Murican

I was thinking lately about the LNER P1 Mikados.

 

Was there ever a way there could have been a viable Mikado goods counterpart to the A3 Pacifics? Say such a thing happened, would the LMS also try Mikados for important fast freights?

 

I personally am sticking to the idea of a Gresly 4-8-0, but I thought it was worth discussing anyway.

4 hours ago, Corbs said:

Garratts never caught on in the US but this chap has made a 'what if' Pennsy Garratt which looks rather stunning. Admittedly it does use a taper boiler which isn't very Garratty but then again it's US loading gauge so nice and big. Love the styling on the water tank.

 

 

Oddly enough, I had previously thought of the idea for the Southern Railway (the American one) to use Garratts in their Rathole Division from Danville, Kentucky to Oakdale, Tennessee. In steam days that line was hard to upgrade and suffered from widning tunnels and light track - perfect stomping grounds for a Garratt.

I remember that Youtuber The Unlucky Tug based his James model off of the GCR 9J.

35 minutes ago, DenysW said:

LMS Garratts on the Lickey Bank. Well LMS had a chance to, and didn't. About the same tractive effort as the original Lickey Banker, much longer, and a generally bad fit with sheds across the network for coaling, watering, and ash dumping. LNER's Garratt was tried in the 1950s after the Worsborough Bank was electrified, and was not successful in the new duty. Same results, much more coal seems to have been the summary.

In that case, would a Meyer or Mallet worked better as a successor to Big Berta?

Here are my ideas for what the Gresley I1 (above) and the Peppercorn I2 (below) would look like. Taken from a book screenshot I found on the LNER site.

 

 

The same book apparently had the idea for an LNER 4-8-4.

Given what we've spoken about regarding the Gresley Mountains and Gresley P2s, what would have been possible names for a W2 4-6-4?

On the subject of the Lickey Incline, what if the LMS used its Garratt for use as the banker for said incline?

One of my personal pet projects is to review abandoned railroads in the United States, and speculate on what they might have been like had they survived as tourist or heritage railways.

 

In your opinions, what are some abandoned British lines that would have made decent, if not superb, heritage railways.

Another thing.

 

I was thinking in the world where my BR Standards exist, most if not all of these planned further examples exist: 

 

Of course I doubt there'd be as many Standard 5s as 111. However, I can definitely see said Standard 5s getting Caprotti Valve Gear.

6 hours ago, Murican said:

The Standard 10 4-8-4s resemble this 4-8-4 mock-up created by @Satan's Goldfish, but with the boiler of @Corbs take on the Stanier 4-8-4 and two other key differences. The tender is the eight-wheel BR4 Tender I made up. Whereas the drive wheels of my Standard 10s use the Bulleid Firth Brown design.

 

Actually come to think of it, the wheels on my 4-8-4 are a bit larger than in the picture shown. Specifically, they use 5ft 8in diameter drivers akin to those on the Standard 4 4-6-0 and 2-6-4T.

Thought I'd give some help to everyone trying to imagine what my BR Standards look like. Since I didn't have the technology or patience to crate CADs myself, I decided to link images that inspired my ideas.

 

The 3F 0-6-0T is basically the big-tanked version of this design shown here intially created by @Corbs.

 

The Standard 6 4-6-0s are basically just the Standard 5 frame that's been modified to accomodate a boiler based on those of the Jubilee 4-6-0s. However, the smoke deflectiors are based on those worn by the Britannias.

 

The 9P 4-6-4s modifies the boilers of the @Corbs take on the proposed Stanier 4-6-4 (see here for that and the Stanier 4-8-4). Then, it places said boiler on top of a modified Britannia frame and couples it up to my BR4 tender. The end result is fairly close to a 4-6-4 version of this locomotive.

 

The Standard 8 Pacifics are rather obviously just the Duke of Gloucester.

 

The 8MT 2-8-4 tanks are based on this idea from @Corbs.

