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Hear Hear. There is no getting away from the expense of trying to to create life like lineside greenery. I am currently planning how the southern approach to Arrochar should be modelled where the number of trees and bushes required is frightening and, no doubt, the cost of modeling it eye watering. The number of trees that I used at Ardlui was far greater than I had anticipated and even now I question if I have added sufficient. As afternoon draws on 37108 is pictured departing Ardlui and winding its way south along the banks of Loch Lomond as it heads to Blyth with 6E46 comprised of empty hoppers returning for refill. It is not just Ardlui, all of the landscape could be more densely populated and just needs the weeks Euromillions numbers to match my selection so I can afford to do so! I am still working through the wagon fleet checking the back to back gauges and was surprised to find the Lima hoppers in these pictures which have been rewheeled with Bachmann wheels, were particularly tight. My surprise was based on my experience of running where they are probably the least likely wagons to derail and that on a layout where derailments are surprisingly few is saying something.

The Primo Spruce have been planted but not fixed in place as yet, the uniformity needs breaking up. The trees are certainly imposing being about twice the height of the previous trees.

The Primo firs arrived at the weekend and will get installed in the next few days. At first glance they look very good although a little uniform which means I'll need to tweak them to try and create some noticeable differences. At Garelochead 8D09 was booked to pass 1B15, 1823 Glasgow to Oban captured on the approach to its Garelochead stop headed by 37112.

I have not seen anyone attempt to add rivets but I have seen several attempts to fit the cantrail dividing bars using slithers of plastic cut to size and painted. None have been very good in my opinion, whether it would be any easier in 0 gauge I have no idea. The wet weather meant that I had a day largely indoors yesterday resulting in a little running. 37178 had charge of 8D09 and is seen arriving at Garelochead. The loco was outshopped from Doncaster in early 1983 having received a full overhaul and repaint making it one of those on my list of those requiring a light weathering and a few cosmetic tweaks.

For many years I was blissfully ignorant of class 37 roof and cantrail differences, then I learnt about them and started trying to replicate them. The following is a 'cut and paste' explanantion from an article I read and copied a while ago: 'D6700 - D6798 as built had riveted roofs, all vertical strips that run from one side of the roof to the other. These are double riveted on the first 42 locos, the next 56 had single riveted strips and the remaining split headcode and all centre headcode locos had welded (smooth) roofs'. The standard Bachmann riveted roof shown in the first picture looks single riveted. This loco was originally 37049 and which I renumbered to 37108, should be welded hence why I plan to file down the 3 central rows of rivets. The rivets at each end will have to stay which I am relaxed about which is just as well because I cannot see a practical way of changing these to the welded profile. Bachmann welded roof Cantrail grilles with extra dividing/strengthening bars were fitted to all RSH built 37's (D6769-D6795 D6879-D6898) and Vulcan built D6700 - D6705 but with a groove round as they were removable. Bachmann have not done many RSH locos, I used the limited edition 37003 for my 2 RSH split box locos 37081 and 37085. I don't have any centre headcode ones yet, I looked at the new styled dividing bar on 37194 and thought that it was a very poor attempt. Hopefully Accurascale get around to some of these in the near future as I am sure they will do a better job. Vulcan build cantrail grills RSH build cantrail grills have a central dividing/strenthening bar

It is mid October and Rapido's website still shows the OAA's as due this month. I cannot find any other information (and have no interest in newsetters), does anybody have an uodate on when we might expect these to be available?

Fortunately I only require 3 trees to represent those that were evident at Crianlarich during my time period. Even so at £14 per tree they are not cheap. Elsewhere I have been captivated by the SDEG's steam heat 37 book which, amongst many things, highlights the various unique features of individual locos. One of which is 37264 where I already knew my version was incorrect for the early 1980's, just prior to its late 1983 visit to Crewe works from which it emerged as the first official class 37 in large logo. I bought my loco 10 years or so ago as 37251 which I renumbered and added terrier logos prior to it being weathered by TMC. Back then I was blissfully ignorant of Flickr with its range of reference pictures and so missed several of the more subtle detail points. The SDEG book prompted me to make a start on the updates required to make 264 more prototypical. I started to remove some of the weathering in an effort to create a cleaner, weather beaten loco using enamel thinners and numerous cotton buds. The old Western Region headboard clips were removed with the intention of using them on 37175 but 1 of the 4 managed to make a succesful bid for freedom and now hides somewhere on the carpet!. From a Heljan detailing pack I added the nameboard bracket above the headcode, I still want to remove more of the weathering but the revised loco is nearing completion and a return to service.

