I`ve run my example on the rolling road and there was really not much movement at all on the 3rd driving axle. I also put it in my cradle upside down and ran it and again not a lot to report - I did take a short video but it saved as an MP4 file so I can`t upload it - yet. 

Also I ran my loco light around both the 2nd & 3rd radius curves and on both left hand circuits there were no issues at all  but again a little hesitation on the right hand 3rd radius and a bit 'more' on the right hand 2rd radius curves. Over time I think it will ease and I`m not overly concerned. So hope that is useful🙂 

Ok - lets see if this works

Just now, Rshakes3 said:

Hello all, so I`ve run my example on the rolling road and there was really not much movement at all on the 3rd driving axle. I also put it in my cradle upside down and ran it and again not a lot to report - I did take a short video but it saved as an MP4 file so I can`t upload it - yet. 

Also I ran my loco light around both the 2nd & 3rd radius curves and on both left hand circuits there were no issues at all  but again a little hesitation on the right hand 3rd radius and a bit 'more' on the right hand 2rd radius curves. Over time I think it will ease and I`m not overly concerned. So hope that is useful🙂 

Also too, I`ve applied the extra name plates and have no issues with them.

18 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

Thanks. I will run mine on my layout today or tomorrow.

 

Something I also noticed is the nameplates in the bag are smaller than those printed onto the loco. Can see the edge at both ends.

Hello all, so I`ve run my example on the rolling road and there was really not much movement at all on the 3rd driving axle. I also put it in my cradle upside down and ran it and again not a lot to report - I did take a short video but it saved as an MP4 file so I can`t upload it - yet. 

Also I ran my loco light around both the 2nd & 3rd radius curves and on both left hand circuits there were no issues at all  but again a little hesitation on the right hand 3rd radius and a bit 'more' on the right hand 2rd radius curves. Over time I think it will ease and I`m not overly concerned. So hope that is useful🙂 

15 hours ago, TomScrut said:

Has anyone noticed some slack in the third driving axle? I am running mine in on the rolling road and that axle is wobbling a fair bit, it's like there's slack on the bearings. All other axles are OK. The third axle is the one that is driven by the motor so I think it might be to give the mechanism some compliance.

Hi TomScrut, I`ve not noticed that on my example but I`ll go and put in on the rolling road and check it. However what I have noticed is that it does 'hesitate' on 3rd radius curves. My layout is long but narrow, 21 foot long with 2 continues loops using 2nd & 3rd radius curves at either end. My example will hesitate about 3/4 of the way around on the outside - 3rd radius - curve. It doesn`t stop but there is enough hesitation to notice. Now I have run the loco in and applied a very small amount of oil to the recommended point on the loco. So this is with 6 Hornby Gresley's behind the tender. I have also ran it 'light engine' on the inside 2rd radius loop curves and I do not recall a problem but that was in a left hand turn, the 3rd radius is a right hand turn. So over the next few days I`ll check that 3rd axle and run the engine 'light' around both the 2nd & 3rd radius curves in both directions and see what the story is.

Has anyone else experienced this?     

14 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:

 

It's not just the mechanicals. Exhaust clearance was a significant problem with the original external form. The use of the Bugatti shrouding when the A4 was introduced, suggested the way forward in fixing this problem on the P2.

 

Now, admittedly aerodynamic knowledge is much advanced over that of the 1930's so something approximating the original external form may  now be made to perform better. But it's money being spent toward solving a problem long ago eliminated would be my feeling. And it won't be anywhere near as attractive...

 

On the mechanical side, hopefully advances in technique will succeed in overcoming this machine's major problems in riding on curves, and dealing with the piston thrusts with 33% more adhesion inflicting greater loads on the big ends. Where the equivalent pacific would begin to relieve load by slipping, the mikado won't. (Chapelon had much to say on this matter, that the weight restrictions of European railways set a limit on higher power output steam locos; because key aspects of the construction could not be made stronger.)

Hi team, I`ve been reading Andrew Hardy's P2 book over the last few weeks and the team behind PoW have done a significant amount of work redesigning/improving the P2. Things like re designing the Pony truck, updating axles to meet BR BAS 504 principles & roller bearings all round. They have also computer modeled their CAD design with VAMPIRE s/w to ensure that issues with possible derailments have been address. They also expect to have over 70% of parts interchangeability with Tornado, things like the boiler, roller bearings, injectors,  Cartizzi assembly, braking system, electrics & even the tenders - note that they plan to have 3 identical boilers at the end of the day. So all in all 2007 should be a far better P2  - looking forward to seeing it on the mail line in the next few years.

So I`m very happy to have the original 2002 without the additional deflectors  - I also have 2002, 2003 &2007  on pre order - looking forward to all of them!

Thanks Hilux5972 - 🙂

Hello all, I`ve picked up a Hornby R3999 Class 8P 'Princess Royal' 4-6-2 6205 "Princess Victoria" in LMS crimson lake for a very good price from Hattons last week but I  have no idea of what these 2 'copper' fittings are for - does any one have an idea? I`ve already attached the cylinder drain pipes so I`m at a bit of a loss.

Yes, I have a rake of the Coronation Scot coaches and have fitted lighting to a number of Gresley Teak coaches as well so I certainly hope so. The lighting really does add to these rakes.  

Thanks for that 😀

Just a follow up question - are these to be fitted with lighting? I can`t recall but please let me know.

Ha - nop - they have the same lead time as the new P2s - 'when they get here'.

I`m very sorry to hear this news, I did enjoy his work - the world is a poorer place - rest in peace Rob.

So given the current issues in China with Covid do we know which factory these are being made in? Also I noted that the Earl Marischal model only had single smoke deflectors in the latest example - I`m hope that is what will be delivered  - some time in the future 😀 

5 hours ago, robmcg said:

 

My photos show that it was perfectly packed with cushioning on all sides inside a larger box, it was unmarked.  No fault there at all.

 

Must have been (unluckily?) transported upright and downward-facing with weight/vibration/impact  as in normal transhipment from truck to pallet to aircraft etc.

 

 

 

 

 

At least the steps are all there.

Hi Rob - really sorry that you had some damage on this one - the Smoke deflectors on both my A2/3s were to. But I think your repair is pretty good & I`d suggest that with a bit of weathering you should be able to make it disappear - maybe using powders?. And yes - its a long way to send it back to the UK.

Hi all, thank you so much Jenny for confirming that with care the 'drive unit' can be removed if and when required. I`ve had these for a few months now and I`m still very happy with them - very good models 

2 minutes ago, Rshakes3 said:

Hi RobMcg - good to see you back here! Now I`ve just taken Delivery of my model direct  from Hornby and I`m happy to report all was well, The Driver's side steps were lose but easily replaced. So very happy with mine - no damage. Fingers crossed for yours  

And just confirming - I`m in Wollongong  - south of Sydney - so a long way from for the W1 to come.