 

The Standard 10 4-8-4s resemble this 4-8-4 mock-up created by @Satan's Goldfish, but with the boiler of @Corbs take on the Stanier 4-8-4 and two other key differences. The tender is the eight-wheel BR4 Tender I made up. Whereas the drive wheels of my Standard 10s use the Bulleid Firth Brown design.

 

P.S. Obviously, my take on the Stanier 4-8-4 would use the same eight-wheel tender as the one @Corbs 4-6-4.

1 minute ago, John Besley said:

Just a thought seeing as how Riddles was involved with the WD designs might a variation of the Austerity Tank been used along with Outside cylinders - from my own personal experience the Austerity is a very good loco for shunting and short trip work, while they are fine for branch line work as well from the firemans point of view you have to keep an eye on them all the time to keep on top of them with care you can keep them on the red line with out blowing off all day - great little engines 

That is a nice alternative.

8 hours ago, John Besley said:

We need to see some CAD designs of the "New BR Standards"....

Shame I don't have the kind of apps, much less patience, to do that.

 

Although I could try to do some drawings at some point in the future.

Now, the grand finale of my original trilogy, with the first prequel trilogy discussing pre-grouping designs at length.

 

"Each and every named engine of this class pays tribute to the very start of steam at the Ranhill Trials. Then it continues on to pay tribute to the engineers and workmen that contributed to the art of the steam engine. The many men and shops and companies that enabled the evolution of steam traction to the locomotives that honor them today."

- Prime Minister Winston Churchill at the naming ceremony for 96000 Ranhill.

 

"When you consider that the UK has become an exporter of excursion steam engines to the Continent, it really begs the question: Did we save TOO much steam engines? I think the answer to that can be analyzed only by looking at the Standard 10s." 

- Chris Eden-Green's Gauge The Issue Video "Did We Save Too Much?"; July 23, 2017

 

Standard 10 Class 4-8-4s

Power: 10F

Built: 1955 - 1960

Numbers: 96000 - 96104 (105 Locomotives Total)

As the Modernization Plan ended up in constant delays thanks to Churchill’s coalition, Robert Riddles took the opportunity to create what he thought would be the ultimate British mainline steam engine. To create said engine, Riddles took the Stanier 10MT’s original design, then fused it with elements of the lone BR Standard Class 8 Pacific “Duke of Gloucester”.

 

This locomotive started off as a 10MT on a Standard-style frame, but then incorporated principles used in France by Andre Chapelon’s SNCF steamers, as well as the GPCS and Twin Lempor exhaust systems created by Argentine Livio Dante Porta. Riddles also used the thermic syphons from the Southern’s Bulleid Mountains, and the Bullied Firth Brown pattern and roller bearings were also used for wheels to reduce weight.

 

When introduced, the locomotives were instant hits on BR’s freight duties, and even occasionally providing express passenger duties. In addition to said success, these locomotives enabled the retirement of many of the Stanier 8Fs and other classes of 2-8-0s outside the Western Region, which were worn out by wartime by this point. However, the other standards and a select few 0-6-0s continued to serve alongside the Standard 10s on smaller freights.

 

Further helping these locomotives be the last BR Standards in regular service was that they were perfect for BR’s new fleet of fast, long-distance container trains; which were the logical conclusion of the container trains the original Stanier 10MTs were built for. Although 9F 2-10-0s and 8MT tanks served on shorter wagon freights, the Standard 10s were the pride of said container trains. They were also tried out on coal trains along the Dover Main Line and on the Somerset and Dorset Joint Line, again with success.

 

A natural consequence of this was that when the Modernization Plan finally entered into law in 1960, the Standard 10s were among the last locomotives slated for withdrawal. Working alongside their Stanier counterparts, as well as Builleid and LNER Mountains and ten-coupled engines like the 9Fs until 1970 when they were the only ones left. As a result of this infamous longevity, ten of the bunch were preserved.

