JN

Justified has two episodes with trains...

Some other steel flows not mentioned:

6B21 MX MARGAM T.C. - TROSTRE WORKS

6B56 MO CARDIFF TIDAL T.C. - TROSTRE WORKS

https://www.alamy.com/a-class-56-diesel-locomotive-number-56076-british-steel-trostre-heads-west-along-the-south-wales-main-line-at-marshfield-with-a-loaded-steel-working-image341260358.html?imageid=13D61B05-5929-4E1A-B18F-E3368B82F256&p=567659&pn=1&searchId=0b4e940667a78dab9bc2d8f00f7b5bf1&searchtype=0

As well as:

Llanwern/Cardiff Tidal - Margam

Margam - Mossend

Margam - Round Oak

Margam - Tees Yard

? - Boston Docks

Usually, from the photographs, BBAs or BDAs, but the linked photo above shows a train with loaded aluminium carriers. Cardiff ISIS (almost exactly opposite Canton depot) apparently used steel conveyed in IWBs. This, though, was usually a Distribution, rather than Metals sector, apparently coming from Wembley. Still a good, short, train to model - as I reiterate constantly, not every steel train is the Lackenby - Corby Tubeliner of 30 BBAs!

Limited, but relevant information can be found on

http://www.swanseadocks.co.uk/docksnewsite/railwaystrains.html

About 14 covered SEAs were also used for Cardiff Tidal - Wakefield Cobra. I cannot think of anything else, right now, but will let you know if I learn about or anything else.

4 hours ago, adanapress said:

Gong back to banking for a moment, within the last two months I saw an 08 being gently nudged a few yards by a lorry !,  to make an advantageous position for loading.  I'm being a shade vague  'to protect the innocent', but I do have a photo which might be released in a few years time. I don't

know. this might even be a commonplace. 

Looks intriguing.

http://www.hondawanderer.com/37800_Crowle_1999.htm

On 13/07/2023 at 14:05, JN said:

If you thought banking was confined to steam and railtours...

Probably not rare, though, for Stormy Bank (near Pyle, Wales).

 

A good variety of interesting workings for South Wales. Double/triple-headed 37s or 56s on iron ore trains from Margam to Llanwern like Hunterston to Ravenscraig. Going east to Llanwern the incline gradient is something like 1:139 steepening to 1:93.

https://tomcurtisrailgallery.weebly.com/post-01-august-20172.html

My bad. Turns out that Bridport - East Usk - Margam T.C. are top’n’tailed because of accessing the Bridport branch from East Usk Yard (as confirmed by the linked website. I did think a banker for the down (Bridgend - over Stormy Bank - Pyle) line was a little strange, but having not read the caption as well I assumed the loco was on to save a light engine move. Apologies.

Apologies if these have already been posted.

I have also seen a few videos of 43s amongst other traffic. Anyway, the photos are finds rather than my own work.

19 hours ago, Grimleygrid said:

As we await the final pre-production samples from the factory which will include the latest sound file and final speaker setup, the testing of our painted samples has continued. Thanks to Barrow Hill Junction; BR Blue 56008 was given a MGR working very prototypical for the area whilst 56049 was given some mileage on bogie tank wagons.

 

Link to YouTube video here: 

 

Please keep an eye out for updates coming soon.

Everything looks and sounds great.

6 hours ago, DavidB-AU said:

Not British but fits in with "prototype for anything".

 

 

Great find. I like railway locos up to the early 1990s, but steam locos are still the best. The GWR being aesthetically the best of the best. Still, glad to see rail haulage being done properly if less efficient. Class 37s, 47s, 56s, 60s are good pieces of kit and such, but I do not get as excited about them as a steam loco.

I could not tell you what the exact rules are and sometimes I post hoping I have done something right. I generally go for something specific or unexpected/unpredictable rather than everyday anywhere - an unusual working, something to do with the local geography like my post above. I have posted a six steel wagon train through Barnetby (yes, everyday there) if only to show not every steel train has to be 20-30 BBAs/BDAs. I would not post light engines, though, as that is like a day ending with y.

All of my finds are from just looking through photos and watching videos and thinking the photo/video might be of interest/relevance rather than. Some people's comments/posts can be quite witty.

Most of my finds will not involve humour because I am just not intentionally funny, but I still like to read an amusing post.

Thanks for sharing.

This brings back some happy memories...

19 hours ago, MrWolf said:

 

Don't forget to tell everyone that you are "using double sided sticky tape for speed..." 

 

Although we now know that by the 1980s some of the presenters were using their vast BBC salaries to buy cocaine instead...

As well as the other classic: 'Here is one I made earlier'. I remember that one from Anthea Turner making Tracey Island.