Based upon the numerous pictures I have seen which can be found in the Flickr BSOT gallery created by SC55015, I think the vestibule ends are mostly, if not all, blue. Many appear black but this is krap uncleaned during carriage washing, not black paint.

Most helpful; thanks Andy. I am impressed by your woodlands, somehwere for Glenfinnan to run through I guess? I have ordered some of the 20 - 22 cm Spruce from Primo which will replace the existing and rather modest existing trees at Crianlarich. The whole area above the station could do with beefing up, hopefully the Primo Spruce will be the start of this.

For such a landmark group of trees I would take the pain of the cost just to create the right image above Crianlarich station and yard. No one has defintively identified the tress as yet, I am wondering if they are conifers like Leylandi planted by the house owner as a barrier between their garden and the railway? Given how little traffic there was I cannot see it being noisy area but some people are keen to mark their boundaries. Given the second picture below they are not Leylandi which would be much larger by now but still possibly a conifer. 40 years later and in 2021 only 1 tree appears to remain. It has not grown much taller but still looks like a conifer to me.

Thanks for the thought, as it happens I have a couple of spare class 37 bodies that I could use if practice was required. Perhaps a little arrogantly but I don't feel the need to practice, rather I need to get back into the routine of modelling. Since our return from holiday I have managed to spend more time outside making the most of the dry, warm weather. Judging by the frost on my neighbours roof Saturday morning, Autumn appears to be setting in. I travelled to GETS yesterday and was impressed by several of the layouts. WIth large crowds it was not easy to watch them operating and the trade support was modest. I managed to pick up a few bits and pieces but failed to get all of the requirements on my list. I like the Primo Models range of trees and will be reasearching pictures to see where I might add some of their impressive Larch and Spruce. My tree identification skills are in management speak 'a learning opportunity' but I want to update the 3 trees in the top right front of the first picture and growing out of 37 roof in the second picture below. What are they?

If you do not know what power your layout is drawing, how can you make an informed decision on whether you need a booster? I would accept that a meter is not required on an ongoing basis but as a one off exercise to know your power demand I consider it essential. I recently spent £80 on a DCC Concepts Alpha Meter which showed that I did not need the booster I thought I needed which in turn saved me the £200 that a typical ESU booster costs. The lack of comment on alternative wireless controllers reflects how few of them there are. I did not want to have to import Cab Control but given the limited choices and my precise requirements it was the best option I could find. Guagemaster's Prodigy Advance 2 wireless is an option but is dated technology much like the Powercab. I ran a Prodigy for about 10 years prior to Cab Control without any problems. Roco's Z21 is another wireless system but I know nothing of this.

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No, as I and others have stated, Cab Control (CC) is not currently available in Europe despite ESU stating they would be releasing it in Europe some time back. Importing from the USA is not difficult in the 21st century although this obviously comes with additional potential for issues if problems arise. My comments reflect my own experiences with CC which, after a lot of research, I judged to be the best option available for my requirements. Despite one or two teething issues which were mostly of my creation and resolved by a combination of perseverance and the assistance of several helpful RMWebber's, I am well pleased with CC. Referring back to the original post, the questions raised were 'What do folks think of the new DCC Concepts ESP Ψ Aegis 5 Amp Wireless System for PowerCab?' and 'should I upgrade to a more powerful and wireless system?' The conclusions reached seem to be Aegis is an expensive and less than optimal upgrade to 1990's dated technology where there are superior, more up to date alternatives available for similar outlay. If I were in the same position as the OP I would not be spending my cash on Aegis. Having used both Powercab and CC, in my opinion CC is a considerably better control system. Any decision to change controller is predominantly an individual and personal judgement which is likely best made if well informed about the alternatives available and with clarity over what is actually required. Hopefully the feedback on this thread will faciltate the OP's decision.