 

A whopping total of 72 locomotives in the class also got names that were meant to embrace and celebrate the history of British steam railways. The majority of said namesakes being key locomotive works, and locomotive designers. Those names being:

96000: Ranhill

96001: Gateshead

96002: C.J. Bowen-Cooke

96003: Henry Fowler

96004: Brighton - Cosmetic Restoration, Owned by Bluebell Railway

96005: G. J. Churchward

96006: Neilson

96007: R.E.L. Maunsell

96010: Crewe - Stored at LNWR Heritage Crewe

96011: Ashford

96013: Patrick Stirling - On Display at NRM Shildon

96014: George Hughes

96015: Stoke

96016: O.V.S. Bulleid

96017: Beyer Peacock - Under Restoration, Owned by Locomotive Services Limited

96020: John Aspinall

96021: Cowlairs

96023: Stratford

96024: H. A. Ivatt

96025: William Stroudley - Cosmetic Restoration for Display at Buckinghamshire Railway Centre

96026: Armstrong Whitworth

96027: J. H. Beattie

96030: St. Margaret's

96031: Dübs

96032: Longhedge

96033: Bury, Curtis And Kennedy

96036: William Adams

96039: Derby - On Display at Didcot, Owned by Icons of Steam

96041: John G. Robinson

96042: Edge Hill

96045: Dugald Drummond

96046: R. A. Riddles

96050: Hudswell Clarke

96052: Doncaster - Operational, Owned by North Yorkshire Moors Railway

96053: St. Rollox

96054: F.W. Webb

96057: Wolverhampton

96064: H.G. Ivatt

96065: Sharp Stewart

96066: Samuel Johnson

96069: Charles Fairburn

96073: Darlington

96075: Swindon - On Display at Didcot, Owned by Icons of Steam

96077: James Manson

96082: Wolverton

96083: Edward Bury

96084: Frederick Hawksworth

96085: Shildon

96088: Joseph Armstrong

96091: North British

96092: William Stroudley

96095: Horwich - Stored, Owned by GCR Heritage Comapny in Loughborough

96098: Nine Elms

96099: Gorton

96100: James Stirling

96101: Robert Urie

96102: H. A. Ivatt

96103: Eastleigh

96104: Stalwart - Operational, Owned by National Collection

1 minute ago, AlfaZagato said:

OK, no, keep her at IRM, then.   I hate what MSI did with Pioneer.   Outright shameful.

 

I've been told the big problem at IRM right now is pest control.   The South Shore 800 is apparently rotting inside-out due to racoons & skunks.  

 

Either way though, I'm starting to think the National Museum of Transportation in Kirkwood (a suburb of St. Louis for those who didn't know) would be a better home for 74000 Uncle Sam.

 

Yeah, the IRM of the Boyd-verse is also improved. Though seeing as the main subject is British engines, here's some itinerary on that: Alternate History.com detail of my alternate IRM

 

4 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said:

In regards to the BR Standards, or maybe backtracking earlier to grouping, what if the ROD commissioned a cut-down USRA Light Pacific or Light Mikado?   I'd imagine both designs are right up Riddles' alley.    I wanted to suggest the 2-6-6-2, but the rated TE is almost twice a 9F's...

Perhaps a Pershing boiler on a Pacific frame might work a slight bit better?

As long as we're talking war engines, I was thinking of having some S200s join S160s in freight traffic mainly on the Southern Region. In such as case, I'd have numbered the S200s as the 94000 and S160s as the 95000.

6 minutes ago, Murican said:

To be fair, I did envision it as a display piece only. I went to the IRM two summers ago, and I'd say they do a pretty good job of maintaning their display pieces as best they can. At least until a complete cosmetic restoration is affordable.

 

My first idea was to put Uncle Sam in the NRM at Green Bay, but the A4 Dwight D. Eisenhower was already there. Likewise, I had a fictional rail museum in Jersey City, but I already had the idea to put one of my Bulleid Merchant Navy Mountains there.

 

Perhaps a better location could be the National Museum of Transport near St. Louis.

OR, if I keep 74000 Uncle Sam displayed in the Chicago area, I instead could put it in the Museum of Science and Industry.

