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54 minutes ago, Corbs said:
In the spirit of trying to match the illustrations of someone who wasn't copying a prototype to real life locos, what's this then?
Perhaps they could give it the tender from this large prairie:
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I wonder if they'll be able to move the track on. When I last went the track from Thorpe Park's old railway (closed 2011) was sat in a pile under Swarm - I think it can be made out to the left of the track at 2:05 in the video below. I can't help but think someone would take it (or would have done a few years ago) and I can't imagine that letting it rot is the most profitable use.
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2 hours ago, Tankerman said:
Quote "As an aside Living in West Cornwall It always seems odd to me that Bristol is considered 'West County' when it is (by road) almost 200 miles North East of me!"
I thought the same having been born in Cornwall and living there until I was in my early thirties. On moving to Maidenhead I realised that those who lived in the South East had a different viewpoint, in that they considered the West Country to start somewhere not too far west of Swindon and the Midlands to start somewhere not too far north of Watford.
I wouldn't trust people from the South East with geography. I've been asked by (supposedly intelligent) Londoners if Wiltshire is in the North. This is after having to explain that it's near Bristol, and that Bristol is near the Welsh border. That said, a large proportion of the population of the western side of the county would probably agree that they live in the West Country. It's only a few miles from Somerset, Bristol is the nearest big city, we're surrounded by farmland, and the Wurzels once sang 'you never get surprises livin' in Devizes'.
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28 minutes ago, brightspark said:
I assume that this will be in OO. If so then you should have bags of space. EM or P4 things get tight.
An RTR chassis may be an obvious way forward, but have you considered scratch building a chassis from sheet brass?
Definitely OO, and no I haven't (and won't) consider scratchbuilding in brass. My soldering is not good and I don't really want to worry about things like working out how to mount the motor so that it's in the right place. Using an RTR chassis would eliminate much of that.
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A locomotive which I have wanted to build for a while now is a GWR-style 4-6-2T using a Manor boiler. The body choice seems obvious - a Mainline Manor boiler combined with an Airfix 61xx bunker, cab, and tanks. I can't quite work out how they would fit together. The Manor has a raised section over the cylinders which would suggest to me that either the Manor running board is lower or its cylinders are higher than the 61xx. I'm hoping that the 61xx running board sits at the same height as the raised section on the Manor's, since this would probably make it easier to join them while extending the running borad to accomodate the longer boiler and extra pair of leading wheels. Does anyone know if this would be possible?
There seem to be two broad approaches to this problem: start with a 4-6-0 chassis and add a rear pony truck, or start with a large prarie and change the front bogie to one with two axles. From the first approach, the options are:
- Mainline Manor - cheap, but by all accounts most are reaching the end of their serviceable lives now.
- Bachmann Manor - much more expensive than the Mainline version. I'm not sure what the differences between them are.
- Hornby Grange - I would expect this to be the best running option of the lot, but at a higher cost again.
- Future Dapol and Accurascale Manors - disqualified on cost grounds.
On the other side:
- Airfix GMR 61xx - cheap, especially if the body is used as well. The one I have is very good when running freely, but there is a fault with it which seems to produce excess friction from time to time, with the loco sometimes binding up alltogether.
- Hornby and Dapol 61xxs - disqualified on cost grounds.
I would lean towards the Airfix 61xx since I'm really not keen on the idea of a rear pony truck to a 4-6-0. My main concern is the position of the cylinders. These are much closer to the driving wheels than on a Manor. At the very least, this will mean that they are out of alignment with the smokebox and steam pipes on the Manor, and will need moving forwards (meaning that longer connecting rods will need to be sourced) or that elbow steam pipes, as seen on the 4 cylinder locos, will need to be found from somewhere. There might be other complications if the vertical alignment is not as I am hoping (see first paragraph) or if the cylinders foul the new front bogie - though without having all of the bits in front of me and test fitting them it probably won't be possible to know whether this is an issue or not. Any thoughts with respect to this would be very much appreciated.
Finally, I am not aware of any actual models of locomotives like this (though it is something which gets discussed or photoshopped occaisionally, but if anyone does know of one and can provide information on how it was built I would very much appreciate that.
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The number of people interested in Midland Railway 1000 class locomotives used to be approximated by the equation i*(1.01^t), where i is the class' initial following and t is the number of years since the class was introduced. Now it is goverened by the equation. Now it is better approximated by i*(1.02^t). This is due to a rise in rates of compound interest.
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As a thought: NWR #1 was a very non-standard loco, working at the other end of the country to the works that built it and to all of its classmates (and there were only 10 E2s built). Spares must have been a nightmare. Can we imagine Thomas with a 57xx boiler and Belpaire firebox? That would at least allow standardisation with Duck, and given that 57xxs were far more numerous, worked further north, and were built by Hatt's former employer, spares might have been easier to obtain as well.
