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Here's another one ...............

The year is?

I couldn't find a date, on the pic, so I thought I would ask!

Thanks as always for your ideas!

Hi Folks

My local stations don't get all that much of a mention, so I thought I would share this. I found it while looking through some old stuff- Hooton, anyone guess the year?

Dean

I believe from the original post, that this is 47199. I haven't been able to source the other pics, they are in the RM Web archive, and I don't have clearance to access them!

Dean

Thanks for the info. Thinking of my sighting it must have been 1984/5 then, as it would have been in the afternoon while I was on Coast & Peaks rover, 1984 or 85 (I forget which) was the first year I used the route.

I used to work near the factory where the edible oil terminal was- the tanks were often seen on the track alongside Stadium road. I can vividly remember Class 47 'Total Energy' being parked up here, awaiting its return trip.

Thanks for your reply!

I cant recall the original post that I found this pic in- there were a few others, including one of broken rails at the end of what is now the "Up" platform. It was an old RM post. If I can find it, I will put the pics back up.

Just wondered whether any local buffs can shed some light on this?

I found an old pic of a 47 pulling some flats from the siding to Port Sunlight works, just wanted to know when this was? looks like it was taken from the signal box. The former fast lines are gone, the overbridge is in place. There was another one of the broken rails which have been removed to put the concrete platform in.

Also, someone at Bromborough station asked me when the fast lines were lifted from Platforms 1 and 2? do any photos exist of this at lifting?

Regards, 

Dean

Hi

I found some content on this area from an old post from a couple of years back- can anyone shed some light on them? Must havs been when the fast lines had been taken up, and the new concrete platform was in- there is another somewhere which shows these lines broken, but not removed.

Can anyone tell me when the former fast lines were lifted through Bromborough, and if any photos of this period exist?

DEan

Access is open so just some of the time? As said at the top once they take a T3 the line is handed over to the PICOP so although engineering trains can go in it's not really open. If trains are going in then it's not signed out of use so is the T3 just on when it's not required for traffic because there's so much to do?

If it is open part of the time then I'd guess there's a speed on too.

Hi Mate, there has only been 2 engineering trains on it in the past few years- they used it for access to Rock Ferry station during re-ballasting operations in and around the station. They did not venture any further along the branch- not surprising really, the track does not look in the best of condition. As I said earlier, the block coal trips finished a very long time ago now, and I think the branch was just abandoned, although it is still extant, at least up to Green Lane, as far as I am aware. They did put a new rail bridge in, but whether they re-instated the track, I have not been up there to check.

Dean

If it's that long term then yes signing out is more likely or the forms would be mounting up by now, Signalman and PICOP have to sign the form at every shift change.

We had a rolling sidings possession on the Wilton Goods Line and that was eventually signed off as a constant block, interestingly only lifted earlier this week after new traffic was booked and Pway had to throw a ton of resources at it.

Hi Mate,

The Access to the branch is still open, and the signalling is still turned on.

Dean

As a PICOP is required at all times on a T3 (its his railway and not the signalmans) if the Docks has been out of use for a very long period, its actually unlikely that it is under a T3. I would suggest its actually Out Of Use, with just a sleeper chained to the access with a stop board...

 

Andy G

Thanks Andy- there's been no traffic on the line now for a very long time- I think the last Block coal train, ran about 1995, may have been a few workings after that. There was actually a survey a few years ago to look at re-opening, but a lot of the track is in poor condition, particularly down towards the Mollington Street area, and its been left to get in a very overgrown state. Pity really, it would make a good " Heritage" branch! would be good to see some vintage diesel locos cruising down there.

Hi,

can anyone shed some light on what this restriction means? (Maybe Beast 66606- as you have expert knowledge of this area) I have heard that the Birkenhead Docks Branch from Rock Ferry is held under a T3 restriction, and will not be opened, until such time that this is lifted.

Dene

beast

send me your email addy, and i'll mail them to you

Hi Dean

 

Only just picked up on this post, I would love to see the trackplan you have there, I spent my teenage years in Little Sutton so was spotting around this area in the early - mid eighties, always interested in anything relating to the railways around the area, especially trackplans and other operational info.

 

Here's a photo from Flickr of a 40 & 25 stabled (on ballast wagons) at Hooton in 1983, could these be the sidings you are asking about?

 

https://flic.kr/p/aa3rRN

 

Another Flickr photo, this time from the 70's and a view from Hooton South Box:

 

https://flic.kr/p/dJa2XD

 

From 1986 another view, looks like the old Helsby bay has been lifted and now part of the car park but still some sidings in the background:

 

https://flic.kr/p/dJa2iX

Hi Mate,

Send me your email addy, and i'll mail them to you

Hi Dean

 

Only just picked up on this post, I would love to see the trackplan you have there, I spent my teenage years in Little Sutton so was spotting around this area in the early - mid eighties, always interested in anything relating to the railways around the area, especially trackplans and other operational info.

 

Here's a photo from Flickr of a 40 & 25 stabled (on ballast wagons) at Hooton in 1983, could these be the sidings you are asking about?

 

https://flic.kr/p/aa3rRN

 

Another Flickr photo, this time from the 70's and a view from Hooton South Box:

 

https://flic.kr/p/dJa2XD

 

From 1986 another view, looks like the old Helsby bay has been lifted and now part of the car park but still some sidings in the background:

 

https://flic.kr/p/dJa2iX

I'll have to convert them, as I can't upload Tif files!

There's one other oddity on here I spotted- any idea what the "girders" in between the running lines on the pic are for?

just a quickie,

Saw a photo on here of a dismantled sidings in between the Chester and Helsby lines. I have found out it was a ballast siding- does anyone know when was this feature removed?

I have also sourced 2 drawings of the track layout from the NRM- I will post them if anyone is interested. This shows that there were 2 or 3 sidings on the other side of the "slow" lines, running towards Heath lane. I am unsure when these were lifted- possibly when the line to West Kirby were removed?

Dean

Great layout!

the split-headcode 40 looks amazing, as does the '47

loved to see these going through my local station, Hooton, on the run down to Birkenhead!

How come  a post can have 120 views, but no replies? I have put 2 posts on here now, and people have viewed, but not replied- does anyone else have this problem?

Hi Jeremy

, I'm relatively new to the railways of the Cornish area, I am based up on Merseyside, where most of the local railways were decimated with the decline of local Docks traffic. Th Cornish area has always fascinated me, and I am doing a bit of research into a Cornish layout (post- Beeching) I am hoping to sift through a few layouts to see which would be most suitable.Is there one available for Par?Any help you can tender would be much appreciated. I am looking towards the 70's era.

Thanks, Dean

Thanks, Deb!

Does anyone have any info on this station before re-modelling? Did the original platforms go as far as the stone bridge? What did the track layout look like? Any answers gratefully the received!