bradfordbuffer

3 minutes ago, Red Devil said:

Meanwhile the Crossley Railbus chassis, ok Park Royal has a test, happy enough with it running wise. I think I may go with the100mah battery shown, this may be the test bed for 'active charging' the easiest option will be two small metal sections on the RC receiver pod that will pick up off a couple of brass phosphor bronze wipers set into the middle of the fiddle yard track, suitably offset so they can only ever do + to + etc....

I can now think about the rest of the plastic chassis bit to take switch, conventional charging socket and inline fuse.

Lots of gears due tomorrow so expect a few more boring mech trials soon!

 

With wires sticking up thought you where going to do a trolly car version😃

Smooth runner

G

1 hour ago, Blefuscu said:

 

I can't seem to send messages either... I can't even see the option to send one. Nor can I find any settings regarding direct messages either - so I'm stumped there.

Hope I'm not attempting to tell you how to suck eggs....apologies if I am....but I did not know until some one showed me!

Hope they come in correct order

21 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

Thanks! Those are cracking photos, really useful!

 

Initially, I was intending to skip over b & c, but it turns out as I'm becoming aware of these differences I might as well try and fill in the gaps, even if I don't use them myself.

That book on mk2 coaches would also be really useful, but it's too expensive for me.

Is that the Harris mk2 book +100 quid for 2nd hand ... 

Hear is a out side the box thought....I'll chip in 20quid need 4 more like minded individuals we get the mk2 stl files when ready? In return for 'research donation'

To my mind I will never be able to draw the cad but can cook the files in oven at home and for us minority scales it's investing in the future of my own hobby! 

If you don't want to go down that route it's fine....it does feel a bit like prostitution but Hay ho!

Any one else in?🦻

Blefuscu ....rm message me as still unable to send via rm message

51 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

 

This is going to take a while, so don't be too vigorous or you'll get cramp!

I haven't touched a vertex since posting that image... I've been looking at photo's of the gutters all evening, and other minutia, instead. Mostly the gutting though! As far as I can tell, from mk2b onwards the roof has a wrap around guttering, and the 2a doesn't. To make matter worse I found an image of a 55 pulling out of Doncaster with a rake comprised entirely of mk1 coaches in 1980. I'm already modelling the mk1 RB and BG, so I should probably do those coaches too. I can see this getting out of control...

 

Accuracscale have good images of the underneath of their 2b and 2c models... but I expect they will differ a bit from the 2a and 2d I'm doing. I know some of the aircon stuff goes down there.

C to the left a to right...taken on wensledale railway last year...when next in loft will dig out some old printed photos of underframe on mk2s at Carnforth 

14 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one. I might need some GUVs myself at some point too!

https://cults3d.com/en/users/davidjohnhope/3d-models

I'm shaking my bottles of resin as I speak!...there is some n gauge GUV and newspaper version on cults I'm using body with a etched brass side in 3mm might be useful to yourself cracking underframe in resin 

8 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

That's the intention... I think they'll be cheaper than the 313/55 because I can reuse a lot of the coachwork between models and just cut/add windows and roof vents etc to it. In theory.

Love it!

5 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

I'm going to model some coaching stock.

 

For the time being I'm only looking at the class 55/47 services between Kings X and Edinburgh, around 1980. From the notes I made a while ago I think I need a rake of SO-SO-SO-SO-RKB-RUO-FO-FK-BSO, or SO-SO-SO-SO-RB-SO-FK-BG, or perhaps, TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO-RB-FO-FO-BG

 

Admittedly, my notes could have been clearer...

 

Armed with a copy of Longworth's Coaching Stock I have found the diagrams for most of those, and some numbers for coaches that would have been in use at this time. The numbers generally checkout with coaches I've seen on my Flickr trawls.. but, oftenly, one can only make out the numbers on the first coach.

