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How about a Dictator Loco Class?

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  1. 1 second 32frame video of mineral wagon launch on a short 7m track. This was one of the only times it derailed annoyingly. Due to a wobbly launch. trim.DFF096AB-A356-416A-BDE8-81D8070D80AC.MOV
  2. Bertiedog 60mph is good!! X 76 for 00 gauge = 4,560mph in scale If the speed of sound is maybe 747mph at a believable ground level that would be over Mach 6!! Technically a train (rocket sled) on conventional rails, has in real life done Mach 8.5 over 6,000mph at Holloman Airforce Base USA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holloman_Air_Force_Base But my ultimate future dream is 22,000 mph in 00 scale the same as a Saturn 5 rocket, the fastest thing humans have traveled in. It would help me to visualise what 22,000 mph looks like! 289mph in scale. Models don't have to deal with the mamoth impossible centrifugal G loadings of real life size wheels. I have rocket motors in my bedroom that would fit an 00 model with ease that can push near those speeds. The more pure electric, wheel driven slot car records and data must come first though before dreaming of such (possible) lunacy. 129metres per second. Devided by 21metres 17.5cm per mile in scale is 6miles a second if I'm correct. Dear me! So I can't just hire the indoor 100m running track near my home! But the 60mph model shouldn't be a pipe dream! Think of the Donald Camble, Richard Noble, Andy Green, Guy Martin, James May, Sir Nigel Gresley type British charactors who pioneer speed records. We should have this record!
  3. Haha yes Everyone is saying get James May involved. Wow what excellent input! (Sorry for all the spelling mistakes by the way!) I work for TMC (The Model Center) so getting hold of silly amounts of track and parts has been a doddle. The wheels do wheel spin like mad on set off, acelerates like a top fuel dragster! Needs full reverse power to stop at those speeds. It gets burning hot in no time so has a cooling fan on it. I want some of those beasty powerful 40,000rpm + slot car motors on it. I love the idea of the railway wall of death! Genius! I'd be up for doing that too. A 00 Guy Martin can be in the cab. I have pictures and videos but don't know how to upload them as I'm new to rmweb sadly. I'd talk of ride on lawnmower speed record related knowledge I have but don't want to annoy the moderator and railway fans with my deviation. There was a scrap heap challenge program on the subject btw. At work we have in the passed built what was the longest scalextric track in the world but it has been surpassed now. Was early in the morning repeatedly going up and down the isles of the Trafford Centre all around the building. So TMC will support a nutts record attempt. I agree with having multiple coaches for power pickup. The lima loco on YouTube (under; worlds fastest model train) makes huge sparks and arks that Noah would be proud of!! And multiple coaches makes it actually class as a train by a more true definition. Plus more power for the same frontal drag. If we get a model going over 70mph or more aerodynamics comes into play ontop of the increasing wheel drag. Principle; a 4 man in a line rowing boat goes faster than a 1 or 2 man boat of the same width. Interestingly I tried larger wheels and in this application surprisingly smaller wheels run way better!!! If you try take a monster truck then a shopping trolley up a kerb the huge wheels are over it with ease and the little wheels can almost not do it. The larger wheeled model derails easily on its Duchess driving wheels. I think the prototype has 9ft driving wheels. 3.6cm tall on model. Thank you both for your great answers, knowledge and enthusiasm!!! I may want to pick your brains some more before I move on to cad designing my next units! Rob
  4. I would like to hear the views and ideas, of those who like the concept of setting a model rail world speed record! I've seen many model railway world records but not one for speed. Where as other model categories, ie R/C cars, planes, slot cars etc have official records. With schools around the UK (and abroad too I hear) getting involved in the Bloodhound SSC 1,000mph+ supersonic car project, I would like to make a mini copy of such enthusiasm. But in this case for model engineering and model railways. To set a very very incredible speed would hopefully cause a little media interest. I want to try promote model railways as an exciting hobby and learning ground. So far I've made a 00 gauge model that is breaking the 500mph barrier along my long straight test track. 3metres per second + And I've run a catapulted 21t mineral wagon progressively faster until breaking 1,000mph 6metres per second barrier. (13mph+ actual speed) I see potential to greatly better these figures. As in maybe beyond 10,000mph at the very top end. To run the model through a scenic test track with onboard camera and through a measured mile is the goal. 21metres 17.5cm per mile in scale. If anyone would like to help or to build a rival model to compete or tell what speeds they can achieve then I'd greatly welcome that. Also ideas on how to increase speeds. Additional trivia; Over 100,000 rpm (blown with two airbrushes running on 90psi ish), the mineral wagon wheels wear out their plastic axle boxes in about 40seconds. Obviously superior engineering is required. My 18,000rpm Hornby slot car style motor drove the 3.7cm wheels to near 36,000rpm with two wheel turns for one motor turn. Each 1gram weight reduction made the powered model roughly 0.1seconds per 6 metres faster. About 10 years ago I started my interest in this when I painted a Hornby HST up in early crest BR green and upped its grearing by 18 times!! There is a Lima loco on YouTube that runs very fast using several power controlors wired in serise hitting somewhere around 50to 60 volts I think!
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