50 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said:

I think you put too much faith in the Illinois Railway Museum to suppose that they'd keep Uncle Sam.

To be fair, I did envision it as a display piece only. I went to the IRM two summers ago, and I'd say they do a pretty good job of maintaning their display pieces as best they can. At least until a complete cosmetic restoration is affordable.

 

My first idea was to put Uncle Sam in the NRM at Green Bay, but the A4 Dwight D. Eisenhower was already there. Likewise, I had a fictional rail museum in Jersey City, but I already had the idea to put one of my Bulleid Merchant Navy Mountains there.

 

Perhaps a better location could be the National Museum of Transport near St. Louis.

The last of my planned BR Standard classes will have to wait due to the sheer number I decided to name. In the meantime, here's some more managable content.

 

Again, Bold means a preserved engine. And most ideas here are derived from ideas I one saw on DeviantArt.

 

Standard 8 Class 4-6-2s

Power: 8P

Built: 1951 - 1954

Numbers: 71000 - 71020 (21 Locomotives Total)

After Riddles managed to overhaul Duke of Glosteceur into a legitimately good engine, the decision was made to build several more of the design for use on express duties. Mainly in order to enable the further retirement of non-standard types on The West Coast Main Line, and also freeing up the 9P 4-6-4s to work on other parts of the BR system.

 

71000: Duke of Gloucester

71001: Euston
71002: St. Pancras
71003: Paddington
71004: Cannon Street
71005: Blackfriars
71006: Waterloo
71007: Victoria
71008: Bristol Temple Meads
71009: Fenchurch Street
71010: London Bridge
71011: Marylebone
71012: Liverpool Street
71013: Charing Cross
71014: King's Cross
71015: Glasgow Central
71016: Waverly
71017: Queen Street
71018: Liverpool Central
71019: Lime Street
71020: South Parkway

 

8MT Class 2-8-4Ts

Power: 8MT

Built: 1952 - 1954

Numbers: 85000 - 85114 (115 Locomotives Total)

Due to the prevalence of the LMS 8Fs, USATC S160s, and similar engines, the 2-8-0 tender engine was never represented in the BR Standard range. However, Riddles still found that a 2-8-4T using the same boiler as a hypothetical 8F was perfect for heavy short-distance runs and secondary services. Using the same boiler as the Standard 5, Riddles set to work.

 

Sixteen 8MT tanks were originally built in 1952 at Swindon for use on former GWR territory in South Wales. They proved to be excellent successors to the eight-coupled GWR tanks of yore, and another 99 members of the 8MT tank class were built between 1952 and 1954 for use on other parts of the BR network. Being mainly freight locomotives, these locomotives saw especially frequent service on the Great Central Main Line from London to Manchester. In many cases they displaced the 8K Class 2-8-0s that had called the GCR home since the pre-grouping days. Additionally, 85012 was permanently assigned to the Lickey Incline when the famous "Big Berta" 0-10-0 was set aside for preservation. She even gained similar headlamps to her predecessors on both her front and back; making her vaguely resemble an engine from Australia.

 

Today, twelve of the class are still in existence. The most famous of these preserved engines, 85067 Paul McCartney, went to the Bluebell Railway and was painted into a livery based on the LBSC Stroudley Yellow and green in addition to its new name. This modification set a precedent for future preserved engines, and later another seven of the ten survivors were named after modern British musicians, with nine of them painted into different special paint schemes.

 

The named survivors are as follows:

85001: Pete Townshend - Under Restoration at Didcot Heritage Centre; Painted in GWR Brunswick Green.

85023: Freddie Mercury - Under Overhaul at Keleigh & Worth Valley; Painted in BR Corporate Blue with Yellow running boards.

85039: Mick Jagger - Pending Restoration at Mid-Hants; Painted in BR Black.

85042: Eric Clapton - Operational at the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway; Painted in LNER Apple Green.