 

SO    AD203   Second Open Mk2a    E5229 -E5241

TSO    AC206   Second Open MK2a    E5257 - E5300

TSO    SC209    Second Open Mk2d    E5616 - E5743

BSO    AE204    Brake Standard Open Mk2a     E9426-E9433

BSO    AE206    Brake Standard Open Mk2d     E9479, E9485, E9488, E9489, E9491 - E9495

FK    AA109 (AA105?)   First Corridor Mk2D    E13361-E13378    

FO    AD105    First Open     Mk2D    E3170-E3188

RB    AJ402    Buffet/Restaurant     E1661, E1663-E1699, E1714, 

RUO   Diagram 61?     E1959-E1991

RKB    AH502    Buffet/Kitchen     E1512-E1526

BG    NE5013A    Brake Van      E81573 - E81583, E81478 - E81497, also photos of  E81401, E81266, E81460, E81400 

 

Good grief, it took quite a while to pick that lot out of my notes, and I had to go back to the book on a few occasions as I think I had the wrong diagrams printed out for some of these. I'm still not 100% confident. However, (as ever - undeterred by lack of confidence!), I've made a start with Second Open Mk2a.

 

Oh boy can feel another payment to cults! If there going that way.?....or should I say YOU WILL PUT IT ON CULTS...😃

G

6 hours ago, RBE said:

That's useful, so do you think that the light working automatically, without the driver pressing a function, is the way to go?

Yep...for realistic operation then switchable to markers only for none mainline running, only as that is how the original lighting was setup!

BUT when does head light come back on? Speed step 001? On dcc ....or when voltage applied to dc? Some would say retro step back to one grain of wheat bulb illuminating a light bar! As you can tell firmly sat on fence.....thanks to BR's crazy original set up you have a difficult call to make!

May be a prototypical operation one to many as you will have hundreds of returns as you know modelers can't read instruction manual! 😃

Think I've just texted my self to 75% leave them on all the time switchable to markers only with function key!

Your trains your call....some modelers will moan regardless😁 

G

30 minutes ago, RBE said:

It's not prototypical though is it? As the driver has to manually turn the master switch off for it to go out. It's not a case of if the loco stops it goes out. 

Unless doing intensive shunting (so should have markers only switched on but becoming less used by crew) as soon as loco stops for a 'pause' be it in yard / shed/ loop the direction selector is placed to EO engine only or as some call it neutral ! This activates the second feature! The auto recline! Seat back feet up! Then this instantly activates function key 101 brew in hand 😄

G

28 minutes ago, darrel said:

Thanks. The driver would normally put the master switch into neutral when the train stopped. So my thought would be the headlight would go out automatically when the train stopped on the model. 

The set up always annoyed me when driving 60s when you stopped in a loop as soon as you come to a halt and place direction selector to EO head light goes out and the 3w! bulb is all that is illuminated the markers where very poor light if running in day mode and drivers side marker had blown

when you stop no illumination at front!

(Don't scream at me to look at FIP above side window but loop time is feet up and rest eyes time) very often I use to switch over to markers only only to not put head light on on departure...🙈

Are the new light cluster variety the same set up?

Head lights in yards and loops look better off

1 hour ago, MarshLane said:

@TT100 Diesels @03060

Guys thanks for the response.  Yes I am on the eGroup, so I'll ask the question but both of you have come down on the same side of the argument that I did, and the supporting background and reasoning was useful, thanks. I'll go down that route I think.  Also thanks to Ian, as I had not realised the shop did MJT compensated bogie kits. I'll look into those.  One thought of designing my own etch is to make fitting pick-ups easier, although logically, pick-ups cannot be too difficult to add to any coach bogie!

 

Cheers guys

Richie

Don't forget dcc concepts bogie pick up springs for sliding on to 1.5mm axel

On 26/04/2024 at 01:33, bradfordbuffer said:

20s 31s 37s 47s body mounted brackets...presume the others are same

None fitted to 56s 60s have 'obstacle deflector' not a snow plough (although did clear line on S&C with one ...hit a 6ft drift with no damage)

Well a visit to Key model world show it would of been rude not to take pictures of plough brackets of the 37 on display....didn't have to put hv vest on nor crunch ballast! 

