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The PPM is 16 10 years too late for me, but I thought it would be useful to highlight the size. Regarding industrial or prototype locos I have decided to turn the New North Main Line into a preserved railway, so just about anything could have ended up running there if it were available. The metro idea is interesting - perhaps it could be an experimental loco suitable for both London Underground and main line use. Does anyone know the rough size of tube vehicles? I know they had some electric locos for shunting, such as L11, but have no idea whether they were as long as regular carriages or not.

There wasn't - it was an extratropical cyclone with hurricane-force winds! Is it still called rivet counting when discussing the weather?

Hi all. I am contemplating the long term future of an Underground Ernie train (Jubilee, for those who are interested). The dimensions are very small (I recall reading that it was built in H0 scale, though whether this is true or not I have no idea - the prototype is fictional after all. These are, if I have copied everything correctly: - Bogie wheelbase 24mm (1824mm) - Bogie centre to centre 69mm (5244mm) - Total wheelbase 93mm (7068mm) - Wheel diameter 10.5mm (798mm) The smallest BR Bo-Bo that I can find is the Class 16, which has a wheelbase of 8.69m according to Wikipedia. Are there any similar (or even smaller) UK based designs that people can think of? It doesn't have to be spot on (as a First Attempt In Learning the body will be far from spot on) but If there is a suitable design to attempt I would be interested to know about it. Any suggestions for MU prototypes are also welcome as I have the trailer car, although as the chassis is shorter than a Parry People Mover I doubt that these exist. Otherwise, it'll be a Type 1 loco inspired by the class 16. This is probably a couple of years off as I have quite a bit to do first, but I'm trying to create a clear roadmap and would like to get some initial ideas for projects like this as early as possible. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

The lines to the North use AC. If they used the same system in Berkshire, any working class ruffian could go down there. They'll be nicking the wheels from the trains!

As I may be getting closer to actually carrying out the work, can anybody reccomend the best way to remove the decals from this model without causing damage? I have read that different methods work better on different models, so is anybody able to make a reccomendation regarding Hornby locos of this era?

I think this is a good point. Although I haven't personally seen a model shop close locally, I know that they have in many areas. We can't really help the changing nature of retail (it would take a wholesale cultural shift). Perhaps including a link to RMweb with all instruction booklets (cheaper than providing decent instruction booklets) would help. Hornby could of course provide clear directions to their own forum, but they need to make it a little more user-friendly first (I don't struggle but many others seem to, and of course all photos must be moderated before they can be displayed) or that will also put people off. As for the racism/sexism/ageism debate, maybe we could either drop it or find a more appropriate venue before it gets even more toxic than it already is.

On the one hand, I can see the connection between model making and propensity to engage in DIY (each develops skills and increases the availablity of materials that can help with the other). On the other hand... Let's just say that the hyposthesis is a strong one in case going any further derails this discussion. Would you say that more detailed instructions could help with this, or would it require something else, such as more focus on DT in schools?

Thank you very much. It wasn't missing but it was disconnected. The loco is working perfectly now,

I have recently bought a Hornby Class 56 (56108 in Railfreight Grey) from Rails of Sheffield. I have set it up inn RailMaster and it is working well, other than one problem. It has absolutely no grip! I am trying to drive it light loco on a level track. The wheels spin around a lot, but the locomotive barely moves. This occurs at all speeds and both directions. I have put some coaches behind, just in case it altered the weight distribution somehow but as expected this only makes the issue worse. I am very surprised since it feels like a brick to pick up, and is far heavier than other locos which have no problems with traction on the same track. Thank you in advance for any suggestions about what might be causing this or how it might be resolved.

Thank you - it's off now.

How do you remove the screws in order to release the body? Even when the bogie is rotated all of the way to one side and the screw pressed against the opposite side of the hole, the screw will not get past the bogie. Is there a way to resolve this, such as removing the side of the bogie? Otherwise, Hornby have produced a wonderful DCC ready model with no way of inserting a decoder. Thanks in advance for the help. EDIT: I've just found that at one end, the screws are located closer to the centre of the bogie, and can be removed, whereas on the other they are located further away from the end of the model, and so get caught on the side of the bogie.

Thanks very much everybody. With some work I might be able to make a few of these wgons look more appropriate. Very helpful.

Thanks for the information about the brake vans. The Minera Lime wagon is a 5 plank wagon of some sort. My understanding is that this would be wrong for a lime wagon, as these had roofs on them (and when searching for 'Minera Lime wagon' this is what most models depict). However, Wikipedia states that: 'The quarries had their own steam locomotive and hundred [sic] of open coal wagons and closed lime wagons at its peak. Hornby Railways and Dapol both have model wagons detailing the Minera Lime Co. It also had extensive kilns, still there to this day. The works closed in 1972 and the Wrexham and Minera Branch railway lines were pulled up at around the same time.' Therefore, I am assuming that the model is a coal wagon (most likely a generic model). Therefore, the question is whether 5 plank coal wagons would have remained in use at the limeworks until the very end (whether similar wagons outlasted them in other places), or whether they had been replaced before that point. Swansea is a 7 plank wagon with a door in the centre of each side. Bolsover is a metal wagon with two doors on each side belonging to Thoresby Colliery. This colliery was the last in Nottinghamshire, closing in 2015. It may have been using the railway into the 21st Century. The livery applied appears to have been from the grouping era (L&NE RL presumably being London and North Eastern Railway) but I don't know how long this livery, or wagons similar to the model, may have survived. Regarding the completely fictional wagons, I was expecting there to be a lot of generic wagons, but they must be about the right shape and size that they could if you squint while taking hallucogenic drugs vaguely resemble one particular type of wagon more than another (though not neccesarily in Kellogs livery).

