Clearwater

I seem to remember the GWR had some artics. I can't really remember if they were all rebuilt? Artics seem to have been a 1930s thing and then came along the APT!

Phil

Yes though I don't think they lasted very long sadly. But ultimately I'm not going to let facts stand in the way of what I want to build. Worsley do an etch of them. I'm planning to have a crack when I've built up enough confidence.

 

David

Those are fantastic and a real inspiration. For some reason, I have a real liking for articulated coaches. I guess it's because they weren't really seen on the network in the 80s... Similarly i like slip coaches!

 

David

Oh dear. At the last count I have 11 auto trailers.

Do I need help ?

Wow! Impressive. I did say *most*... I suspect with 11(!) you're in a small

minority. Folks own fewer A4s!

The soap powder used was LUX,a real blast from the past.

 

                Just a bit more useless information

 

 

                                                Ray.

Andy Y's probably noting it down for next Christmas' quiz....

 

Great modelling - there's something about those stylish LNER trains with their coherent rakes.

 

David

I think you can make a good guess on product popularity by the number of pages in a thread and how quickly it grows. From a quick check, this is by far the longest Hornby carriage thread which augurs well for them.

 

Given that most people will only buy one or two autocoaches or inspection saloons or whatever, you'd expect those to be relatively more expensive given the need to recover similar costs over a smaller potential sales base.

 

David

Gostude has 4067 positive feedback a in last 12 months and 6 negatives.

That's not bad imho.

So what exactly is wrong with his selling?

Just interested to hear why, that's all.

Unless I'm mistaken, feedback is self selecting - ie you have to have brought from someone to give them a rating. Therefore, if you've won an auction, you'll be ok with the price and so long as the item arrives well packaged, on time and per description, you're more likely than not to give a good rating.

 

Equally the rating doesn't capture feedback on what has not sold (no sale therefore no rating to apply) nor from those who thought the item overpriced.

 

David

I think the caterpillar is a metaphor for the thread. From all this chaos, there is a cocoon building in the loft from which we hope a beautiful layout will emerge!

Phil

 

 

On another topic, mentioned earlier, surely someone putting a full Right Track DVD on this thread is contravening copyright. Yes, the business has been closed down but the pay-for DVDs can still be obtained. I think it's dreadful that professionals can spend days (yes days, even weeks) making a high-quality product only to see it 'stolen' (is that a good description?) and given away. Does anyone make money by doing this?

 

Sadly the answer is yes. Some people make money on YouTube, famously there was the man chasing the dog in Richmond park. My understanding is that The business model works that you post a video and anyone who views it often has to watch an advert before. Advertiser pays YouTube and a portion of that goes to the video poster on the basis of the number of views

 

David

Thanks - this one didn't have the steps for the slots. I was disappointed by that! Had a white metal end to attach to the brass end piece. I used one of those wooden block things for that part - was pretty useful.

 

Yes, am looking forward to getting it nice and shiny!

 

David

The last time I was involved in buying 12":1ft scale wooden fishplates was in 1986 and a pair of wooden fishplates without a lift in them (you need a lift to join different rail sections/sizes) was around £120 without the metalwork such as bolts and strengthening plates.

I'm led to believe the current Notwork Rail estimate for a pair of new wooden fishplates is approximately 100x that. The increase is accounted for by application of management overheard, recovery of lost track access income, surcharge for out of hours use of network, project office costs and charge for remedial works uncovered. Excludes contingency. Inclusive of reduction in underlying commodity price falls and VAT

 

Dr Ker. Ching

Totally agree with all of this. The frustrating thing with Hornby is that they have the means and the ability to release a plethora of locos with aforementioned detail differences, but not the inclination! We're yet to see a Star with Castle steam pipes released in any livery, and there are many Castle variations to be done. For example, the special edition Caerphilly Castle is the only Hornby release from the initial 4073 - 4092 batch with the smaller scalloped front end, and I reckon a GWR liveried Pendennis or Windsor Castle with 4000 gallon Collett tender would sell like hot cakes. I think BR modellers have also been crying out for a long while for a single chimney, late crest castle with Collett - not Hawksworth - tender. 

 

Would love some insight into the 'livery and config' decision making progress at Margate! Still, it does leave the modelling option open to us, which I guess is what this game is all about.

 

CoY

 

Agreed.

 

With Hornby's record of occasionally grasping the wrong end of the stick, what are the odds of them taking 7013's spec and using that for a prewar 4082?

Yes it is rather tedious isn't it. However, whatever suits I suppose.

There are, of course, a lot of Webbers who do (and would) think that threads like this are carp. What they miss out on is the actual and wonderful amount of help and support this sort of rambling banter provides to some of us, along with large amounts of modelling advice and inspiration.

Long may we continue.