On 25/04/2024 at 11:23, RBE said:

We’re looking forward to attending Model World Live this coming weekend at the NEC - if you’re attending visit stand A30 to see the latest updates on our Class 60 project!

 

Regards

Cav

Looks like the hot plate will rattle uncontrollably at a round ¼ power setting.....just like the real thing! The dials and other cab details ...wow!

17 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

As slow as that? I thought MGR discharge was at 4mph. Every day a learning day. 
 

Roy

👀 need a decimal point first coal would be out side the shed not on conveyer belt to be stored or burnt...! Think a few Garston drivers tried faster at fiddlers Ferry but took longer to set back and start again! 

Did manage a distcharge with out stopping and without setting back! No one back at depot believed me...the model class cab is bloody amazing

3 hours ago, Phil Mason said:

 

Tin plate ploughs. No claim to originality but I chickened out of the middle bit, possibly making TT100's a 'first'? I used tin plate because I thought plastic would look too thick (but I've been proved wrong) and I'd done similar ones in 2mm. 

 

My question to the railway professionals out there is "should they be attached to the body" and to modellers "would that make it easier or do we have a problem with greater than prototypical 'bogie swivel'? 
 

 

I couldn't find 403 in present day or 80s, so you'll have to make do with this, posing at York recently. 
 

At this rate, HPJ will have more locos than Toton...

20s 31s 37s 47s body mounted brackets...presume the others are same

None fitted to 56s 60s have 'obstacle deflector' not a snow plough (although did clear line on S&C with one ...hit a 6ft drift with no damage)

47 minutes ago, TT100 Diesels said:

37403 progress.......

 

Got the mini ploughs epoxied on to the bogie transoms, bogies and underframe had matt black then weathered black base coats applied. Started to build up colour on the ploughs, need these fully painted before messing with the buffer beam detailing pipes and jumpers etc as they will be in front of the ploughs and would make access more difficult.

 

Also painted the roof, ended up as a home brew mix of white and Citadel "Admisinstratium grey". This was because the railmatch acrylic rail grey 2206 isn't - its more beige, so had an abortive time applying it and hoping it dried right, err it did not. So I had to sort out a roof that was essentially intercity swallow livery coach beige! So need to let it all harden, there is a lot of masking bled under and masking edge ridge to rework with fine finishing grit paper.

 

 

Starting to look a lot more "Ingey three". I think the mini ploughs make it "pop". Funny that they look a lot more yellow than actually are, they still need a few more thin coats yet.

 

With the primer on, round the windscreens, they are looking a lot better after two rounds of very careful fettling, than the as supplied print bodyshell, I am very pleased how they turned out. Ok, not Accurascale, but my eye is pleased, so that's all that matters.

 

Cheers

 

D.

Looking good....is the 37 on the last one back from Mallaig with the sun setting behind the loco!

2 hours ago, railtec-models said:

 

Oops! Don't know why I had TT on the brain. Compounded brain fog developing more packs as well as prepping for the NEC next weekend. Edited accordingly.

3mm catalog currently at 2334 items. Hopefully something for (almost) everyone.

Think nec show going to be bonkers...hope all goes well for keymodel team and first of many...

2334 brilliant who said modeling is dead

G

1 hour ago, railtec-models said:

 

I also did the full scale hand painted numbers on the real thing in that photo! DRS wanted the original thing replicating, albeit they weren't going to try to replicate hand painting the numbers as they were in the 80s so approached me to see if I could do them as vinyls. They were sat on top of my wardrobe for a good while before they were needed at the RTC, and of course I very happily delivered them in person so as to get a "tour". Well, who wouldn't.

 

It's fascinating to watch the TT story evolve.

 

Errr 3mm please!....so we don't get confused for the euro trash tt120😁🙊

And whilst you on the line....tar for extensive 3mm range avaliable 

G

57 minutes ago, TT100 Diesels said:

Ok gang, back down to earth again, it was a fun day at Macc railex but the work bench beckons......

 

Was going to keep this one under wraps but since it was brought up at macc, I am figuring that it may as well feature here as another build.