On 16/06/2023 at 02:31, pH said:

 

 

My winning bid was just over $26 - I don’t think you would get much plumbing done for that!

 

I said there were two bids over the bid I won with - they were by two different userids. Both were then withdrawn according to e-bay’s pretty specific rules as I described above. In 20 years or so bidding on e-bay auctions, I can’t remember ever seeing a bid withdrawn before - then two, by different userids, on one auction???

 

Fortunately, my bid was a ‘fire and forget’ that I made a couple of days ago. I didn’t see any of this until after the auction was over, so it had no influence on my bidding. 

I was suggesting an alternative reason(s) as to why the person might have have withdrawn their bid.

Obviously I do not know, but (as I have stated) possible reasons. As regards paying a plumber with $26, well, if a plumber anything more than $26 that might be his model railway budget for the period of time (opportunity cost: the foregoing of the next best alternative). I was trying to give people the benefit of the doubt rather than being cynical.

I do not know why the people withdrew their bids. My point was more general, though: maybe not a bot artificially inflating the price or something similar. Never mind.

On 16/06/2023 at 20:42, Paul H Vigor said:

Caught in the act by SWMBO!?

Possibly. Another one of possibly infinite reasons I forgot about. Possibly some other family-related expense. I do not know why the people withdrew their bids. My point was more general, though: maybe not a bot artificially inflating the price or something similar. Never mind.

2 hours ago, pH said:

 I’ve just won an item at a good price, below my maximum. However, there were two bids of higher amounts, which were then quite quickly withdrawn. Was some person or persons trying to force me to bump my maximum bid? What are the rules for withdrawing bids? 

Maybe. Maybe the bidder got cold feet or found a cheaper alternative or a pipe burst (and so had to call a plumber and then had to pay for that - plumbers can be expensive and perhaps some 'model railway' money went on a more essential spend) or got fired/made redundant (so had to stop buying luxuries). Just saying that the reason might not have been malice.

On 13/06/2023 at 09:35, ISW said:

Surely not with those huge skylights?

 

However, I do take your point. I've see other roofs (eg: National Trust properties and some churches from the same period) that use a similar construction. Seems that roof 'designs' were much-of-a-muchness in the 19th Century. I'd guess the station designer simply followed 'common' practice for that time.

 

Ian

Fair point about the skylights, but I was meaning the high roof and Tudor style walls. The common architecture during the Victorian era was Neo-Gothic (Palace of Westminster, Rochdale Town Hall) and was about bringing back the Gothic architecture of the Middle Ages (Westminster Abbey and York Minster as well as Canterbury, Ely Lincoln Cathedrals). Originally the term Gothic was used as an insult as Romanesque gave way to Gothic. I interpret Gothic architecture as pointing to something higher.

On 15/03/2023 at 20:47, ISW said:

Overbridge Building - Forecourt Canopy Completed

 

Well, as ever, I'm using the term 'substantial completion' for a few reasons. Firstly, no modelling is ever 'complete', and until it actually installed on the bridge over the railway [1] it can't be properly embedded into the roads.

 

[1] - The plywood has been bought and it's sitting in the garage. That's a job for when it gets a bit warmer

 

The canopy has seen some 'tweaking' to get it to fit with the other roofs and, while I was at it, the 6 side roof sections have been amended such that they are now a 'snug' fit onto the walls. Previously I was relying on gravity (that most unreliable of forces) to keep them in roughly the right place.

 

After clearing the desk, I assembled the whole Overbridge Building for the first time.

 

View from over the Southbound Track:

 

View from over the Northbound Track:

 

I then added some 1:76 scale 'vehicles', including a Midland Red bus (of course), to give a sense of size. This is looking into the forecourt canopy from over the Northbound track:

 

And here's the same view from over the Southbound track (the bus has moved ...):

 

And finally, here's a slightly more close-up view of the completed forecourt canopy:

 

Looking back at my records, it's taken just under 2-weeks to complete the forecourt canopy, which feels like too long. I'm sure that if I did it again it'd take half that time, but then again, there would be no design drawing to do or preparing the drawings for the Cricut either. It therefore seems that the drawing side of things took about 1-week and the actual construction about 1-week as well, which I suppose is quite good.

 

Not sure what I'll be building next, but the Overbridge Building would sorely benefit from some chimneys ...

 

Ian

Impressive!

On 28/01/2023 at 18:57, ISW said:

Overbridge Building - Booking Hall Roof

 

Whilst this roof did take a long time to build, I didn't have any major obstacles / problems as it went together. For something of a change, the parts went together 'as planned' and the construction method(s) also worked first time. Practice makes perfect? Unlikely, as the other roofs for the Overbridge Building will probably prove ...

