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Still trying to discover whether the trains ran into Hayfield station or not. One source says no, another photo (that I've now lost!) seems to have the carriages in a station siding. @runs, I assumed it was the bridge above where the tennis court is now? The garage on this photo from the end of Spring Vale Rd looks to be on the track bed (?)

Unable to find workers wagons in teh Peak... There seems to be one working the Kinder Railway in 1908-1911 during construction of the Kinder dam. There is also a large print works half way up the railway and it would of provided access to higher ground from the station at Hayfield for hikers.

Based on dads small holding and livestock family history, and my wifes family history in Ireland... This covers sheep but something similar seems to hold true for highland cattle breeding. Pigs I know nothing about, other than access to feed would seem to be a primary issue. Primary breading of livestock for slaughter takes place in parts of the countryside economically unsuitable for arable farming. Cattle breading requires sustained grass growth, while sheep production can take place in upland areas unsuitable for large scale beaf production. Upland farmers grade their lambs in the autumn. Only a small number of the best males are kept for breading, the rest are sold in the autumn for lowland fattening and slaughter. Of the females 2/3 of the stock will be kept for breading, the other 1/3rd or will be sold to other farmers for flock development or to lowland farmers for interbreeding or fattening. 1/3 of the breeding stock (those that have reached 3-4 years of age) is also sold for slaughter as mutton. For upland stock you're looking at 110-120% production, 50/50 male and female. The traffic generated would be large, but highly seasonal (autumnal). For 100 breading yews on the hill, come the autumn; 70-80 lambs are heading to lowland farms, 30-35 yews are heading direct end point markets as mutton. The stock required for upland breading are small and hardy (and taisty). To get a large but tasty animal for slaughter hill breed yews will be bread with "fat lamb" lowland rams to produce a hybrid animal for slaughter. So if your prototype is lowland then you would see a heavy traffic in the autumn with highland stock being received against a back drop of gradual shipment of fattened animals to slaughter in the areas of high demand. Upland market towns would see incoming stock from the local areas and local markets for the sales and their shipment onwards having been sold. In lowland areas the flock is split up with farms and small holdings taking on what stock they could to fatten and then sell to butchers and back to the dealers. The local fattening of cattle on small holdings before sale for slaughter seems to be a distinct feature of rural Irish life. So if wagons are liveried then I'm guessing that they would be the dealers in highland stock transporting them to lowland areas for fattening and butchers buying highland mutton and lowland fattened slaughter stock. I'd suggest that beards where be highly localized, so you wouldn't see much movement of bread animals but for a few big dealers.

yes please!!

Is it true that the isle of man has the highest density of massonic lodges found any where in the world?

Paper mock-ups of the station house, ticket office and waiting rooms

Thanks Mark. I have a friend with a printer. Not shapeways quality but i'm not sure fine stuff like corse work will survive sanding and priming anyway. So scribing may be the order of the day??

Obligatory templot on baseboard view from the signal box photo...

Control blocks and summary of operations Hayfield Station is a terminus with trains arriving on the down line and departing on the up line. The station consists of an 8 track ladder. With a few edge cases any operation requires control over the station throat so access to the throat is guarded by physical or virtual signalling. As a result it's going to be rare to have more than one loco in motion. The level crossing a the top of the throat will also take control of the throat. The up line runs to the platform, with the down line providing the run around via a lead at the top of the throat. This lead also provides the connection when switching locos and stock between ladders. For goods shunting it's also possible to use the up line a the entry of the station as a lead. To the north 2 sidings provide servicing for engines and passenger stock. When necessary the north most track also acts as a head shunt. The next 2 tracks provide service for the Kinder Railway. North a siding used for services on the KR and to its south the KR arrival and departure track. The south of the platform 3 tacks provide good services. The north most track access the good shed. The southernmost sidings provide staging for wagons on arrival or ready for departure.

More progress...

Thanks for the tip jim. Will try one each way.

Some progress made on the front elevation of the station house. Not sure what to do with the stones in the wall. Include in the model, stick on stone effect afterwards or leave as is. The stone work on the prototype is pretty flat and probably wouldn't be visible at scale. What's the general consensus on the best approach for 2mm?

what would happen in the real world? An old barrel to give a leg up until the rung is fixed?

My version of a TOU would involve the embeded wifi chips and layout control over the interweb cloud! Not exactly in keeping with the minimalist 2FS vibe and many other newer (to me) rabbit holes to explore first. At the moment im finding the prospect of tracing the stone patten on a prototype for 3d print deeply exciting.

How about a slight dish or hump to the turn table track so that the wagon self centers?

Might lessen the impact on the points from overthow by the servo as well?

Following this with interest and very keen to hear your learnings and guidance for anyone looking to do similar Chris

Taking a crack at an LNER F1 body in 2mm

The problem seems to be that they include more than 1 loco on an etc sheet and prefer to wait for those to sell out first. They do anticipate doing more in future so if you have an interest perhaps drop them an email and let them know!

Looks like the N5 is currently out of stock. I've inquired what the minimum order would be for them to consider doing a run What they have for 2mm: NER/LNER/BR EF1 Bo+Bo LNER/BR EB1 Bo+Bo NER/LNER/BR ES1Bo-Bo Hunslet 05 Hunslet 7051 Barclay D2400 Barclay class 06 Barclay class 01 English Electric/Hawthorn Leslie BR class 17 Clayton J63 Ruston 165DS Ruston 88 DS Hunslet 15” Sentinel 0-6-0 RH PWM650 NBL 2700 NBL D2745 English Electric/Baguley – Harton 13-15 currently out of stock SR/Paxman BR11001 – currently out of stock LMS/BR Jackshaft 12023-32 – currently out of stock Hunslet MDHB No. 32 – currently out of stock Hunslet 16” - currently out of stock NBL D2720 – currently out of stock CP Sentinel 0-6-0DH (1:160) – currently out of stock N5 0-6-2T - currently out of stock Hunslet 05 high cab - currently out of stock Yorkshire Engine Janus – currently out of stock

3D printed N2 and C12 body shells. http://www.shapeways.com/shops/atso-cadmodels

RAIL471 and RAIL224 look like they may be useful but I'm not sure what level I could expect from the plans. They have records of the proposed LNWR Disley - Hayfield line too. That could make things interesting (way) down the line.

Forms filled in this morning

Seconded on the N5. The donkey work on the line looks to be N5/F1/F2. Not sees any sign of a 2-4-2 chasy so far. Apparently Worsley Works habe a scratch aid kit for the C13. Slightly out of era for me i suspect. RTR the only option looks like a Bachmans or Union Mills J11. Any problem with converting them to 2fs?

Ooo i didn't see that on their website. Thanks for the tip off. An F1/F2 kit would be top of the list. 3 of those would probably be all that was needed. All the photos of the branch feature them. I think and a D12 would be next, while converting a J11 from n-gauge looks to be the most reasonable starting point to get going. ... but before all that there's a piece of Easitrack track and a wagon kit! Ric