Andy 17

@Nigelcliffe thanks for all the information, I’ll try the motor alignment first as that’s the easiest for me to do. Best Wishes Andy

I've already checked the power feeds, they are correct. I'll try a new wire for the frog polarity next. Best Wishes Andy

Hi Ian, I asked the same question about the 009 points to the Peco Technical people, this is their reply; Thank you for your email. We can confirm that no wires or rails should be cut on these turnouts, and only the insulated rail joiners are required on the frog rails. Kind regards A Beard PECO Technical Advice Bureau For that reason, I have not cut them, I can only just about see them! Best Wishes Andy

Hi everyone, I really need some help to cure a problem with a short. It's all to do with a passing loop on my DCC 009 layout that I'm building. I am using Peco electrofrog points. I have a passing loop as per the drawing. When I set the points for a loco to go straight on, I get a short. If I change the right hand point towards the loop, the short goes away. Changing the left hand point makes no difference to the short. The red and black dots are track feeds, there are two IRJs on each point where indicated. The two small circles indicate where the wire from the SEEP PM1 point motor attaches to the frog. The point motors have a polarity switch and I'm using on/off/on momentary switches and a Gaugemaster CDU to change the points. I tested both of the points and they changed with no problem. The point motors are wired up as per the diagram and connected to the track at the toe end of each point but the blue, white and yellow wires are not yet connected to the switches or the CDU. Any help would be appreciated as I can't figure out what's going on, and I will have an identical passing loop on the other side of the layout and can anticipate problems with that one too. Best Wishes Andy

I've tested the track and it didn't all go according to plan. First of all there was a short somewhere which strangely disappeared when I disconnected the dropper wires from the points (not the frog end) to the bus wire. I don't know yet if the problem was with all of them or just one. I hadn't connected any of the wires to the on/off/on momentary switches, would this be the reason for the short? I also got a derailment in a couple of places so I will be relaying some of the track as soon as some more arrives. Best Wishes Andy (feeling slightly miffed)

@metijgThanks, I just hope it all works when the time comes. Best Wishes Andy

I've laid all the track and wired the electrofrog points and Seep point motors. I'm about to start connecting the droppers to the bus wires. Pretty pleased with it so far.

@Brian @RobinofLoxley @John ks Thank you all for all your help, it is very much appreciated. I can approach the wiring with a lot more confidence now. Just to confirm, I am using the non locking sprung to centre off type of switches. Each switch will only control one point motor. Best Wishes Andy

@Pete the Elaner and @RobinofLoxley I think I may have confused us all by not asking the question correctly, for which I apologise. I'll have another go! The bit I'm unsure of is how to connect the CDU positive to each of the switches. On the wiring diagram there looks to be a wire going to the centre of each switch and then one wire going away from it to the next one. What I meant by saying "dropper wires" was; can I have one wire going from the CDU and wires going from that wire to each switch - much in the way "dropper wires" go from a bus wire. Or could I use one of these terminal blocks and connect the CDU to the first terminal on the bottom left and then connect each switch to terminals 2 to 9 along the bottom? The red bar at the top connects all 12 terminals together. I have used them for my bus wires and my dropper wires. The switches I'm using are the momentary on - off - momentary on with sprung centralisation type. I hope that is a better explanation of what I'm trying to work out. Best Wishes Andy

I'm just starting the electrics on my layout. I have 8 Peco electrofrog points which are controlled by Seep PM1 point motors. I'm also using a Gaugemaster CDU unit. I've been testing each one of the points as I install them and they all work fine. On/Off/On switches are being used to change the points. I understand how to connect them individually but I'm a bit confused as to how to connect them all together to the CDU using the (Red) wire that goes from the positive of the CDU unit to the centre of the switch. Can I run the wire from the CDU unit and use "dropper wires" to the other switches? (in a similar way that the (Black) negative wire runs from the CDU to the "C" connection of the point motors). This is a diagram I've found on the internet. Best Wishes Andy

These are the ones I've ordered, apparently they are on their way from Greece. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-SHEETS-stone-wall-20x28cm-OO-Embossed-BUMPY-LANDSCAPE-PAPER-b7y6/392766467552?hash=item5b72b4ade0:g:WwQAAOSwdIFXy9YF Best Wishes Andy

I have almost finished laying the track, I'll post some pictures when it's all finalised. I've used the Peco Small Radius 009 Electrofrog Points SL-E491 and SL-E492. Best Wishes Andy

@Ben AlderDid you glue the embossed stone sheet on to plastic, if so was it with UHU glue?

Hi Ben, Thanks for the information and photo. I've ordered some of the stone wall sheets to use as retaining walls on my layout. Best Wishes Andy

Hi Ian, Thanks for your reply, I'll get some ordered from him. Best Wishes Andy

Hi Ian, Can you tell me how flexible these sheets are, please? I need to build some stone supporting walls on my 009 layout. They all need to be curved between 9 and 12 inch radius. Would these be any use to me? Best Wishes Andy

Thanks Ray, it will just be a passing loop. No other points in it.

I wish to have a passing loop at my small station and also another one in the fiddle yard. I'm using electrofrog points and I know that I have to use 2 IRJs at the frog end of the points. Do I need to put any more IRJs anywhere else in the passing loops?

I intend to do just that, I’m currently struggling to work out how to wire up Peco electrofrog points.

This is my first venture into 009 and the first layout I've had for about 40 years. The baseboard measures 5 feet by 2 feet 3 inches and has been covered with 2mm cork. I bought a Kato V5 oval of track from Ebay to test and have a play with my Bachmann Baldwin but I'll be using Peco flexible track and electrofrog points. It will be a DCC layout. I expect this all to be a huge learning curve as most of this is new to me. Made a start on the wiring today, the bus wires are in and have been connected to the power supply. Best Wishes Andy

Hi Mark, Thanks for the photos of your layout, it looks really good. Obviously a lot of thought and work has gone into it. I bet Harry and James love it. I've been looking for one of the ALR Baldwins for some time, but to no avail. It has my initials so I feel justified in running one. Let me know if it ever comes up for sale. Best Wishes Andy

Yes It works now, thanks.

I've just tried to register again and have got the same Error Code EX0 that I've encountered before.

Hi Mark, I will still be able to keep the realistic height of the track if I cover the whole baseboard! I will have a look on Ebay for 2mm cork rolls and check royston.g too. Thanks for your help. Best Wishes Andy

What a great layout, which I've only just seen!! Have you laid the track on cork underlay? If so, what thickness? Has it helped to deaden the sound? Best Wishes Andy