I wasn't really sure where to put this. On the one hand, I'm looking for some prototype information, on the other, I'm starting from models and working backward, which didn't really seem to fit with the Prototype Questions forum. I have a collection of wagons, from various sources. Unless otherwise stated, I need the following info: 1) What type of wagon is it (or should it be) a model of? For generic wagons, what wagon does it most closely resemble? 2) When were these wagons introduced, if this was later than the end of steam? I doubt that any of them were, but I have included the question just in case. 3) When were they withdrawn (and, if different, roughly when did the livery depicted become obsolete)? As there are quite a few, I decided that a video would be easier to post than individual photos, so here they are being hauled by an A4 (this is my best low speed runner, so easiest to film). The wagons are: 1) Birds eye livery, made in England by G&R Wrenn Ltd. 2) Kellogs livery, made in England, probably by Hornby 3) McVitie's livery, made in England by Hornby 4) Sheaf materials livery, made in China by Hornby 5) Shell livery, made in England by Hornby 6) Laugharne Morgan livery, made in China by Hornby 7) Bolsover livery, made in England by Hornby 8) Minera Lime livery, made in England 9) Great Western liveried Macaw B (Q1) made in Italy by Lima 10) BR grey liveried Bogie Bolster A (Q1) made by Hornby at a top secret location. This seems to be ex-LNER, despite coming in a set with a 0-6-0 PT in GWR livery. Can anybody confirm this? 12) BR bauxite liveried Lowmac (Q1) made in China by Hornby 13) Smith's livery, made in Great Britain by Hornby. This probably had a roof in the past. 14 and 15) BR standard brake vans, I believe (Q1). Black roof made in China, white roof in Great Britain, both by Hornby. What would the difference between the roof colours signify? I assume that these lasted for as long as brake vans were required. (Q3) Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide. For some of the wagons (namely the Lowmac and bogie bolsters) I imagine that I would be able to obtain the information required with a little bit of digging, but have included them here in case anybody knows off the top of their head. However, as I don't know what over 50% of the wagons are (and can't find this infromation) I don't even have a starting point for the vans, open wagons, and tanker.

I've been able to find plenty of photos of the outsides of Travellers-Fare restaurants, but I am struggling to find any of the interiors. Searches such as 'travellers-fare interior' or 'inside travellers-fare' only show interiors of coaches. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks. I thought that one of mine might be broken but then realised I'd knocked out the foam which pushes the contacts together while taking it apart. I guess that it's going to be almost impossible to remove the body given that this forms part of the circuit. A very frank conversation with a saw might be on the cards in order to remove the arm, but I have no idea what to do about those hideous lampshades.

After removing the post, I have found that mine don't have a second wire anywhere.

I have some very battered lights in my box of spares (no idea whether they work, so it's worth a try). As you can see from the pictures below, there is only a single wire and contact. How is the circuit completed? I assume through the body of the light but I don't know. Also, how can I remove the light itself from the remaining body? Thanks in advance for any help with this.

Thank you all for the help.

A rather unusual question here, but I would like to know what newspapers railway staff would have read. It is possible to find circulation figures to give an idea of the national trend (which would suggest The Sun is number one, then the the Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Express and The Daily Telegraph are the top five). Was this trend reflected among railway staff, or was one of the smaller papers more succesful with this audience? Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide.

Thank you.

I already had a lower speed limit over the points. What I really want to know (although I didn't make that clear) is the speed restriction for trains travelling down the up line to reach the crossover. Would this be the speed limit at the crossover? Would this signal be interlocked with all three of the sets of points in the diagram?

Here is a (simplified) diagram of the situation. I have a bay platform at the bottom. Trains leaving this must cross the down line to reach the up line. Both of these lines have a speed restriction of 50mph. How would this be signalled in the 1980s on the GWML? What would the speed restriction most likely be for trains leaving the bay platform? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

A few thoughts from a younger modeller of BR Blue (and sectorisation liveries, but blue is still my favourite): 1) I just like the livery 2) A lot of my rolling stock belonged to my father when he was a child, so I had a lot of BR Blue trains to start off with 3) There is a larger variety of rolling stock. The brief period when GWR were changing over from HSTs to class 800s, and still had a few items of rolling stock in FGW purple is the most interesting period in my lifetime. I still remember an HST going past with a mixture of green and purple, as well as a first class coach in swallow livery. Every other point in my life has been watching the same shaped trains go past, wearing either purple or green. My love for EWS 66s must have something to do with the breaks from the relative monotony that they provided. 4) Related to 3, there were loco-hauled trains in rail blue. I live in the former WR, and have had a few trips on former SR routes as well as one journey from Temple Meads to Manchester Piccadilly. I have never been hauled by a locomotive on the mainline (excluding class 43s). In fact, I'm not sure that I've seen a diesel locomotive moving at high speed before (although I did get a very good view of the Flying Scotsman a couple of years ago). 5) It's escapism. I don't want my hobby to look like the world I see every day.

Thought so, but wanted to be sure.