Ducky.

My thread would be about 30 pages without it Phil.

Yes it is rather tedious isn't it. However, whatever suits I suppose.There are, of course, a lot of Webbers who do (and would) think that threads like this are carp. What they miss out on is the actual and wonderful amount of help and support this sort of rambling banter provides to some of us, along with large amounts of modelling advice and inspiration.Long may we continue.Ducky.

Absolutely - without the randomness coupled to various outbreaks of modelling (I recall some coach soldering about 20 pages back- I may of course be mistaken), I doubt that as a relative newbie I'd have stuck with the forum long enough to gain confidence to reach out (apologies for the business Americanisms) for help. Following yours and Rob's suggestions, my part built coach will now roll around my simple layout. Thanks also to Tony Wright who helped manipulate the body square at the St. Albans show. Photo evidence below, video wouldn't load! I'm well chuffed, pun unintentional, that it works! I'm quite convinced that it's not the best brass coach build there's ever been but you've got to start somewhere..

 

David

 

I was going to start a campaign for a second Hall on ANTB but, having "researched" Devon allocated locomotives as at 31/12/47, it appears other tender classes may have to take precedence:

 

Castles 28, Kings 17, 4-4-0s Bulldog/Birds etc 14, WD 2-8-0s 12, Halls 10, Moguls 10, 28XX 10, Counties 6, Stars 4, Granges 4, 47XX 2, and 2251 Class 1.[/quote

 

You'd think the Bulldogs would be a logical thing for Bachmann to produce offering th me chance for them to recycle some of their development work/cads etc from the dukedog

 

David

Despite it being unavailable it is highly unlikely to be out of copyright (I am not a lawyer either, but if it was mine, I'd want it taken down).

Ironically I brought a copy of those DVDs on Wednesday from antics online. They've arrived in sealed cellophane so assume is as new

 

David

Watched the opening 90 seconds ... before realising that the full thing runs for 4 hours 56 minutes. Yikes! I do actually need to stay awake during the course of today...

 

It is of course excellent stuff; one to watch in several sittings methinks.......

And with a good wi fi connection!

Surely 34020 Seaton should have the honour?

Given the the new peco track thread only started yesterday am, at the rate it's growing it will overtake this thread within a few weeks....

 

But the point was, they were complete (other than the proverbial paint and glue) and buildable from the word go.  

 .

These days a lot of airfix kits come with paint, brushes and glue in the box already... Personally, I see the sense in that. No use you giving kit to your nephew or niece and then them not being able to do anything with it.

 

David

Bbc has a video here

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35400377

 

Note they lead on scaletrix

 

David

Didn't the actual tv series film the railway shots at that classically restored LNER station on the bluebell railway using a (extremely) early version of a standard 4MT to pull the train?

 

I knew that couldn't be Hornby as it had been delivered early!

Was their a naming committee who decided how names were allocated?

Just been looking at the various dates myself and agree that at 40/41 there wasn't much else around for the Western to name locos after. Surprised they didn't do further renaming later in the war though to wave the home flag for our best heavy bomber, best fighter bomber and best tank buster. By that time there can't have been many Fairly Battles flying in combat (if any) and their name on a loco was surely an embarrassing reminder of an outclassed aeroplane.

It is I agree a disgrace that, until very recently, the bomber crews that nightly risked their lives were largely ignored. There's no denying that the results of the area bombing on places like Hamburg were appalling but ignoring those ordered into harms way is poor.

Given the bomber war was largely operated out of east anglia, the GW management may have considered it "out of area." I think, by way of comparison, that few of the castles, halls etc were named out of area. Re Fairey Battles and Blenheims, there were some suicidally brave crews in the Battle of France, eg Garland / Gray's bombing of a bridge in Belgium. Quite right to honour and remember.

 

(Apols for the off topic nature!)

Just looked up the names chosen by the GWR and find it strange that they picked some fairly poor designs and missed out on the Mosquito, Lancaster and Typhoon.

The renamings were all done immediately post the Battle of Britain between November 1940 and January 1941. As such, those other late war successful types were not in frontline service and had barely flown never mind permeating public consciousness( I think the Lancaster first flew in Jan '41). What's more surprising is that no locos were renamed post war. However, even then, Bomber a Command never achieved the public appeal Fighter Command had in 1940. For example Dowding got a peerage whereas Harris never did

 

David.

I'm feeling the need to invest in another castle to re number as 5071 to complement my 34066!

Why do need a couple of Spam's to defend us from the Luftwaffe?

 

The dozen Great Western Castle's re-named after the RAF's finest aircraft are all we need.

I always think there's a certain irony that one of the least well equipped types to defend us has ended up as the preserved one. Great name, useful first time they met the Luftwaffe but pretty much a death trap for the crews after that

 

David