85067: Paul McCartney - Owned by Bluebell Railway; Painted in Stroudley Yellow.

85077: Ozzy Ozbourne - Under Restoration at North Norfolk; Painted in LNER Garter Blue.

85089: Yusaf Islam - Under Overhaul at East Lancashire Railway; Painted in SECR Holly Green

85094: Peter Gabriel  - Owned by Somerst & Dorset Heritage Line; Painted in Midland Crimson.

85114: Elton John - Owned by Bo’ness and Kinneil; Painted in NBR Bronze Green.

 

Lastly, three un-named 8MTs have been preserved. Those being 85016, 85072, and 85102. All three are still painted in the classic BR Black like 85039, and are on display at the NRM Shildon (85016), Crewe Heritage Center (85072), and Bressingham Steam & Gardens (85102). The 85102 even kept the headlamps from her days on the Lickey Incline.

For the numbers of certain BR Standards, I chose to just use whichever numbers were not close to being used.

 

Hence, the 74000 for the Standard 6s and 79000 for standard 9Ps. As well as the 81000 number series for tank engines.

 

My next two standards will use the 85000 and 96000 series.

2 minutes ago, rockershovel said:

I find it hard to envisage. The 3MT 2-6-0 looks much to high-stepping and nose-heavy without its pony truck. The 2MT makes a more convincing 0-6-0 with its low running board. I take it you envisage a conventional side tank loco?

The 3F in this case is a side tank 0-6-0T. There are no changes to the 3MT and 2MT in my ideas.

 

Admitedly the 4-6-4 idea does stem from real-life proposals from Stanier.

7 minutes ago, John Besley said:

 

This is a section I've cut and pasted from a document I wrote around 25 years ago (was it rally that long ago...) when I was at the initial planning stage for 82045

 

Had anyone known at the time of nationalisation that in seven years’ time the whole course of steam locomotive development would be soon to end with the publication of the 1955 modernisation plan, it is doubtful if the BR Standards would ever have been built. At the time this could not have been foreseen, during the first few years some 1538 locomotives (B1’s Ivatt 2’ as well as Castles, Manors, and Bullied Pacific’s etc.) were built to the designs of the former companies. These orders were continued as to replace them would have resulted in a gap of new construction of about three years from planning to manufacturing.

Had an earlier plan been implemented then the complete replacement of all existing locomotives would have eventually taken place requiring some 17930 Standard types as set out below. Of all the Regions the Southern would have required less due to the high level of electrification. With an expected life of Forty years for the average steam engine one can only wonder what life would have been like in the 1970-80’s when full electrification was expected to have taken over. Ironically the only Standard type in the list to survive were the 350HP shunters now known as 08’s. As matters turned out the BR Standards finally totalled 999 with 92220 ‘Evening Star’ being the last built in 1960.

Region
Class    TYPE    E/NE    LMR    ScR    SR    WR    TOTAL
8P    4-6-2    130    45    5    30    30    240
7MT    4-6-2    190    90    30    20    200    530
6MT    4-6-2    230    200    70    110    -----    610
5MT    4-6-0    420    810    400    205    410    2245
4MT    4-6-0    420    165    270    25    130    1010
4MT    2-6-0    560    750    130    300    220    1960
3MT    2-6-0    320    550    550    140    120    1680
2MT    2-6-0    70    240    120    120    220    770
4MT    2-6-4T    300    510    190    85    250    1335
3MT    2-6-2T    320    200    30    70    1180    1800
2MT    2-6-2T    220    150    140    320    220    1050
9F    2-10-0    850    1200    80    10    520    2660
350HP    0-6-0DE    900    630    330    80    100    2040
TOTAL        4930    5540    2345    1515    3600    17930

Thanks for this.

Further thoughts on my (hopeful) definitive six-coupled standards?

Just now, rockershovel said:

The BR Standard 3F 0-6-0 sounds like an interesting beast

Something like it was proposed before the 08 made it pointless. Though of course things going a bit better for steam in the Boyd-verse enabled Riddles to build a small number of them.

