Blobrick

Carrying on from the last topic, whilst looking for more photos of traffic over the branch, l found myself drawn to the camping coach S38S at Combpyne halt. 

As understand it the coach in question was a 1954 replacement  for the previous 6 wheeler. I believe this was an ex LSWR composite vehicle built around 1904.  I was wondering if one of Hornby's R4795 SR Ex LSWR Non-Corridor 3rd Class (Diag 31) coaches would serve as a basis for conversion ?

This would require the removal of steps at the coach ends and the replacement of the oval buffers with round ones.

All the colour images l ve seen of this coach show it in Green, but as the Southern  often re varnished coaches could this coach have survived into the late 1950s in Southern Green?

As an alternative perhaps i could try one of Hornbys Generic 6 wheelers  SR coaches to represent the LC&D vehicle the LSWR coach replaced?

Bob C

I d like to say a big thank you to everyone who took the time to contribute to this thread. The information has been a massive help in my very basic research. I am indebted to you all.

Bob C

19 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Unfortunately not, theirs is the smaller 10t type. Very nice as a cheat though!

 

Numerous types seem to have visited the line. If you want a suitable rtr suggestion I'd pick Hornby's Ex-LSWR brake, which is still readily available.

Thanks for the advice, l ll look out a suitable LSWR beastie, pity about Kernow's Road Van, lovely model! 

I take it that the Bachmann SR Pillbox is a "full fat" version and therefore now suitable either?

4 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Further clarification made to my earlier post. Hornby has done both the Toads, but not the modified 'B'. Possibly doable by grafting a section from the Airfix/Dapol brake van kit into the Hornby B.

 

AIUI, the Road Van wasn't withdrawn until 1957 or '58. Pics and notes appeared in a recentish issue of British Railways Illustrated. There is a resin kit produced by Smallbrook Studios on the Isle of Wight. 

 

Cambrian Models do a plastic kit for the lightweight version of the "Pillbox".

 

John

 

 

Would the Kernow models Road Van be suitable?

4 hours ago, Adam said:

 

A truly local factor - Bradfords had (have) their head office in Yeovil, but had offices/depots across the area including Lyme, I think. There was certainly a depot at Seaton, for example.

 

Certainly some freight went to Lyme in mixed trains. See these two from the amazing collection of Roger Joanes on Flickr:
 

 

 

I know  l am going to get shot by pestering folks, but is that a Maunsell Brake Composite coach in the top photo?

6 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Looks like a LNER Toad D, or possibly a Toad B retrofitted with steel duckets in place of the original wooden ones.

 

These ranged far and wide after the introduction of the Toad E (later developed into the BR standard type). One even made it as far as deepest Cornwall, based at Wadebridge for use on the Wenford Bridge branch

 

The "official" Lyme branch brake was, for many years,  20t ex-LSWR Road van, and later on one of the 15t SR Pillbox type.

 

John 

Thank you for the info on the Brake van, not an RTR item currently, but who knows!  I suspect that the LSWR Road Van did not see much of the 1950s, if so does that mean the SR Pillbox type was the regular van during the 50s? If so would it have been a fitted or non fitted version?  any thoughts' anyone?

4 hours ago, Adam said:

 

A truly local factor - Bradfords had (have) their head office in Yeovil, but had offices/depots across the area including Lyme, I think. There was certainly a depot at Seaton, for example.

 

Certainly some freight went to Lyme in mixed trains. See these two from the amazing collection of Roger Joanes on Flickr:
 

 

 

Great photos, thank you for the link. I note these are Flickr images, I m obviously very poor at undertaking searches especially on Flickr as l ve been through what l could find on there and missed these two gems, so thank you once again.

Can anyone identify the Brake van at the rear (where else!)  Is it a SECR vehicle?

2 hours ago, eastglosmog said:

Not a full freight train, but "Branchlines of the Southern Railway Vol 2" by Reeves and Hawkins (Wild Swan, 1983) has a picture of what is said to be a mixed train at Lyme Regis in 1903, when Terriers provided the motive power (the mixing seems to be restricted to one van).

Many thanks, for that tip. It's a little early, for me as l am primarily interested in the last few years of the branch's existence between 1958-60. It was during this time, the largest amount of photos seem to have been taken, alas sans freight traffic. However the photo you mentioned does along with the late 50s one l ve found suggest that possibly mixed traffic was allowed? 

