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Totally agreed.

Very obvious in the higher performance R/C car/truck motors when raising the gearing to get higher speeds.

If 'cogging' is obvious, you drop the gearing down until it's smoother.

That's why I've regularly mentioned 'feeling for heat' with intention to abort - it's obviously not good practice.

Al.

I didn't feel any overheating transmitted, not sense any smells ... here's 4 minutes' worth with 'more steady cam' ... even slower I think!!

That's my lot now, for the same reasons you mentioned - I think I can call it a day!!

Here's Hattons' Patriot as well!!

Al.

I've just re-run the video with the 'over-sensitive' sound settings of the works laptop - I see / hear what you mean - it sounds like a visit to the local barber's!!

It really was nowhere near that loud, as similarly, I'm not that much of a heavy breather!!

Must be the 'phone being very sensitive and compensating for the quiet of the garage!!

Al.

I always find with 'super slow' operation that there's a distant 'buzzing - whether it's a Dapol 68, Bachmann 25 or 47, Hornby 56, 60 or 'Kettle'.

I thought you were referring to my wobbly holding of the camera!!

The buzzing wasn't as loud on the steam locomotives - which at normal speeds are as mentioned, near-silent - as I've noticed with Bachmann 3-poles and most diesels - those which are all-wheel-driven with central motor with dogbones in particular.

It's always preferred NEVER to run very slowly with R/C vehicles, which generally have high current draw, high-powered, higher revving motors, but strangely using the 'prepare for the fumes of doom' caution normally associated with R/C, I just don't get that impression with the higher torque (relatively), lower performance locomotive motors.

That P2 motor is actually particularly quiet, and with rotations >1 Hz, it really is quiet - as are my Royal Scot, DoS and Lizzie.

Al.

If year end is 31st March, does that mean that Q2 is July to September instead of April to June?  

Al.

As you say, early days.

We'll see something else, perhaps around July time ... that's a LONG way off !!

Al.

Double Kylchap chimney / blastpipe for the the early W1 then.

I prefer this, but some don't.

Al.

Aren't there any suitable 'cranked' couplings - which would resolve this height issue?

Al.

Come on, it's not that bad!!

Family's out this evening, so may have a static-placed shoot and present - may even run the Hattons' 66 which kicked this off to start with ... !!

In reference to the earlier posting of the 8F, I tried with mine, and it was totally as expected - very smooth.

Al.

Totally agreed, with the above comments.

That 08 with 3k tons - very impressive.

For modelling it only needs to be able to start off a little slowly / smoothly for a few inches, then start speeding up.

The P2 was just to show how much better it is with a decent motor in it.

Al.

Just to add to the original 'slow running' thread.

The TTS CotN is renowned for a few corners cut here and there; most notably the poorer quality motor cf the general impression of it being a higher grade Hornby locomotive.

Many YT videos will show 'stock' locomotives have a problem pulling away initially.

One of the first things I did upon receipt was to change the motor to a 5-pole.

Initially I received what was supposed to be a X9108 King skew wound 5-pole, except it just didn't perform as I know the top spec Kings can. Smooth it is / was, but top end was as anaemic as the stock CotN 3-pole ... so I went 'browsing'.

I noticed the 5-pole I'd been sent had a black can, but the brush /commutator end cap was mid-grey, not dark-grey/black as the best-performing 5-poles seem to be.

There's no mention that X6199 should fit, but it looked right, and sure enough - as you see it is. Top end is way better as well - win, win as they say!!

Al.

I'd say the '5' is thicker than the first '6' ... or basically it's a matter of perspective ...

Making allowances for distance - pretty long locomotive, I'd say that photo's inconclusive at best, and no difference at worst.

Al.

Can you do this with your R3246 TTS?

It's powered very lightly by a HM2000 on DC only.

Wobbly cam time - actually left it for 5 minutes and it never stopped or hesitated once, travelling only halfway along the flexitrack.

Yes, I've 'lightly smoked' along the top of the locomotive as well - taken that false shine off it - and fitted a silver painted 3-link to the front, and a crew.

Al.

How could you get inside to fire it up and drive it?

Reckon the body would bend as well when picking it up!!

44 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said:

Several years ago, I was taught at work that regional managers would always find something wrong when doing their visit/inspection. If it was not something obvious, they would get fussy.

I feel some are this way when scrutinising models.

Are you saying that Hattons may have made the text deliberately too wide to distract the punter from looking at the dimensions, chassis and ... rotating axleboxes?  !!

Al.

Good choice.

I've ended up selling my Railroad, then getting the TTS version, changing the motor (of course, for those who know!), and giving a light spattering of 'soot' over the top.

Can't wait until the W1 finally comes out, then having the 2 alongside each other .... !!

Al.

Say it's a Heritage line, and the turntable had to be decommissioned 50 years ago ...

Al.

I did get a reply from Dapol ... a couple of days ago.

Andy mentioned there had been a couple of issues, but that the liveries had been amended ... finishing with the bottom line:

There will be a full update once we have production and delivery forecasts.

Al.

I like his personal favourite - and totally agree!!

Al.

Hattons had been pretty close on this one - Christmas delivery for the initial batch.

I think we may suspect that additional measures may be in progress to avoid a repeat of the 'axlebox issue' which may have delayed the second batch - could be wrong.

It does appear that they are ensuring the best possible model - which it most definitely is.

The difference is not like comparing the Hornby Princess of the 60's with that of today, but there are obvious improvements over the Bachmann visually - hence why I sold mine.

Al.

After the rebuild, they were said to be both vastly superior to the original design, yet still remained 'restricted', with the increased-size cylinder valves being too small ...

Sounds like in whichever form, it could have been a lot more than it was ... pity!!

Al.

Are we going back to the Hattons 66 comments, and railway 'modellers'? !!

I totally understand your comments Truffy, which are unfortunate.

What's difficult about lining up a painting / photograph on the wall? ...

Al.

There's a slight typo somewhere ...

The Flying Dustman is 66-032, not listed as delayed above, but IS LISTED as delayed on the Hattons website.

It should possibly read 'affecting those ending -032 to -037'.

Al.

I was hoping that the nameplates would be included separately, and without the risk of the 'tampo printed' ones being on the locomotive - thus a 2-in-one.

This would give options and save production costs.

I was erring towards the named one, hoping for separate plates, but decided on an 'original', and have contact Fox to see what they can do - both British Enterprise and Pegasus.

Al.

2 hours ago, JSpencer said:

 

 

Personally, I have nothing against the double chimney as I built my kit version with it which is a great runner as long as it does not meet anything less than 3ft radius! Just that if I get a second W1, I would prefer her with a single chimney.

 

I can understand in that respect, just that with a single chimney, it's like the Duchess of Atholl - the single makes it look anaemic in comparison to the beefy double. Much prefer the latter.

Al.