First off are the six-coupled Standards that exist in my universe, including what's hopefully my definitie list of the 9P 4-6-4s. With the eight and ten-coupled ones coming in a bit.

 

Bold denotes a preserved member of the class.

Italics denote a planned, but unbuilt class member.

 

Standard 3F Class 0-6-0T

Power: 3F

Built: 1950 - 1951

Numbers: 81000 - 81015 (16 Total Locomotives)

This was a Standard engine that unfortunately came at a time where it was least needed. Intended as a shunter locomotive, the 3Fs, had they seen their full potential, would replace such iconic 0-6-0Ts as the LMS Jintys, Southern USA Dock Tanks, and GWR Panniers. An initial batch of 16 were built at Crewe in 1950 and 1951. These engines mainly derived their appearances from

 

Unfortunately, the Class 08 diesel shunter was introduced in 1952. As a result of the 08’s success, BR decided that shunters would be the first steam engines to go, and production of the 3Fs ceased. However, all of the 16 3Fs managed to soldier one for some time on various colliery and industrial routes. Today one, 81013, works on the North Norfolk Railway, while another two, 81001 and 81009 are on display.

 

Standard 6 Class 4-6-0

Power: 6P5F

Built: 1951 - 1954

Numbers: 74000 - 74024 (25 Total Locomotives)

The last of the three Standard 4-6-0s to be constructed, the 6MT was meant to haul slightly heavier and faster trains than the 5MTs - passenger expresses in particular. The 6MTs were derived from the LMS Jubilee’s boiler placed on a Standard 5MT frame. These locomotives were mainly intended to succeed 4-6-0s like the GWR Castles, LNER B12s and B17s, and various Southern designs on express passenger duties.

 

The idea to name the locomotives after American railroads was inspired by President Harry S. Truman’s 1951 visit to the UK alongside Churchill. These locomotives were destinct from other BR Standards due to their large, slanted smoke deflectors, which was where their nameplates usually were. As built the first ten members also had Franklin B Rotary Cam poppet valves, and the ones that maintained the poppet valves throughout their lives are denoted with an asterisk.

 

Sadly the finicky nature of poppet valves, combined with the 5MTs already being satisfactory, meant that only 20 of the 6Ps were built. This despite an order for another 10 being made at Crewe. Unlike their 4-6-2 counterparts from the Scottish Region however, a few of the Standard 6 4-6-0s managed to be preserved.

 

74000: Uncle Sam - On display at the National Museum of Transportation in Kirkwood, Missouri

74001: Pennsylvania*

74002: Union Pacific

74003: Great Northern Railway* - Word “Railway” used to avoid confusion with the LNER A1.

74004: Chesapeake & Ohio

74005: New Haven* - On Display at NRM York, only survivor with poppet valves.

74006: Atlantic Coast Line*

74007: Rio Grande

74008: New York Central - Owned by National Collection, On Display at NRM Shildon

74009: Milwaukee Road*

74010: Santa Fe - Operational, Owned by the Somerset & Dorest Heritage Railway in Highbridge

74011: Baltimore & Ohio

74012: Northern Pacific

74013: Southern Railroad - Word “Railroad” used to distinguish from UK’s Southern.

74014: Illinois Central - Owned by Locomotive Services Limited, Under Restoration
74015: Boston & Maine
74016: Burlington Route
74017: Southern Pacific - Owned by Midland Railway - Butterley, In Storage

74018: Louisville & Nashville

74019: Wabash

74020: Lackawanna

74021: Florida East Coast

74022: Norfolk & Western

74023: Rock Island

74024: Western Pacific

74025: Reading

74026: Missouri Pacific

74027: Delaware & Hudson

74028: Erie

74029: Seaboard Air Line

74030: Colorado & Southern

74031: Chicago NorthWestern

74032: Central of Georgia

74033: Kansas City Southern

74034: Lehigh Valley

 

9P Class 4-6-4

Power: 9P8F

Built: 1957 - 1960

Numbers: 79000 - 79042 (43 Locomotives Total)

When Stanier introduced his 9P “Admiral” 4-6-4s and 10MT “Empire” 4-8-4s for the LMS’ long-distance passenger and goods trains, the UK railway scene was truly blown away. That said, the pre-existing Princess Coronation class of Pacifics meant the Admirals were not as numerous as the 10MT, and only 15 "Admirals" were built compared to 35 “Empires”. 

