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I've just posted two new threads in the 'Build a Loco' section.

If that wasn't enough, then the SECR C1 Class 2-6-0 is another considered project of mine.

During construction of the C Class, there was talk about a mixed-traffic locomotive for the SE&CR routes. In 1905, the result was a C Class with a pony truck placed at the front and extension of the running-board. This locomotive became the C1 Class 2-6-0 locomotive and a handful of 115 were built between 1905 to 1908. The locomotive proved quite useful even when compared to its sister class in which plans were inspired from.

During the First World War, one locomotive was used to haul ambulance trains and even survived a raid. All 115 locomotives were then inherited into the newly-formed Southern Railway in 1923 and a number of them saw service along the SR routes. The class continued into BR nationalisation and became workhorses on commuter trains and express goods. Withdrawals took place between 1960 to 1965.

One locomotive, No. 287, has survived into preservation and survives on the Kent & East Sussex Railway.

What do you think? I might get another Bachmann C Class and make that into reality someday. The model would have its front buffer beam cut off and the running board would be extended. A pony truck would be added on at the front of the chassis and fitted into place.

Here is a profile for it:

The locomotive, No. 1991, was built in 1891 at Crewe Works using an extended version of Webb's Improved Precedent Class, but as a 2-6-0 Mogul. The main purpose of it was for mixed-traffic mainline duties and, on its first day of service, not only met expectations, but surpassed them greatly. 89 more were built between 1892 to 1902 most likely because of its popularity with crews and and enthusiasts, earning it the nickname 'Big Mike' as opposed to the 2-4-0 'Jumbos'. A handful of them worked along the Northampton to Birmingham lines while the rest were allocated to various parts of LNWR metals, except for Cumbria. Plans to build more locomotives of this class were considered but unfortunately fell through owing much to Webb's retirement and George Whale's succession in 1903. In 1923, the newly-established LMS railway company acquired a handful of these locomotives. Withdrawals finally took place until 1933 and continued until 1936. Fortunately, No. 1991, the class leader, survived into preservation and can be seen in its LMS crimson lake livery. Recently, in mid-to-late 2017, the locomotive was overhauled in time to commemorate the 100th Anniversary of the End of the First World War and to work on heritage lines in the UK.

After the success of my LNWR Mogul, I have planned a project for quite some time. It's the GWR 7100 Class 2-6-4T.

The  61xx Large Prairies are quite interesting and so have the GWR 72xx 2-8-2T tank engines. The 72xx did strike as a 2-6-4T which the LMS mostly used when it pulled coaches. This would be another 'what-if' locomotive that I have always wanted to do, really.

The GWR 7100 Class were designed and built with incorporated plans of the 61xx 2-6-2T and 72xx 2-8-2T locomotives but with a double-trailing rear-axle. The class earned the nickname 'Platypuses' because of the rear double trailing axles like tails. 100 of these were built between 1933 to 1935 and were used on rural and suburban branchlines. The class survived into British Railways nationalisation until they were withdrawn between 1961 and 1964, one year before steam on the British Railways Western Region ended. No less than six locomotives survive under preservation including the first of its class which was first built at Wolverhampton and still survives today.

I haven't any pictures, but when I do get around to it, you'll all see the locomotive taking shape as it gradually builds it way up.

It's a 3F at a quick glance to tell the differance a 4F has a raised "step" up over the cylinders on the running plate and front buffer beam in front of the smoke box where as the 3F is flat as you can see in these two photo's the first shows a 3F with a flat running plate and the second a 4F with the raised step

Fascinating. You can really tell the difference. It's a shame that none of the 3Fs have survived.

The LNWR, the L&YR and the MR are my top-fave Pre-Grouping railway companies, so this should be interesting.

Some lovely work has gone into this. Very creative. 

Thanks very much! I appreciate it.

Suppose there could have been an SECR Experimental Mogul based on the C Class?

This question implies you don't understand how this forum works. Go and look at post 1882. You got it, right? Then so did all of us.

Thanks. Sorry about that. I was making two replies at once earlier, but they also got mixed together somehow.

Did anybody get my question about the SECR Experimental Mogul?

If it were it would have to have less than 1750hp installed horsepower - the TOPS classes were arranged in order of power.

True, but it would still be a mixed-traffic locomotive.

I was asked by Niles how I made the locomotive, so I'll explain.

It started out as an old Tri-ang B12 body which was later broken and cut about. A tall chimney was then added on and so were LNWR-esque fittings. The windows were filled up with Milliput and then cut out to make rounded ones. Stylish glazing was then added in as well as detailing in the cab, a Pre-Grouping safety valve complete with whistle mounted on top of the cab and handrails on either side of the boiler as finishing items. It looked like a stretched version of an Improved Precedent but as an experimental mixed-traffic locomotive from the 1890s (the time period I have chosen to model). Plasticard and Milliput as filler were used to create the boxed sides of the cab and splasher.

Some bits were cut off, filed away and added on (the tall chimney, the large splashers made from Plasticard and the safety valve) and with help from a friend of mine who is also a model railway dealer, the locomotive began gradually moving on step by step. Other projects of mine included a GWR 7100 Class 2-6-4T (still in progress) and a British Rail Class 19 Bo-Bo diesel locomotive (in development).