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8 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:
0-6-0s were "duck sixes" - so I suspect that's the origin of Awdry's "Duck".
I always thought it was because Awdry's Pannier had a waddle (like the one Duck was alleged to have).
A Gaiety Pannier with a deformed wheel, according a few secondary sources:
https://ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Duck/Behind_the_Scenes#Behind_the_Scenes
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11 hours ago, MartynJPearson said:
Ah, the joys of opening a Bachmann class 108 DMU. After checking where the retaining screws are on the instructions, I remember the gumf about it being a detailed scale model for adult collectors that should be handled with care. Quite how you can handle it with the required care to open it beats me, the underside detail has had to be glued back a couple of times.
My other bugbear is bodies that clip onto the considerably more brittle plastic used for glazing.
Screws? You don't get that luxury on a 121. I've no problem with bending the body to get it off of the chassis clips when I'm dismantling a Lima 47, but it's a bit scarier on a £110 super-detailed DMU.
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2 hours ago, Cowley 47521 said:
Or the whole of the south west peninsula in N gauge!Mmm….
I think NR and the TOCs should support you in that, and kit it out with entirely prototypical signaling, with the trains responding to it as though they had a real driver, with realistic acceleration and braking profiles. Then when members of the public are stood on the platform mouthing off at station staff because their train's delayed, they take them upstairs.
"Why don't you show us how you would handle this situation?"
At least it'll give them something to do while waiting for their train.
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47 minutes ago, rodent279 said:
Were there any standard gauge double Fairlie's? If not, why not?
I think these were SG, but I'm not too familiar with Mexican Railways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlie_locomotive#Mexico
There appear to be some Russian ones as well, presumably broad gauge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlie_locomotive#Russia
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8 hours ago, HonestTom said:
People have been "showing off" since the dawn of human intelligence. We wouldn't have cave paintings if it weren't for some neanderthal who had a particularly good buffalo hunt and decided everyone needed to know about it.
To drive home the point:
Rousseau believed that amour propre was a (the?) main driver of human behaviour in civil society. Amour propre is (essentially) the tendency for human beings to compete for each other's approval. He wrote books (and what tedious, vague, frustrating books they can be!) which very often had among their aims finding ways to inculcate virtue into a population to control what he saw as the threat that people driven by amour propre would act in a way which was detrimental to society in order to pursue their own interests and gain recognition from others.
I'm sure that other philosophers from the 18th Century and even before have examined similar issues, but Rousseau's work sprung immediately to mind when I read the initial comment.
See also:
- Palaces
- Old houses with big windows
- Bulleid's pacifics
- The Colloseum
- Lambourginhis
- Statues of politicians, colonialists, etc. made of precious metals
- Long job titles
- People with so many military medals on their jacket you wonder how they remain upright, especially dictators who would be on the first plane out at the hint of a battle
- Every major sporting contest ever
- The Eiffel Tower
- The Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, etc.
- Railway termini, in London and elsewhere
- Statues of the Ancient Greeks, who are all suspiciously athletic
- Rich people in days gone by with artificially pale skin, to emphasise that they can afford not to work outside
- Rich people now with artificially tanned skin, to emphasise that they can afford to spend half the year on a beach in Spain
- Copper-capped chimneys and inside valve gear
Need I go on?
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11 hours ago, westernviscount said:
The raising awareness thing I have always found bizarre. There are many I am sure engagaing with Francis Bourgious but I would suggest on a superficial level. A bit like the old phrase "i am loving <insert craze> right now", which admits the transience and superficiality of interest. I would say if your initial engagement with something is superficial, and a parody of the actual thing, the engagement will remain superficial.
On the other hand, a surprisingly large number of chess players at my uni seem to have played when they were younger and then come back following the Queens Gambit. Obviously, a lot of the people who started playing at that time will have now given up, but since there are still people playing chess 15 months on who otherwise wouldn't be. Given that (for first years at least) they will have a lot less free time now than they did when the programme was released, I would suggest that it does provide some evidence that something becoming a craze for a few months can have a lasting impact and draw some people in for much longer.
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7 hours ago, big jim said:
i was blissfully unaware who or what Sam’s trains was until earlier today someone put a link on Twitter to an experiment where he was running a train underwater in a paddling pool, plugged into the mains via a Hornby controller and transformer!
That was enough for me, as a supposed ‘influencer’ it seems a pretty irresponsible thing to do with so many impressionable no doubt young followers who may have a go themselves and get the shock of a lifetime!
They did something very similar on the Great Model Railway Challenge. And there's no reason why putting a low DC voltage across tap water should be dangerous - most younger viewers have probably done it at school already as part of an electrolysis practical.
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My feline is the director of a railway. We call him Sir Topham Catt.
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26 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:
P.S. Hints on what Chemical Assistant you used please!
