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Thanks for the info Nile, something new I’ve learnt.
It may be possible to remove the two extra lamp irons, the next task would be how to hide the holes and how to blend it all in.
As for the loco, there’s a high chance I will run it with the other SE&CR green locos.
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On 08/07/2021 at 21:20, Graham_Muz said:
I would have expected it to have four lamp irons front and back in SECR days.
I don’t have a date for 726 gaining the grey livery but would have been post 1915.
She was painted in SR olive in October 1924.Thanks Graham, that’s a great help. It’s given me food for thought and will certainly come in handy.
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A question regarding the SE&CR grey version no: 726, regarding the lamp irons, there are six at the front and only four at the back.
Was this prototypical? It just looks odd, I could understand, four at the front and four at the back.
or six at the front and six at the back.
A couple of things to ask as well, when was this loco painted into SECR grey?
When was was it painted into Southern Railway livery?
Many thanks for your help.
Callum
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I’ve seen those photos before on that website, “Tweedmouth” now there’s an idea for a layout.
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Thanks for the info Jason, the photos have given me food for thought.
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All three SE&CR versions are now here.
Having received the 2nd replacement from Locomotion Models yesterday and having received my grey version today.
I’m well chuffed, despite their niggles, these are lovely.
I originally ordered all three versions, I cancelled the grey version and then decided a couple of days ago I should get it.
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On 24/06/2021 at 18:45, Tim said:
For anyone wishing to bite the bullet and do a complete repaint and lining job, these images may be of help....
Phoenix Precision post-54 Green and HMRS loco lining. I feel it really is worth the effort and the model reduces very easily into its component parts with very little ado, making the job less of a pain to mask up.
Wow Tim! What a transformation, full credit to you, it just shows what can be done with the Hornby Loco.
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1 hour ago, Cofga said:
Looks to be a good runner, with 6 coaches on the flat. Have you had a chance to challenge it on a grade? Oh, I just noted your comment about the traction tyres. Does the loco come with another set of drivers without the traction tyres?
Hi Cofga, I've just done a haulage test with no: 488 and can confirm it can pull 9 SE&CR Bachmann birdcage coaches from the bottom of a 2% gradient start, followed by Hornby 2nd radius curves.
There is some wheel slippage, but once it has momenton its fine and I've replaced the traction tyre set with the metal wheel set.
I've also fitted no: 19 kadees
Overall I'm very pleased with the model only arriving yesterday and just can't believe how good it is.
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SE&CR no: 488, is on its way, not long now.
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Oliver, these are looking fantastic, really looking forward to both the SE&CR green ones.
Thanks for keeping us updated, could I ask what are in the optional extra details (the accessory pack)?
Callum
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On 28/03/2020 at 13:55, robertcwp said:
Although there is a small error in that the Hornby 6224 Princess Alexandra is not suitable for the Coronation Scot as it has a double chimney, not fitted to the real thing until early in WW2, by which time the Coronation Scot had ceased running.
Hi Robert I have the Hornby 6224 double chimney (the one that came out a year or so ago). Do you know which LMS rolling stock would be suitable for her to haul?
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You'll also be pleased to know out of 9 ice block packaging boxes, I've managed to modify/edit 7, bit of trial and error is needed, but it can be done
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Sadly not, due to being restricted to 2nd radius curves for the time being, thr trailing bogie (under the cab) hangs to far over the rails and this would most likely cause the loco to derail.
However at some point in future I will be fitting it, I think as far as I know it can only be used on 3rd Radius or above and with medium/long streamline points? It doesn't appear to slide left and right it just sits in the cradle for the authentic appearence.
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Cheers Al, thanks for letting me know, I see what you mean, I might do some more experimenting.
No Decorum, it sounds as if the ice block packaging may need modifying (I will have make a hole in each end, file it to create a smoothe edge and then try and if I can get the packaging to shut tight once more).
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On 10/05/2021 at 08:22, No Decorum said:
I’m talking about the large holes on the nose just above the stripes, where the handles for opening the doors are inserted. They have been mentioned quite a lot and rather spoil the appearance of the front.
I see what you mean now No Decorum, regarding the front handles on the smoke box door. I took some photos last night and I don't think they look too bad, I suppose the holes could have a smaller diameter, but would reauire some extra work. (A step too far for me).
Was it the same on the previous tooling locos?
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On 09/05/2021 at 22:53, atom3624 said:
I noticed the cam effect of the couplings around curves - at least they're not too close!!
Al.
Ah Al, that was one of my concerns, I heard of buffer locking, regarding with experiments of Kadees. I have too admit the Coronation Scot coaches on a long straight peice of track do look reasonably close and I'm happy to accept this (bear in mind these are now fitted with the extended door ends and the close couplings for fixed rakes that come in the accessory pack).
As for the curve, they are on Hornby 2nd radius, I've got some spare 3rd and 4th radius track to hand, so will see how they look on them.
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Well folks, I've just done the trial and error with the suitable LMS steam locos and the following failed:
Bachmann LMS Jinty
Bachmann Midland 3F (LMS livery)
Hornby 3F S&DJR livery
Hornby 5mt "Black 5".
Only "Coronation" could set off from the bottom of the gradient and keep going.
I know it may not be accurate, but I may as well get "Coronation" to be the "Coronation Scot" train's pilot as well as the express.
Its a compromise I can live with.
I'm also pleased with the close couplings and the extended corrodor connectors, creates a more acceptable gap when on a straight line.
Not sure about the cornering though?
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On 08/05/2021 at 13:31, No Decorum said:
When the last of my coaches arrive, I’ll tow them with my ancient, shortie, tender driven Coronation. If Hornby sorts out the machine gun holes and brings the stripes to a point, I’ll get the new one. Whilst Hornby is working on those two points if it does, it wouldn’t come amiss to add a short tender drawbar which fits and provide flangeways for the trailing wheels.
No Decorum, you mentioned the machine gun holes, do you mean the two front holes between the buffers?
If so, that for the steps that come in the detail pack, hope that helps.
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Locomotion & Rails of Sheffield announce SE&CR D Class
in Rails of Sheffield
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Spelling error
No: 488 and it’s detailed cab,
plus Bachmann C class no: 583, Hornby H class no: 308 and Hattons P class no: 27.