 

Nonetheless, the Admirals were good enough to convince Robert Riddles to try and experiment with another 4-6-4 design for use on the entire BR network. Primarily being meant to replace the LNER Gresley/Peppercorn designs and Southern's Belleid designs on the fastest express trains, though in many cases the classes they were meant to replaced soldiered on in other duties until all the remaining non-standard steamers were retired in 1969. Initially the plan was to name the engines after various American railroads, but they instead opted to name the engines after various authors. In some cases, Standard 7 Britannia Pacifics were renamed to accommodate these engines.

 

79000: William Shakespeare - Preserved on display at NRM York.

79001: Geoferry Chaucer

79002: Frances Hodgson Burnett

79003: Arthur Conan Doyle

79004: H. G. Wells

79005: Mark Twain - The only 9P whose namesake was American.

79006: Charlotte Brontë

79007: George Eliot

79008: Bram Stoker - Pulled the last passenger train on the GCR Main Line. Preserved at GCR Heritage in Loughborough.

79009: Mary Shelley

79010: Rudyard Kipling

79011: John Milton

79012: Kenneth Grahame

79013: Robert Louis Stevenson

79014: Jane Austen - Owned by Locomotive Services Limited, Operational

79015: H. Rider Haggard

79016: Alfred Tennyson

79017: George Gissing

79018: Anthony Hope

79019: Lewis Caroll

79020: Joseph Conrad

79021: William Wordsworth

79022: Robert Burns

79023: Mary Elizabeth Braddon

79024: Charles Perrault

79025: Thomas Hardy

79025: Percy Bysshe Shelley

79026: Beatrix Potter - On Display at the Crewe Heritage Centre.

79027: Lord Byron

79028: T. S. Eliot - The first 9Ps whose namesakes was still alive at the time of construction.

79029: William Blake

79030: Hans Christian Anderson - The only 9P whose namesake was Danish.

79031: Evelyn Waugh

79032: Samuel Butler

79033: The Brothers Grimm - The only 9P whose namesakes were German.

79034: C. S. Lewis

79035: Jules Verne

79036: E. M. Forster

79037: Agatha Christie

79038: Wilfred Owen

79039: James M. Barrie

79040: Ian Fleming

79041: Wilbert Awdry

79042: A. A. Milne

79043: Francis Bacon

79044: J. R. R. Tolkein - Last Express Passenger locomotive built in the UK; Operational with West Coast Railways.

Decided to ggive my ideas so far for which BR Standards I should still create for the Boyd-verse. Part of this includes another DeciantArt inspired idea where Chruchill is still PM from 1955 - 1959, and gives the order to continue BR's Standards program until enough satisfactory diesels can be created. Further helping is negotiation with trade unions in coal areas. As a result of these factors steam soldiers one just a few years more until the mid to late 70s.

 

Before I start though, he's a new tender for my universe:

 

The BR4

Created as a way to reduce the need for fuel and water stops for larger engines. These tenders took the body of the classic BR1 tender, but then extended it to fit on the chassis of the four-axle WD Austerity tenders. That said, the tender chassis was modified to fit in more with the pre-existing BR tender design.

 

The design of the tender was inspired by those used on the LMS Stanier 9P and 10MT engines from the 1930s and 1940s. Which is fitting seeing as the Standard 9P and 10 engines were built as successors to them.

 

These tenders were used mainly on the 9P 4-6-4s and the Standard 10 4-8-4s when they were introduced. However, they eventually also saw use on the last Standard 5 and 9F 2-10-0s to be built.