How about a Dictator Loco Class?

This is an idea size wise of how the twin motor racing Wickham fits together. The wheels are hollowed to cup over part of the motor then the drive shafts are cut to length. I'll use my much much thinner wires though. Weight is an issue to get good power pickup. So magn-adhesion principles are used.

Hahaha! Well I've smashed 3 speed record models up in varying speeds of crashes so far. I run a similar set up in the crazy racing version of my N gauge Wickham Trolley that I sell on shapeways. 4,000mph in scale is well within its ability in theory. 4 wheel drive big spoilers, wind tunnel tested. The front spoiler is the most important as it flips over backwards at speed without it. The air intake is functional and actually needed for cooling it's motors. I might put it for sale and see if anyone will ever buy one. I doubt it though. Everyone is too sensible (-: https://www.shapeways.com/product/RUDGSECST/wickham-trolley-car-update-oo?optionId=63731069

Wow that's awesome! Thank you for sharing that. It's rather like a deluxe, huge, battle City turbo car. If that's what they were called. I'm on with an N gauge chassis design now that will hopefully smash my speed records to bits. 80,000rpm at the wheels, direct drive an almost weightless.

Still working on this project. But now focusing on gear driven over band driven. And developing EDF electronic ducted fan powered versions too.

Wow that sounds so similar to what I've been thinking! Interesting. Thank you!

I love the fact that you're making yourself easily understood and you're helping me. So many people can't help but try make themselves look more intelligent rather than make things more simple to understand. What you said is very interesting! Thank you for your wise, helpful input. Rob

This sounds like that question of if a tree fell in a forest and nobody was there to hear it, did it make a sound? If every physical thing in the universe stopped moving for one year has time stopped or continued? If every physical thing in the universe stopped moving except the earth rotated at its current rate for a day has time stopped? Why do things have to move for time to elapse?

The earth is obviously nearer Jupiter and orbiting the sun faster on Mondays then!

Interesting points. Thank you! Ok so if you start with a set speed/velocity which is defined in specific distance traveled over a specific time. Then time is reduced, why would the g force then change? I'm not trying to outsmart you. You know more than me. I'm trying to understand deeper. I appreciate your help! Thanks!

Ok then what if it were possible to orbit nothing and have no movement. (Lets not focus on how this could be achieved) If some environment was setup under these theoretical conditions and then you could increased and decrease gravitational influence on mechanical clocks and all other forms of clocks. Would not the gravity increase slow the clocks? We can move onto speed later! It's also worth thinking about but it's good to break things down a bit.

Anyone who is interested in relativity usually knows quite well how it is explained. But instead let's focus on an alternative idea that time isn't relative but is a constant. It's interesting to question things sometimes and see if there is a basis to defend an alternative odd view. An analog clock's hands would move slower to a degree on Jupiter due to increased gravity and friction etc. But has time slowed down or remained constant? If even light can be affected by gravity, potentially atoms too could slow down, almost anything could be slowed including most types of time measuring devices. If time is more like duration rather than velocity, then just because every moving thing may slow down in a certain environment, has time actually changed? Or actually just the speed things move has been affected? Instead of driving 60miles at 60mph I can double my speed to 120mph and arrive in half the time. 60miles in 30 minutes. So I can change velocity or speed. But if we maintain the same velocity neither accelerating or decelerating at all from 60mph (so no acceleration g forces or deceleration g forces) and somehow we halved the time instead of changing the speed you couldn't get there in half the time. You would surely have only gone half the distance? I'm only interested in people that want to try having a bash at supporting this crazy idea. And not in hearing the same old explications regurgitated by annoyed people and people who want to try look very wise and try show off their superior understanding. This is just a little mess about and challenge. Thank you! (-:

Does your OBD device show current/instantaneous mpg higher than 99.9mpg? I'd love a device that goes vastly higher to see what cars are really doing on in gear over run.

Messing about with some Westerns again. The problem is time constraints though. Some effects would require a vast amount of extra time before I'd be truly satisfied. And as mentioned, few would pay for that much time. Often I just carry on detailing anyway and loose out on a few £ for the sake of a better result. The latter pics go back in time to show some of the process/stages to achieve the very grubby, faided, streaky effect on one of the locos.

If you're ever up in TMC's neck of the woods, pop in and I'll let you cherry pick some fascinating stock out and have a go.I'm sure I'd be far more excited about visiting Loftus Road than you would be about visiting our place though lol! It's great to hear how much time, effort and detail people have been putting into their projects. Thank you!

What litre is the Mustang? Hahaha! My dad does the exact same thing. He has detailed records of every tank of fuel he's ever had and he does the same for me! I'm often heading for 1,000miles to 1,200miles from a tank, but I have to fill up too early or do loads of fast journeys and short journeys and endless traffic jams! And my 76mile journey to work gets so flipping hilly!!! Grrr! I'm back on for the 1,000 this month even though it's not that warm. I was doing long journeys at near 100mpg last week too, which is early in the year to be getting that high mpg. Annoyingly my current car's guage stops at 99mpg and the bar chart history logs at a mere 80mpg. Fortunately my phone app and accurate fill up to fill up sums give the needed data.