27 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:P.S. Hints on what Chemical Assistant you used please!
I think it's one that makes you see double.
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46 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:
Bloody hell, that's about 50p a millimetre.
I presumed it should read £1.87 , but then I read the Product Description and it's not just the price that's taking the P155....
I liked Graham Y.'s review:
QuoteIdeal radius
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A bit before your time, but there was this:
The base model needs a lot of work, but don't worry - after the latest price rises it only costs £50.99!
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I'm still supprised that they haven't tried to do more present-day trainsets or cheap DMUs. When I went to London as a child* the train journey there was always part of the excitement. I wanted an FGW HST like the ones that I'd travelled on, but since they were as rare as hen's teeth (and hence only available second hand, for a high price) that was never going to happen. I know that they've subsequently released a GWR set, and I would surely have have been delighted by this. The Turbos we would pass as we got near to London were also a familiar site. Had Hornby made a Railroad - level model I'm quite certain that I would have ended up with one, as it would have been cheaper than the Bachmann 166 I actually have. I believe that Hornby do have tooling for the 153, 155, and 156, which could be used more effectively (I specifically remember the 153 from a trip to Looe, and as being the first train to arrive at a packed Weston Super Mare, to a round of sarcastic applause). If Hornby had produced a good range of widespread trains in current liveries I imagine they would have prised a few more pennies out of my family at that time, and I can't help but think that children of that age will want models of the things they recognise. Isn't why HSTs, Thomas, Olton Hall, Flying Scotsman and the A4s (especially Mallard) sell - every child recognises them and wants their own small version? Going forward, that will be the Hitachi units, but the current model is far beyond trainset prices. Unless they decide that the Javelin in fictional liveries is 'good enough', I don't see how they can appeal to that market successfully in the future without producing a RailRoad version of the Hitachi 80x, which will soon be omnipresent.
*Really I'm talking about late 2000s-early 2010s, when I was about 5-10 years old
EDIT to add that what I actually expect to see is Great Bear or Turbomotive or another LNER pacific (if there's one left), along with some new liveries on a diesel or two, some of the stuff which was teased in the TV programme (HSTs, smoke generators, 73TTS, maybe a Railways 59), and new liveries for the 0-4-0s (which based upon the recent 'adjustments' will cost over £50). I will still refuse to pay more than £10 on ebay for those things, and I hope that others will see sense and do the same.
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While heritage railways have low speeds, the trains can be reasonably long (around 7 Mk1s is probably reasonable for the larger lines). Given that many heritage railways have small locos, such as industrials, class 08s, and older or smaller tank engines (Terriers and 14xxs, for example), I'm wondering how common it is for a locomotive's potential to be limited by its top speed, power, or tractive effort. Can this cause headaches for those planning timetables who need to balance the number of passengers that can be carried with ensuring that the railway's locomotives are used effectively? I would be interested to hear from anybody who has experience in these matters about how this balance is struck. Presumably double heading can play a role where its is power or TE rather than speed which present problems.
Thanks in advance for any thought that you are able to offer on this subject.
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28 minutes ago, Hroth said:
This years cracker jokes have been so terrible that I haven't the heart to relay them here...
We had one about a snowman which received a very frosty reception.
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Unfortunately I probably won't have much time in early 2022, due to revision and (hopefully) returning to university for Hillary. I've also burned through all of my pugbashing supplies over the last few weeks.
All of these have been seen before, in some form, on this thread. The 0-6-0ST is described on the previous page, and I don't think I've done much to it since. The 0-4-0T with the comically large boiler was previously seen several months ago as an 0-4-0PT. I took it to uni with me last term, but decided I really didn't like the workmanship on the scratchbuilt panniers. Since they were a pain in the rear end to build, I decided to rebuild it with side tanks (very big, but they need to hide the lower part of the boiler along its whole length. Parts are a Caley running plate, GWR cab, Dowlais firebox and smokebox, lip balm tube/lid thing boiler, and plasicard side tanks.
The other one could be called both a pugbash and a jintystein, but it stretches both definitions. It is, of course, a modified Dapol City. It sits on the chassis shown briefly on the previous page: a cut down Hornby Percy's frames, with the motor from a Hornby 0-6-0 (Thomas, I believe) and the wheels, axles, and gears from an old (I think 1970s) Hornby Flying Scotsman. The rear coupling comes from a Hornby 0-6-0 (no idea whether its the same one as the motor though). And where are the Jinty parts I promised? Well, as well as the components from Thomas (which used the same chassis as the modern day Hornby Jinty), I have used Triang Jinty wheels - not as wheels (because I don't have the means to grind down the flanges) but as ballast in the tender. At around 5g each they are a good way of getting a few extra grammes of mass, with a fairly low opportunity cost.
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14 minutes ago, cypherman said:
the worlds your
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Hornby 2022 - Trains on Film
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