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Like 70000 Britannia?

If/when Hornby model it, there are scale Westinghouse pumps.

I fitted one to the front of my Hornby Britannia.

Al.

Delay's fine by me - should receive for my birthday - good timing then!!

Gives you time to get the 4 fans working and the fan-assisted smoke generators for the exhausts!!

Opening doors as well - and don't forget a driver who waves each time he passes a power supply!!

Joking aside, I remember seeing one in Lime Street in the late 70's - when the HST was moving into the ECML I presume. Quite a dramatic departure on the trans-Pennine, and probably one of the fastest!!

Al.

I suppose as time went on, designers were looking at axle loading permitted versus tractive effort / acceleration out of stations to try and speed throughput.

Never looked at County Class locos the same way I do Castles TBH - just don't look as impressive.

Al.

Good information.

Wasn't the Bulleid boxpok design said to be lighter - less inertia / momentum when running?

As you say, the tyres may have been a limiting factor.

I've read the same regarding the 6' 2" wheels - dimension applies to Blue Peter and Bulleids as well as Brits I suppose so we must have read the same book somewhere - I did have a fair amount of OS Nock in my distant past!!

I would be more concerned of piston speeds for the reciprocating gear - and 'breathing'.

Wonder what Coronation would have reached then .... ???   !!!

We're all allowed to 'let's suppose' once in a while.

Al.

I think the 6' 9" Duchess wheels were there allowing for the greater power the larger locomotive (boiler and steaming capacity) - cf Princess - would make and with a consideration for continual high-speed operation.

When you look at the 6' 2" wheels of some Standard and Bulleid Pacifics filmed at c.100 mph, they are spinning quite quickly!!

For a cross-reference, we've all heard of the occasional times 9F's, particularly Evening Star are supposed to have hit 90 mph with their 5' 0" drivers, and survived!!

My money's on more-than-adequate power and considerations for longevity.

Al.

Thanks and understood.

Would the higher pressure of the smaller diameter pistons / cylinders mean a higher tractive effort ... and any calculations on what that would be?

Thanks,

Al.

Sounds about right - would have been a 'beast' certainly ...

Wonder what pressure PoW will be designed to operate at - order's just gone in to a German boilermaker this last week I think?

An increase would certainly mean 'Britain's most powerful XP steam locomotive' surely?  9P?

Al.

I must admit I'm warming to it a bit - always preferred 'the British way' of hiding everything under the air-smoothed casing but it does have a certain je ne sais quoi about it - could be all of the detailing and 8 coupled drivers ...

Cylinders are pretty big but appear well positioned to not block bogie movement.

Al.

But .... the original looked better!!

Sorry guys, I prefer the original iteration - good choice for PoW 2007.

Wonder what Peppercorn would have done with a 2-8-2 - bound to have looked pretty decent as well!!

Al.

Commitment to detail is excellent, and I would hazard it's courtesy of the ever-increasingly competitive market, with so many smaller companies adding highly detailed 'options' to the marketplace.

Al.

It gives a perfect opportunity to have an excellent replica of 'the real thing' for a much more reasonable price, I agree.

It's one of those Porsche Boxster situations .... you know, perfectly excellent sports car but everyone will say 'only purchased as couldn't afford "the real one"'.

I've a Virgin R3390 which is fantastic - seemingly purchased at the right time, before pricing when silly - so personally I wouldn't.

My loss, but the shaft-driven 8WD is fantastic ...

Saying that I've no problems with the single bogie on my Pendolino so it would be a 'whim purchase' ...

If you like it, and have other, more pertinent purchases you need to make - house maintenance for one - then go for it!!

Al.

Thanks to everyone.

Eyes are peeled.

Common sense prevails of course.

I don't have the 'dark art' of invisible renumbering, but will do one day - thing is, TPE 68 issued was only one, unlike the 5 or 6 DRS ones, that's the problem.

I've no problem with Brutus should I locate and purchase one.

Time will tell ...

Al.

They need to understand WHY this happened ...

I'm fairly certain it wouldn't have been the same if Accurascale hadn't announced the TPE Mk.5 coach packs ...

But, as a result of this, the Dapol TPE 68 - the only one they made - cannot be found for sensible money.

I sincerely hope they review and revise their considerations.

Al.

Always liked the 25's (and of course the 47's).

Something 'right' about the balance of design and function.

This looks a really nice model .... would really like to change to 'O Gauge' ... perhaps one day.

There's quite a choice nowadays.

Al.

I think that sounds like a 'donor' locomotive or somebody with a VERY GOOD 3-D printer - and some very careful 'sanding' afterwards.

Al.

Lizzies and Duchesses are 2 favourites of mine as well.

Not as far back on the Lizzie, 'though better explained in the last post with the cylinder size, which just looks better.

I think Gresley got it right initially, then the kitchen had too many cooks in it.

Saying that, Peppercorn wasn't that wrong in design - I've 'Blue Peter' on display at the moment - another favourite of mine.

Al.

Hi John, that's very unfortunate, as is the whole scenario.

It is a logical response by the retailer / manufacturer I suppose.

There are many who are competant, many highly skilled, a good few 'learning the trade', but I'm sure there are also those 'have a go heroes' who're always a disaster waiting to happen.

Their response will be to circumvent this - not knowing your skills or generally appreciating your exceptional location.

I hope you get yours sorted out and to a standard you can accept and appreciate.

Al.

I think the magic touch required is patience and persistence in your searches ... 

It all depends which parts of course.

I've been after brake rods for Hornby rebuilt MN's and they've appeared at a sensible price - thanks to Clive of AC Models ...

There have been other parts which just aren't appearing anywhere, but just keep looking ..  never know!!

Glad the buffer turned up - had similar experiences in my garage when 'parts have pinged'.

Al.

The only place the Thomson one looks 'wrong', apart from dropping a pair of drivers, is the cylinders are too far back for visual 'balance' IMHO.

Otherwise, it's growing on me somehow!!

I still prefer 'the original'.

Al.

Would they even be 'hand assembled'?

Small robots and a production line possibly?

Somebody stuffed up the torque setting?

Al.

Name and number change perhaps?

2007.

Al.

Great selection of 'early production' diesel by Kernow and nice-looking model ... 

Can't decide which variant I like.

Black and silver is the most famous one for me, as a lad reading as many railway books as I could find, but the Royal Scot scheme looks quite nice as well ....

Al.

I admit the finish can be impressive on some of the older ones - Cadbury Castle for example - but I much prefer the extra detailing and SUPER-smooth operation of the newtool Castles - very impressive machines, like the real articles.

I really hated the horrible plastic-gear-rattly noise of the ringfield motors as well - once warmed up, they seemed to go quite well, but once you run a newtool one alongside there's no contest - for me anyway.

Al.

Still not a fan of the name ....

I suppose it's a bit of a conversation opener .... then killer - literally!!

Al.

I was being polite!!

When I received my Virgin 43 power/dummy I'd purchased a few 'shorties' before I knew of 'the dilemma', then soon sold on and purchased the 'correct length'.

Al.