The tender came directly from Bachmann as a spare from a G2A (an LNWR tender) which fit the locomotive perfectly appropriately. Because the loco body was an old tooling, the modern Hornby chassis for said-tooling of locomotive fit very well despite the crack at the back which was then filled in. The footsteps weren't actually added onto until later. In accordance with the original photoshop image that an Australian fella kindly did when I first mentioned the possiblity of an LNWR Mogul (which I am still eternally grateful) and that set the wheels in motion for this project.

As for the livery, I actually did consider the LNWR lined blackberry livery, but instead later changed my mind in favour of the LMS Crimson livery. The first choice (and accurate one) was Crimson Lake that was appropriate for the locomotive, but made it look too dark and purple-ish, so after looking at various preserved steam locomotives (mostly the LMS Hughes Crab), I opted for BR Crimson instead and it looks better than before. The LMS lettering was applied to the tender and the number I chose for it was 1991 (the year I was born) and like Chesney Hawkes, it was The One and Only.

And there you have it - that's how the model came to be. What is next for me, I wonder? I don't normally look at all my models and say, "Yes, that's it, I'm satisfied." I just want to go onto the next thing.

A Tri-Bo wouldn't quite fit, but how about a Co-Bo-Co...

 

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and how about a Super Hymek, contrasted with a similar twin-Maybach prototype

 

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Perhaps it could be a BR Class 36 Diesel locomotive.

I'm mainly doing narrow gauge at the moment. I've still got plenty of things to convert, I just need to find the time.

Good luck with that. I did some freelance stuff in my time, once.

Niles? Hey, Niles! Where in the name of F. W. Webb have you been?

I have thought about modelling them but at the moment I'm happy with the branch line engines for now. I've still a lot more to do before I retire from the branch line and work on main line modelling. Don't know when that will be but for now I'm staying at Ffarquhar.

For me, Tidmouth - Knapford is what I'll be doing, and I hope you will someday.

Back to Garratts - As from 507003

 

" since the last picture was added I have since painted all the white areas on the loco. I used the 9F boiler as opposed to my other choice which was going to be an A3 boiler because my gresley A1/3 boilers are being used for projects to build the A3s as say a P2/3 as either a 2-8-2, 2-8-4, 4-8-2 or 4-8-4 loco"

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.Here is an update of the 2-10-0 + 0-10-2 for Birkenhead Docks - Gresford Bank /Wrexham  trials ?

Wow! Does it work?

I was always interested in trying it and as a pilot material thought I'd sit this one out given my experiences with HDA, but yeah the price doubled.

 

Well done Shapeways...

 

So forget it. No point paying FUD type prices for what is essentially WSF with the slightest upgrade that is barely noticeable by most people.

 

Shame really.

I agree with you, Knux. Besides, I'm already working on my own versions of the characters using whatever I could find.

Yes please

And here you go - just added the steps on the tender.

Once my layout is sorted, I'll work on the running session video.

Have you ever thought about the Mainline engines? I did and I have. So far, I have done about two or three of them.

I'm very interested in this subject. I'm looking to building Henry eventually with the flying kipper and some other wagons. How was James built?

The Bachman J11 was the ideal resemblance to the L&YR Class 28 Mogul Experiement (James' basis). Despite the variations on the wheels, I did a good job as most people tend to use the Bachmann Midland 3F as Hornby does with their own James model. It's super-detailed and loco-driven I intend to go for.

Sorry, I meant the modified RTR section. Workbench area doesn't have threads

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/176-modifying-detailing-rtr-stock/

Oh, right. I apologise.

Yeah I deleted my photobucket page when I saw what they had done and so I've moved to a different site to get my images shared. I'll get them fixed again when I get time.

ATM I've got a lot happening right now but I can provide you all with an update on how things are going for the layout.

Last week saw the layout moved to it's new home in my new workshop but some work will need to be done with it, mainly the track. there are some areas on my layout where the track curves quite tight. This was to try and keep it to a minimum radius of 18 inches but it seems to have gotten a bit tighter. Also the crossover tracks to the two baseboards have also have some issues which will need redoing again. So the main task to do it to lift the track and relay it again. I'll see how balsa wood does as a roadbed as I've heard some good reviews on it and use Javis scatters for the ballast.

This will have to be done over Christmas as the layout has been invited to take part in the North Down Model Railway Society's Exhibition in April next year as well as taking part in Cultra's show next November. Theres a lot of work to do so we'll see how we go. 

Why not just upload your pictures direct to here?

My word is my bond...

HEEEEERRRRRRRRRREEEEEE'S JAMES!

The first model to show is James which I recently completed this year.

Expect some photographs of some of the other engines and rolling stock, soon!

Sounds good, but should this not be in the workbench section rather than micro layouts and dioramas?

Thanks. I tried to create a post there, but for some reason, it wouldn't let me. Can't think why... Still, I'll be showing you some more engines I've already done. See how well the general shape is close to the LYR Class 28 base when I used the J11 for James?  Looks quite close.