I arrived home yesterdy to find my copy of the book waiting. Wow, as others have said it feels like the definitive article for somebody who models the early 1980's Scottish era. My only negative is the level of detail contained in the book means that I have a lot of re-working and updating required for my fleet.

I was incorrect in making the statement and have updated the comment. What I should have stated was according to Platform 5's 1984 Coaching Stock book, 13 of the 18 BSOT conversions were SCR allocated. The other 5 (No's 9009,9010,9011,9013 and 9014) were allocated to Cambridge.

ESU link to their marketing spiel attached below. Cab Control comprises 2 components and is all you need to operate a layout including an inbuilt receiver in the internal control unit which links via wifi to the Mobile Control 2 handheld unit. I have zero knowledge of what Cab Control can be used with as I use it on a standalone basis to run my layout. What I will say is that if I can use Cab Control, anyone can! https://www.esu.eu/en/products/digital-control/cabcontrol/

Based on my experience I disagree with this assertion. I have 20 plus sound chipped, 00 gauge locos including 4 Heljan ones which from my recently installed DCC Concepts Alpha meter, shows I draw a total curent that remains stable at around 1.2 Amps even when running several locos with sound on. My controller only provides power for the layout, I have seperate power supply for accessory control. As an alternative to Powercab I suggest that ESU's 7Amp Cab Control be considered. This is more up to date than Powercab, comprises a wireless hand held controller made and supported by a known German manufacturer which can be imported into the UK from the USA for a total cost of around £400.

Helpful clarification on 9001, clearly the external finish of the BSOT was changed around 3 or 4 years after its intial conversion. Until now in my mind I questioned SC55015's views on the use of rail grey painted on the window but the above picture is clear even to a colour blind person. I still think that an internal covering rather than paint was used on many of the BSOT buffet windows. What looks like an original cover can still be seen on 9003 below but, as we know, there were plenty of deviations from the original plans. For modelling purposes it is probably delving into too much detail but the BSOT's have got my interest and I would like to get a better understanding of how they evolved. I have looked in the early editions of Rail Enthusiast magazine which date from 1981 but these are silent on BSOT's. Does anyone have any magazines dating back to the period that might contain some information?

Indeed, I have several 'as new' locos that I want to lightly weather so that they look similar to 37081 above but I am not totally confident in my ability to do so. I mentioned above an article in September's Hornby Magazine where the techniques used look about right, I need to bite the bullet and try them out on one of my pristine locos.

Interestingly the original Buffet sign installed on SC9001's conversion has been removed from the coach bodyside and replaced by what I'll call the standard window mounted sign. I cannot determine the length of the red stripe above the windows which we know changed at some stage. Having created both 9000 and 9001 in the same style, I would happily change one of them to something slightly different if I can find pictures to support the change. This latest picture does half a job, ideally I need to find another 1983 picture of 9001 taken from the opposite side showing the buffet window cover. For comparison, 9001 as converted.

ESU announced Cab Control was going to be sold into Europe some time ago but not much seems to have happened. I imported Cab Control from the USA through Iron Planet Hobbies. Despite one or two issues along the way most of which were of my creation, I am well pleased with Cab Control.

25's were infrequent WHL visitors but by no means unkown during the class 27 era.

Interesting in that it is the original Scotrail branding that has been applied and the widow has been adorned with a second Buffet sign.. My understanding is that the application of Scotrail dates to 1984, prior to the adoption of ScotRail as the branding suggesting that this has been on the coach for a couple of years.

You gentlemen that have already received the new SDEG class 37 book have the advantage on me. I have had my email advising that the book has been despatched but I am away from home on holiday at present. My expecatations for the book are high; I am already looking forward to getting home. More pictures that are new to me are the ones below of 37039 arriving at Crianlarich with a down freight. The first wagon is an OAA with an excellent example of the load and tarpaulin I want to create for the Rapido OAA wagons which should be available shortly.