 

The Booking Hall roof has glazing along both sides and I was going to make this as I've always done; sandwich the glazing sheet between layers of cardboard. However, on examining photos of the building, it was apparent that the glazing is slight proud of the rooftiles. The glazing was therefore glued to some stiff paper (230gsm) to provide nice raised frames:

 

Top: as cut stiff paper, fresh off the Cricut cutter

Middle; Glazing with paper 'painted' black with a Sharpie, and glued[1] (glazing up)

Bottom; Glazing with paper 'painted' black with a Sharpie, and glued[1] (frames up)

[1] - I just used spray adhesive for this.

 

A cardboard (more cereal packet) was cut into a frame surrounding the roof opening to 'raise' the glazing as per the real thing:

 

Because I have a nice photo of the roof inside the Booking Hall, I simply had to incorporate something representative into the model roof. Those ribs are 3-layers of cereal packet cut on the Cricut, glued together with PVA, and painted with cheap (pound shop) acrylic paint:

 

The whole roof assembly is a 'tight fit' on the rest of the Overbridge Building model, but can be removed without too much difficulty. Here is the Overbridge Building with the Booking Hall roof in place (note the flat ceiling applied to the rest of the building in preparation for those to receive their roofs.

 

Main Entrance side:

 

Gallery Side (hmm, needs a Gallery to be built ...):

 

As a final photo, here is a nice view through the Gallery door ( I really will have to do something about the 'wavy' floor ...):

 

With the Booking Hall roof completed, that still leave 6 more to complete the main part of the Overbridge Building, 3 on either side of the Booking Hall. Those are going to get a little boring to build as 4 of them are effectively the same, as is the remaining pair. By the end of those roofs I should be getting good at it, just in time to discover I've no more to make ...

 

Ian

I do a little double take on this... Could also pass for the interior of a c.15-17th Century Manor House (sorry to get all GW on your LM too).

I can tell you from experience fitting 21 BYAs into that space will be difficult. N-gauge might be better than oo for that.

Also, your alcove will be big enough for one locomotive (60s in oo are about 280mm, 56s are about 260mm) on each road or a 153, but not both on the same road. A Class 156/158 are about 600mm.

Not every steel train was/is the length of the Corby-Lackenby Tubeliner. Sometimes less is more. From your design I can see that you want

Freight operation

Passenger operation

I know Redland Aggregates seem to have been around there. Given that most steel wagons around Boston are bogies, that wagon would suit more gentle curves and longer straights. Perhaps change location to the Hope Valley. PCA tanks, passenger traffic. 142s/150s between Manchester and Sheffield via Marple and 158s, sometimes with a 156 coming off at Nottingham, between Liverpool and Norwich via Stockport and Sheffield as well as beautiful scenery. If you go with 2003 you can get those Manchester Piccadilly-St Pancras HSTs Midland Mainline ran for a while.

Still, good to see someone modelling something different. Anyway, my suggestions might just be waffle, but are meant and can be followed or not. Sometimes I like to contend with two ideas and pick the one I like the most/that works best in the constraints given.

21 hours ago, Weeny Works said:

From someone I follow on Flickr...

 

Wickham Trolley at ICI Wilton Works. Yes you can run a full size flat wagon behind your Wickham trolley 😆

 

 

This might also be good for the 'when the real thing looks like a model' thread!

On 08/11/2022 at 09:07, Lacathedrale said:

Tilt-Shift Photography makes real things look like a model by simulating a limited focal length that a model uses - I wonder if this one, being a night exposure with a vertical background of leaves which no doubt moved during the photo being taken, has done the same thing?

I had a look at the original file and seems like the lens was the 35mm f1.8 (https://www.jessops.com/p/nikon/af-s-35mm-f-1-8g-dx-lens-76070?gclid=CjwKCAiAjs2bBhACEiwALTBWZUNlAauRsSe_Y7l0TDPl1nff2O6RTkXQaAb1Bh9X5D-yLUflyWuhCBoC6WAQAvD_BwE). No post-processing either. Nigel probably used a tripod. I have known for a while now about the exif tab on Flickr. My first thought was tilt-shift as on many of these, but this turned out not to be so.

Edit: Other lenses and/or from other retailers are available.

13 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Ever wanted to see how long a train you could assemble ? .... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-63442530

 

 

That would be the equivalent of a London to Glasgow train being about thirty-nine miles long! Would that be about London Euston to Bletchley?!

12 hours ago, James Makin said:

That would be a fun idea sometime! Right now I feel a bit of a beginner in that area, it all looks a bit daunting presenting the stuff for filming and then working out how people do the post production editing to make it watchable, seems like witchcraft! 
 