 

 

Came away from last weekend's EMAG Bingham meet up with this beastie from Lenny. Ready to roll 37/4.

 

 

Pop the body off and the motorised chassis is revealed. Power wise, its an A1A - A1A, the centre wheelsets are flangeless dummies, same principle as seen on the Peak.

 

 

Engine room windows were blanked off, so a bit of chain drilling then needle file work.

 

 

With ref to the other pix above, the windscreen surrounds were heavily printed, I prefer to remove them, which I did, a lot of care and attention for that job. Looking at photos, I also needed to just open out the top of the inner corners of the windscreens to follow the roof profile curve. 

 

Also, adding filler to allow a less tight corner on the bottom outer corners of the windscreens. In all, it helps improve the overall look.

 

The headcode box corners were radiused a bit more as well.

 

Plasticard and micro rod used to knock up the nose end MU ops recept and ETH recept.

 

 

Decided on doing 37403 "Isle of Mull", which was an ex WR loco pre HGR into a /4. So in addition to the normal lamp irons at tail light level, had the funny WR "sticky outey" ones to the sides of the headcode box.

 

And, well, one can't have a 37/4 without miniature snow ploughs can one ? So, a bit of trial and error with the plasticard. Scaled off photos, and knocked up the side ploughs, temporary fixed with poly cement (not a strong bond onto 3d print so easy to remove again) to estimate it looking ok and judge how big to make the centre plough. In this pic, the centre plough was version 2, a bit bigger and spot on to my eye. 

 

So it was simply a case of replicating another set for the other end. I have kept the dimensions for making more for my yet to be done 26 & 27.

 

 

Running trials on the layout to test "proof of concept". Note the version 1 smaller centre plough which got the boot.

 

Need to work out how to do the rest of the buffer beam detailing around the ploughs, but super pleased anyway with the way the ploughs have turned out.

 

😆

 

And this is what I am aiming for, large logo blue, 37403 "lsle of Mull", I just think LL was made for 37's, however, mine will be mid 80's incarnation, so no nose number or orange OLE warning line, and era specific OLE flashes. Railtec do Eastfield LL 37 specify your number transfer set, and 3d waterslide standard BR type nameplates specify your name, so its all achievable.

 

So, that's it, on with the next one, funny its last one in but jumped the works que !

 

Cheers

 

D.

another epic build starts.....im being picky but its past april so centre section of plough needs to come off!😆

3 piece plough first ive seen on 3mm loco 

g

17 minutes ago, Chrisjh said:

Recieved my Class 56's which are great I have fitted a Gaugemaster DCC 21 pin chip to both of them but I cant seem to activate the cab lights can anybody enlighten me as to how these are activated please, many thanks 

 

Chris 

is battery switch in?

Attempted a message to yourself still not allowing via rmweb

33 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

 

 

I have started whiteboxing some rough building shapes over the map, and added my 313 and 55 models for fun too.  I've cut the size of the depot a bit, but it's still far too big for my loft. Hard choices ahead... for now I will work on the station and neighbouring garage as a minimum! The garage is basically still there, kind of. I believe that the Hornsey Historical society have a photo of it from the eighties.

 

wow! its huge...thought it was a cameo type layout....how wrong i was!.....normal modelers use the back of a envelope or a bit of old wallpaper for planning

brill...keep it up

g

2 hours ago, Alcanman said:

I have to agree !  The light colour weathering wash Just doesn't look right .  This is how a weathered 56070 should look. However, each to their own.

 

Judging by damp ground....the weathering been given a damp coating....Will look different dry

12 minutes ago, Blefuscu said:

 

 

I got the DM running today. Not a very exciting video! You can skim forward to see it running at different speeds.

 

It's been running for a couple of hours now on printed drive shafts...

 

I was hoping to get the carriage chassis going too but somehow the latest version of my bogies have 0.5mm less clearance!? I don't know how I ****** that one up, but they are painted now so will whittle them down rather than reprint.

 

 

Brill nice and smooth....hope you put toys away before tea!