2 hours ago, Rivercider said:

The book 'South West Railwayman' by Donald King has quite a lot devoted to reminiscences 

of the line, and some pictures, one is of freight.

On page 45 Ivatt 2-6-2T 41307 is seen at Combpyne, formed as far as I can see as:-

loco, 12t van, 16t steel min, 12t SR van, 16t min, 16t min, LMS brake van,

 

cheers  

 

Hi Kenny, many thanks for the information, it all helps

Cheers

Bob C

I m currently reading "From Devon to Dorset The Story of the Lyme Regis Branch" by M Smith and G.Reeve.  I noted with interest that there seemed to be no photographs of any form of freight working on the branch and this got me wondering.

I see from a WTT that there was one return freight working over the branch each day (Sundays excepted) , leaving Lyme Regis at 06:15 each morning, arriving at Axminster at 06:45 with a return working leaving Axminster at 07:23, arriving at Lyme Regis at 07:53. 

I suspect the reason that there appears to be no photos of these workings is the early hour a which these moves were made. Has anyone ever come across such photos?

The only photo l ve seen showing any kind of freight traffic was a BR 12t Box Van being marshalled at the front of a Lyme Regis service, dated 1958.

Has anyone come across any other photos showing freight of the branch?

Bob C

5 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

 

Many Thanks for the link, Hal Nail. I had come to the same conclusion with regard to the work involved. To be honest l m not confident of my abilities in the surgery required to correct the cab/bunker for the 7xx, hence why l asked if any members knew of someone that could help?

Thanks again

Bob C 

Does anyone know of, or could recommend someone to undertake the conversion of a Bachmann class 64xx pannier into a 74xx please?

I have an early emblem example of a 64xx that requires these modifications, any help or guidance would be much appreciated.

TIA

Bob C

6 minutes ago, Hal Nail said:

ok cheers. i gave mine a tweak with a screwdriver in behind yesterday and not even a hint of give.

That's what worries me, l don't want to be stuck (bad pun) with a broken of spigot in the smoke box door, l can imagine the damage l could cause trying to drill the remains out.

10 hours ago, Hal Nail said:

Did you get it off? I'd like to sit mine closer to the smokebox but think i might do more damage than good 

Hi HN, no l ve not been brace enough to try yet, if l get time l ll try this weekend.?

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Bob C

Thanks to everyone who answered, very much appreciated

Cheers

Bob C

I have the BR Black version of this model and its an excellent model, very happy with it. My only issue is that the smoke box door number plate is pointing upwards slightly. I assume that its not to difficult to remove the number plate without damaging it to realign it?

I d like o ask the BR Southern region lads here on RM Web, a quick question re Queen Mary Bogie Brake Vans?  I am currently trying to find photos of these vehicles in use around 1966? I ve come across a few images of these beasties in departmental use int he 70/80s, and this got me wondering when the were withdrawn from  regular use?

Does anyone have a Hornby R9511 Level Crossing hut they no longer want, or know of one for sale any where?

Thanks in advance

5 hours ago, Goldhawk said:

Taking up Wickham Green's suggestion I dug out my copy of "An Illustrated Survey of Selected SOUTHERN STATIONS" and picked out Hayes (Kent) as a good example of a Southern Railway reconstruction of the inter-war period.  

The plans are all scaled at 160 ft/inch and the measured distance between lamp posts on the plan I found to be about 20/32nds of an inch, which suggests that they were spaced about 100 feet apart.

Hayes is a island platform terminus type station and from the accompanying photos the platform lamps were of the double sided concrete type to be found at many of the Southern stations rebuilt or modernized at that time.

Many thanks Goldhawk, l appreciate your help, most useful info

Thanks Gents, the above has been very informative, I ve got a few options l d not thought of

Cheers

Bob C

13 hours ago, Kris said:

A little video of the loco running with a B-Set in tow. 

 

 

Are you running on Peco R2 radius curves?

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a specified distance between platform lighting columns? (In this case SR Stations)  Most model platforms tend to be under length compared to the 12'' to the 1' variety, so less lamp posts are needed, but this shortage of post can in its self make the platform look shorter. So l m wondering if there is a standard distance which then could be compressed to present a more realistic representation?

Cheers

Bob C

Thanks again Clive, top job as they say

Many Thanks

Bob C

Thanks Clive , that's very useful info, l ll  take a look and see

Cheers

Bob C

I ve just had a  email receipt  from Rails showing my balance has been settled on my pre order. suggesting that my order has been processed and the models on its way 😀