Mark Saunders

No, most were scrapped at the end of the spoil contract, some were retained by NIR and used until replaced by more recent ballast wagons in the mid 1980s. None remain now.

 

Colm

Shame they would make nice models!

Mark Saunders

Do any of these still exist?

Mark Saunders

Basic drawings for these tanks (along with countless others) appear here; http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html courtesy of Barrowmore MRG.

 

 

Please remember that these are "Diagram books" for loading rather than drawings for modelling from, please take care if using for modelling purposes.

Some are better than others!

Mark Saunders

Two major ones are:-

The Shell Refinery at Teesport, the Junction is still called Shell junction and the bridge over the Wilton branch still bears the Shell logo.

Leeds Oil Rail Terminal on the Hunslett East branch from Neville Hill.

Other ones are:-

Killingholme Admiralty oil wharfe near Immingham, it was vintage with brick built storage tanks.

Greetland junction.

Appleby's at Harrogate and Scarborough, these were supplied by a block train from Stanlow that ran to York with it splitting in three portions, one for Harrogate, one for Scarborough and Heavy Fuel oil for Cleveland Potash at Boulby (another lost terminal).

Various terminals in the former ICI plant at Wilton.

Mark Saunders

Is that one of the ore branch ones?! Where is that preserved?!

It was a BR standard and was orriginally at Cottesmore but I understand it is now on the Nene Valley

Mark Saunders

The NCB Ashington system had a small fleet at the end of which several are preserved!

Also NCB at Westoe had a van along with Burradon.

British Steel also had two at Scunthorpe of which one is preserved.

Mark Saunders

Rumour machine on Teesside says to expect SSI to obtain GM's similar to these for Redcar/Lackenby?

Mark Saunders

Am I right in thinking, that there's a pipe mill in Hartlepool? Would it have taken steel from Redcar?

Hartlepool has two mills and used to recieve coil eye to sky on endless BBA's from Lackenby prior to the closure of the coil mill there.

After that it recieved coil on BCA, BLA and BZA (recoded BAA with gunshot cradles)from South Wales.

It seems to have accepted wide steel plate on BMA/BNA for quite some time but I am not sure if it is a regular traffic?

Mark Saunders

A note on internal ballast wagons at Tata ex BSC Scunthorpe

Last September I saw no ex Grant Rail ballast hoppers either Walrus or Procor PGA but there were two Sealion present!

I suspect it is since Grant Rail became wholly owned by Volker (hence the rebranding on their track machines).

Mark Saunders

If you have a problem with published data them get yourself along to a real example with your tape measure.

There are several preserved!

Mark Saunders

I had a look at my very early copy of 'Baker' to see if there was anywhere in Essex that might have taken alumina from Burntisland, but there was nothing really obvious. Two possibilities come to mind:-

Might it have been used in the manufacture of high-alumina cement, in which case the cement plants around Thurrock and Greys could be a destination?

Could it have been intended for Norton Abrasives at Welwyn Garden City? Not Essex, I know, but relatively close.

Lafarge at Grays may have been the customer, they were still taking alumina by road in the late 80's/ early 90's.

Mark Saunders

The old Aifix kit is quite good for it's age but really needs updating, the Solebar and brake lever are poor but it can be tarted up!

Mark Saunders

not sure if you meant the Airfix RTR 20t tank which is a class A see attached, ex iu Grangemouth.

Mark Saunders

From memory the overhead appears very similar to tram wires and I read somewhere that the South Shields corperation tram wires were acquired by the NCB for the system after the demise of the corperation trams.

Mark Saunders

I was sent this today, it was Green and had a part repaint!

Hattons have changed the description of the BSC one.

Mark Saunders

Hattons have announced one in British Steel Blue livery has any one seen this livery?

Mark Saunders

For those thinking of buying at Hattons note the price of these go up next week unless ordered before the price rises!

Mark Saunders

As a matter of interest Barry, do you know if the BSCO 40xx were originally Dia 1/420, and possibly visited SRW for modification, or just a "knock off" of the BR Ashford design ?

The SRW built ones appear to be a copy of the BR diagram, however I am not sure about the stanchions!

Mark Saunders