I guess practice makes perfect, my fear is just running off a load of cheesy Alan Partridge-esque videos 😂
 

Cheers,

James

Long time follower of this topic. Adobe Rush would probably be the best, but expensive for a one time thing. Fairly easy to learn and use. I managed to produce my first video without reading any instructions - took me longer to sort things out than produce the video! I cannot really comment on other software packages, but one can probably get some decent (easy to use) for free (I mean agreed to be free not using some hack) online. However, another option is to upload the file straight from a phone. just upload the job lot as single separate file and type 'excuse the 5 seconds of faff before I actually start spraying'.

If you do decide to go ahead, film more than you have to. That way you have buffer footage for the cutting room floor and you can ready yourself for audio description or the actual work and can forget you are being filmed. Richard of Everard Junction does a good job, probably better than he needs to. Cut well. Good sound. Good visual quality. I am not saying it's too good or unnecessary, but I am suggesting the best does not have to be the enemy of the good enough for the intended purpose. Most people would be watching for information about a hobby they enjoy rather than to view an artistic panoramic of a mountain range with a lot of visual detail.

I have used broadcast quality cameras for video, but with the intention of broadcasting the media on a TV not (just) a YouTube square. Use the best you already have and if you do need to buy, buy the best you can afford. Broadcast quality cameras are very heavy, built like tanks and need a free shoulder (if you have no tripod which takes up space around where you working) and often need two hands to work the controls which would be awkward for airbrushing! Your phone can be propped up on a workbench. These days you might be able to get away with mobile phone recording. Mid-range to high-end DSLRs from Jessops etc are used for people who regularly share lengthy podcast videos online. The BBC probably have their cameras custom-made. I can only tell on a TV too. Whether you describe your actions as you do them is your call. Some people make it visual only, but others add audio description to allow people to listen in the background or watch.

If you are worried about file size do not shoot in 4k!! Huge files. Huge. A ten-minute video (from a 20mp full frame camera) could use the entire hard disk space of a laptop. Mpeg would be fine for the purpose. A bit like jpeg and raw photos I cannot tell the difference.

Anyway, I like trains, model railways and like seeing the different work you do with the different locos. I hope you do not mind me giving the advice even if not needed for whatever reason (maybe, too, someone else might come across this post and find it useful). Let me know if you need/want anymore info. Thanks for sharing too.

10 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Middlesbrough to Newcastle service at Hart 1987 by Rob T653

 

 

During the early 1990s apparently 47s with three or four MK2s ran this service as Pacer/Sprinter replacements too.

7 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Of course it isn't confusing!  'I saw three passenger trains' - a statement of fact because I did see three passenger trains.  I said where I was when I saw them so the geography is clearly established.   And those trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of minutes - a simple fact of geography and the route of the railway and trains speed.  So hardly Schrodinger's train or trains  but actually GWR's and Cross Country's.  I rest my case on proper usage of the English language - however as Schrodinger was Austrian i do accepth that, perhaps, he might have had some difficulty with English.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The sentence structure seemed odd to me. Never mind.

I should have explained, further that railways normally have gaps in traffic for commercial and safety reasons. His shutter speed was what, 1/125. I am sure less than 100th of a second of totally empty track would happen on the busiest of days. The maximum optimal distance between trains is about five minutes at line speed (more for single line workings). I thought the point of this thread was to show something unusual and the photograph was not of something unusual to me. I have obviously misunderstood something again, so I will apologise for the misunderstanding.

17 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Visiting the trainspotting branch of Waitrose in Tilehurst yesterday I can confirm from what I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of only a few minutes - one on each running line except for the Up Relief.  That of course was on a strike day when far fewer trains than normal were running.

I would have thought this is a common sight is what I meant to write.

I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through is a bit confusing unless you are citing Schrodinger's train.

On 21/06/2022 at 15:34, Rugd1022 said:

No trains at Pangbourne, but then again this was taken ten years ago.... 😉

 

 

 

I would have this would be a common sight...

On 17/06/2022 at 00:48, KeithMacdonald said:

You can't park there mate.

Why effing not?

Have you looked in your rear-view mirror?

 

 

On 17/06/2022 at 15:25, F-UnitMad said:

Why is someone running old Lima HO trains on a 4mm scale layout??

 

THIS is street running with presence.... 🤣🤣👍👍

19 hours ago, melmerby said:

 

The building is the one on the left at the end of the street

 

21 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said:

https://youtu.be/pjuPpVLXDQg

Other such situations exist in South and South East Asia happen too. I remember during the film War Photographer (about photojournalist James Nachtwey) another railway ploughing through a slum with buildings not much further than the loading gauge.