Back in the days of my 150bhp 320nm Astra SRI 1.9cdti sport hatch (+£8k of optional extras hehe), I once got 722 miles out of a tank. Averaging 61.something? mpg for the full tank. It's top extra urban book figure was 60.1mpg. So good records for such a car. But my current car has never done that bad lol! Does anyone have a Vauxhall Ampera??? I'd love to drive one for a while! I've never seen a car beat one for mpg. 320mpg roughly on extra urban I recall. And I can usually get another 20% out of any vehicle. They're 150bhp too, so not sluggish.

That's not at all bad for the size/weight and power of your car!What does the LD stand for please? I've forgotten.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!Did someone mention Chevrolet Camero!!!! Wooooh! I'm totally crazy about Cameros! Mmmmmuscle car! The hypermiler's vehicle of choice any day I'd say. Trash mpg but I enjoy hypermiling, deafening people with it's brutal roar(remove a chip in the boot/trunk to allow it's full song!), tyre squealing and tail snaking on savage takeoff in that machine more than any super car I've thrashed. The conversion to right hand drive is over £20,000. Almost another 2nd hand decent Camero. It's not worth the money, but buy the highest spec you can get! The top extras are great! ie G-force sensors on the heads up display. Yep just over 30mpg could be hit on a short runs. (2012 Camero SS Convertible 6.2 V8) The top book figure is 29.1(UK)mpg. But like you I've never got much beyond 25mpg on good long runs and full tanks. The pic shows the lower US mpg. If I get married the wife must get this as a present. Or more likely a 208mph (unlimited) SL55AMG for similar price. Then she can say her first car was a 200mph car lol!! Where as mine was a H reg 1.4 astra lol! But I loved it.

Most people don't seem to know this though! Your totally right! They think that their maths proves it untrue even. For eg; Say you have a car capable of 60mpg top end. You drive it up a hill averaging 20mpg to get up, then you go back down the hill averaging 2,500mpg. Then car's computer would give the combined average as near to 40mpg. But by their maths and lodgic; 40 + 2,500 = 2,540mpg / 2 trips (one up & one down) = 1,270mpg And the yet the display says 39.9mpg so they conclude their maths has proved the super high descent mpg as totally wrong! The real logic, inline with your words John is; If you drive up a long long hill at 20mpg for 20 miles, using 1 gallon and then turn off the engine and roll back. You will have travelled 40miles on 1 gallon. But with the engine running in over run mode, it's used several tea spoons of fuel on the way down. Hence a reading like 39.9mph

The car is giving you accurate figures. It's not broken. When a cars display is set to 'instantaneous mpg' rather than 'average mpg' , it's giving you live second by second data instead of an average. In this mode, cars regularly display 99mpg or 999mpg. It will not show such figures unless you are decelerating or rolling in gear. (A car can be rolling in gear sometimes even though the throttle is slightly depressed or cruise control active) Put the car in neutral and the figure will actually drop. To between 40mpg at very low speed, to around 450+mpg at higher speeds in neutral. Modern cars have a feature called 'over run'. When you roll in gear, the car's momentum is quickly turning the engine. So the 'over run' feature then knows your engine can be supplied several times less fuel than required at just tickover! Actual mpg is at these times beyond the car's read out. Literally in the low thousands of mpg.

Not bad Serbian Sniper!

Why is this Horsetan's sort of interest? (-:

I'm interested in your best mpg you have achieved on a journey or a full tank. And what is the highest range you have achieved. Don't be shy if someone has done better than you or has a less thirsty vehicle. Please still share your achievements and your words on this subject. It can be a competition if you want to. Maybe devided into vehicle types and an out and out record. Reasons to do it; It takes skill, it's rewarding, it can save you a very large amount of money, it can be a source of constant entertainment on boring journeys. If you're sad like me and don't get impatient (-: If you want tips I'll help you too. A good goal is to try beat your vehicle's official book figures. It is a totally reachable target. See who can exceed their vehicle's official book figures by the highest percentage maybe. (Gives a more level playing field with a wide variety of vehicles compared) To start things off, in my dad's petrol 1.6 petrol automatic Renault Scenic I got 52mpg driving 76 miles between Leeds and the North Yorkshire Moors.

Thank you for your answers. It's nice that you are modest James! Your team doesn't seem to have any weak links. You must all be very satisfied and proud of your achievements. I think the underneath of a layout can be very impressive to see. I've always said the layout my dad built me looks even more impressive underneath. Such a vast neat web of intricate wires. Nobody photos that though. I'd love to have a peep under Loftus Road lol I'd find the modelling side less daunting than the woodwork/electrics etc. But your modelling is wonderful. Thanks for putting up interesting pictures of construction phases! And the relevant music for the modelling periods too lol So the VEP is actually a made from a totally different livery donor then?