Tom F

I think I've sadly been unlucky twice, I don't intend to start fiddling with it (Hattons did say the body isn't particularly designed to come off), and I know someone else posted earlier in the thread that they had given up trying to look inside and are selling theres. Will be getting a High Level Chassis from Scale Four North.

No better I'm afraid (actually I'd say it's worse). This is after running in for the instructed time and oiling. I'll be sending back and wont be asking for a replacement, instead a refund. I'm sure some run sweetly and I've bee unlucky in acquiring two like this. I had asked that Hattons test the loco before sending, which going off the condition of this I don't think they have (could be wrong). May test with a decoder later on the layout, but ultimately I'll be building a chassis for a detailed airfix body.

Just to be pedantic, I don't believe Mainline ever did the 8750, only the 57XX, The 8750 was released by Bachmann in 1999. My replacement 5819 has arrived, about to go and test....wish me luck!

Just had a look regarding the Railroad 14XX. Pre order £34.50 at Rails...... I think that's going to be my way forward.

Currently awaiting my new model after the poor running of the 58XX I returned. I really have my fingers crossed this one will be a good runner. I did notice how sloppy the con rods were, it surely would have been a lot simpler to gear on one axle, and let the con rods do the work they are supposed to do (as on the prototype). I was originally going to have two of these, however I'm generally now thinking about the second one being the Railroad model coming out later this year. With a DCC chassis, repaint and the mainly trains detailing kit...it shouldn't be too shabby. It all depends on how well this replacement runs.

Thank you, I'm awaiting to here back from the product department of Hattons on the matter. I did fit a Digitrax decoder from in one of my 64XX's but the loco just buzzed. The tight spot however is one of the main issues though which I think is effecting it. Thanks for the info on the Zimo decoder.

Mine arrived today, however I will be contacting Hattons in the morning and sending it back. On Analogue it's fairly smooth although in reverse it has a really quite pronounced tight spot. However on DCC it's very poor. It's noisy and on acceleration it tends to jolt on speed steps (lenz system). I've fitted it with a Lenz silver mini which are a very good decoder but you wouldn't think so from watching it run. I even changed to a decoder I had in a Bachmann 64XX but this time it just buzzed. It had crossed my mind that it could be the built in capacitors (which I normally remove) causing the issues, but with it's odd design it's not easy to get the body off (Hattons recommended not removing the body when I enquired some months ago). Will return to Hattons and see what can be done. At the moment though, I feel really disappointed.

Good for you.... However for those of us that actually model a prototype, we need to renumber our locos to match those that worked a specific area..... So in my case, I need to renumber my 58XX....and if it had been done like conventional models, it would have been a lot simpler job.

That is good news and an easy fix. What plates are you using? I've some modelmaster ones at the ready to renumver my 58xx but I'm hoping they are a similar size to the Hattons plates.

Hmmm, it's an expensive mistake if it goes wrong. I'll be looking to try and get my plates out. Another reason the recess was a stupid idea.

Double post

Thanks, do you think it would be possibly to remove the original plates out to sand down off the model, to avoid damaging the loco?

From one I've handled the plates seem almost flush with sides, so I'm hoping replacement plates can just sit on top, granted that's if replacement plates are at least the same size or bigger.

The statement from Hattons states that DJM are to produce the OO gauge model, so Legend is quite within his rights to bring it up.

Has anyone renumbered their's yet? If so, how did they get on with the recess?

It's personal preference of course, but my thoughts were to just change the wheels and buffers. Many thanks for your reply.

How would one go about converting this model into an AA19. Obviously a change of buffers. I'm happy to skip some minor details, after all it will be a layout item of rolling stock.

Take some small Xurons, take excess wire above and below....snip. Simples

Hi Hatton's Dave. I presume at this point, December is now looking unlikely? Something to look forward to in the New Year.

New tooling of the AA15 diagram, separate handrails and fine detail. News just in, new for 2017 - two newly tooled 'Toad' Brake Vans featuring a very high level of detail including handrails, handbrake levers, underside and other detailing. R6823 GWR AA15 20 Ton Goods Brake Van 'Toad' 56866 and R6824 BR (ex-GWR) AA15 20 Ton Goods Brake Van 'Toad' W68571 will be available in late 2017. Certainly welcome upgrade over Bachmann's ex Mainline offering. http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/stop-press-exclusive-warley-announcement/

Didn't a Hall or Grange end up in York around 1958 after coming up the GCR? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

It has been said that Hatton's will not supply spares due to limited numbers on parts. I would like to portray a 58XX with a topfeed (as some did get them in the 1950s) so what would be the best way to go about this? Buy a 14XX and remove the autogear from the front? I don't particularly wish to buy a spare 14XX to take parts off to put on a 58XX.

Following on from these comments by 57XX, would you be able to supply spares for say (for example) someone wishing to make a 58XX using your model, but was fitted with a top feed?

Estimated delivery from Hattons now Dec2016/Jan2017.

Morning Hatton's Dave. Is the timescale for these still September/October? Thanks